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#5700008 Posted on: 08/14/2019 03:20 PM
Why no page
Why no page
Product PCB and component overview?o_O
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#5700009 Posted on: 08/14/2019 03:23 PM
Why no page
Have not had the time for it just yet, but it will be added later.
Why no page
Product PCB and component overview?o_O
Have not had the time for it just yet, but it will be added later.
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#5700011 Posted on: 08/14/2019 03:24 PM
Okay
Have not had the time for it just yet, but it will be added later.
Okay
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#5700015 Posted on: 08/14/2019 03:31 PM
Very nice design. But most cases are either black or grey, so the color is hard to match.
Performance is not much better than the reference design, but I think the card won't carry a huge price premium.
I've seen somewhere on the web that the card uses a PCB that's pretty similar to the stock one, but has better capacitors.
Very nice design. But most cases are either black or grey, so the color is hard to match.
Performance is not much better than the reference design, but I think the card won't carry a huge price premium.
I've seen somewhere on the web that the card uses a PCB that's pretty similar to the stock one, but has better capacitors.
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#5700046 Posted on: 08/14/2019 04:50 PM
Gah! Seemed like such a nice card based on other reviews which did not cover noise as a major issue, but this review made me cancel my purchase (expected delivery Friday).
What I cant quite grasp, is that the new "Silent " BIOS only decreased noise levels to 53db, but there still seem to be alot of thermal headroom to decrease the fanspeed more than to 2000 RPM? Could you please do a test with custom fan curve at ~1700 RPM with stresstest to see load temp and acoustics? That would significantly improve the thoroughness of this otherwise great (but dissapointing) review.
Pretty please?
Gah! Seemed like such a nice card based on other reviews which did not cover noise as a major issue, but this review made me cancel my purchase (expected delivery Friday).
What I cant quite grasp, is that the new "Silent " BIOS only decreased noise levels to 53db, but there still seem to be alot of thermal headroom to decrease the fanspeed more than to 2000 RPM? Could you please do a test with custom fan curve at ~1700 RPM with stresstest to see load temp and acoustics? That would significantly improve the thoroughness of this otherwise great (but dissapointing) review.
Pretty please?
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#5700053 Posted on: 08/14/2019 05:21 PM
Gah! Seemed like such a nice card based on other reviews which did not cover noise as a major issue, but this review made me cancel my purchase (expected delivery Friday).
What I cant quite grasp, is that the new "Silent " BIOS only decreased noise levels to 53db, but there still seem to be alot of thermal headroom to decrease the fanspeed more than to 2000 RPM? Could you please do a test with custom fan curve at ~1700 RPM with stresstest to see load temp and acoustics? That would significantly improve the thoroughness of this otherwise great (but dissapointing) review.
Pretty please?
Let me correct you there, it's not 53 DBa is 43 DBa, so that is a notch above the noise level your PC (in general) generates. But yes it is moderately audible with the 'silent' BIOS and just as loud as reference cards based on the default shipping BIOS.
As to your request, currently, there is a bug in the AMD drivers. Setting a fixed fan speed resulted in random results: for example, if we set 40%, the fans can run towards 55%. Until that is addressed there is no objective manner to test manually fixed RPM settings. AMD is aware of this though.
Gah! Seemed like such a nice card based on other reviews which did not cover noise as a major issue, but this review made me cancel my purchase (expected delivery Friday).
What I cant quite grasp, is that the new "Silent " BIOS only decreased noise levels to 53db, but there still seem to be alot of thermal headroom to decrease the fanspeed more than to 2000 RPM? Could you please do a test with custom fan curve at ~1700 RPM with stresstest to see load temp and acoustics? That would significantly improve the thoroughness of this otherwise great (but dissapointing) review.
Pretty please?
Let me correct you there, it's not 53 DBa is 43 DBa, so that is a notch above the noise level your PC (in general) generates. But yes it is moderately audible with the 'silent' BIOS and just as loud as reference cards based on the default shipping BIOS.
As to your request, currently, there is a bug in the AMD drivers. Setting a fixed fan speed resulted in random results: for example, if we set 40%, the fans can run towards 55%. Until that is addressed there is no objective manner to test manually fixed RPM settings. AMD is aware of this though.
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#5700056 Posted on: 08/14/2019 05:30 PM
I love the look of this card minus the color. I think maybe a gunmetal gray color would look really neat and blend in nicer for most builds.
I love the look of this card minus the color. I think maybe a gunmetal gray color would look really neat and blend in nicer for most builds.
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#5700063 Posted on: 08/14/2019 05:42 PM
Let me correct you there, it's not 53 DBa is 43 DBa, so that is a notch above the noise level your PC (in general) generates. But yes it is moderately audible with the 'silent' BIOS and just as loud as reference cards based on the default shipping BIOS.
As to your request, currently, there is a bug in the AMD drivers. Setting a fixed fan speed resulted in random results: for example, if we set 40%, the fans can run towards 55%. Until that is addressed there is no objective manner to test manually fixed RPM settings. AMD is aware of this though.
Hey and thanks for a quick response! Granted its not 50 DBa but its close to the reference design which is being trashed for it's noise levels. Apart from throttling my main goal my main goal is reducing db as much as possible so I'm very intrigued by MSI's balancing act here, cudos for them realising a "silent mode" but its still nowhear near silent while still having very low temp levels. I currently sit on a GTX 670 which is quoted to have ~42db noise levels and one of my objectives for a new PC is a quiet one. So unless they can release another bios update with lower RPMs or AMD fixes the fixed RPM-settings within the next 7 days, I will probably go with another card.
Awesome OC though, well done. What were the thermals while overclocked?
Let me correct you there, it's not 53 DBa is 43 DBa, so that is a notch above the noise level your PC (in general) generates. But yes it is moderately audible with the 'silent' BIOS and just as loud as reference cards based on the default shipping BIOS.
As to your request, currently, there is a bug in the AMD drivers. Setting a fixed fan speed resulted in random results: for example, if we set 40%, the fans can run towards 55%. Until that is addressed there is no objective manner to test manually fixed RPM settings. AMD is aware of this though.
Hey and thanks for a quick response! Granted its not 50 DBa but its close to the reference design which is being trashed for it's noise levels. Apart from throttling my main goal my main goal is reducing db as much as possible so I'm very intrigued by MSI's balancing act here, cudos for them realising a "silent mode" but its still nowhear near silent while still having very low temp levels. I currently sit on a GTX 670 which is quoted to have ~42db noise levels and one of my objectives for a new PC is a quiet one. So unless they can release another bios update with lower RPMs or AMD fixes the fixed RPM-settings within the next 7 days, I will probably go with another card.
Awesome OC though, well done. What were the thermals while overclocked?
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#5700065 Posted on: 08/14/2019 05:47 PM
Not that far off actually due to the high RPM applied already. If you like to stick to MSI, there will be a Gaming X model as well and that one will address acoustics the way you expect them to be.
What were the thermals while overclocked?
Not that far off actually due to the high RPM applied already. If you like to stick to MSI, there will be a Gaming X model as well and that one will address acoustics the way you expect them to be.
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#5700095 Posted on: 08/14/2019 07:08 PM
Goldfinger would have got a boner just by looking at this card...
If you want something comparable with the asus strix version then you should wait for the gaming X version. It will be a three fans low noise and even better cooled than this version.
According to the IPC channel the price for this will be 13990 Taiwan dollars (yuans) so approximately 445 USD.
Goldfinger would have got a boner just by looking at this card...
If you want something comparable with the asus strix version then you should wait for the gaming X version. It will be a three fans low noise and even better cooled than this version.
According to the IPC channel the price for this will be 13990 Taiwan dollars (yuans) so approximately 445 USD.
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#5700105 Posted on: 08/14/2019 07:35 PM
I'd expect MSI doing better...
I'd expect MSI doing better...
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#5700121 Posted on: 08/14/2019 08:11 PM
What's the point of an after market cooler that runs as loud as the crappy reference blower?
Temps are good, so there's probably some headroom to play with, but still...
What's the point of an after market cooler that runs as loud as the crappy reference blower?
Temps are good, so there's probably some headroom to play with, but still...
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#5700137 Posted on: 08/14/2019 09:07 PM
So visually, the card's aesthetics are subjective of course but for me, unappealing. Aurally, the acoustics of the card are objectively... bad. So MSI kind of dropped the ball on this card...And there's no dent to blame either...
This is not to say that it isn't a capable card, far from it, it performs well but it's just not doing what you'd expect from an AIB card very well.
So visually, the card's aesthetics are subjective of course but for me, unappealing. Aurally, the acoustics of the card are objectively... bad. So MSI kind of dropped the ball on this card...And there's no dent to blame either...
This is not to say that it isn't a capable card, far from it, it performs well but it's just not doing what you'd expect from an AIB card very well.
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#5700276 Posted on: 08/15/2019 08:18 AM
Let me correct you there, it's not 53 DBa is 43 DBa, so that is a notch above the noise level your PC (in general) generates. But yes it is moderately audible with the 'silent' BIOS and just as loud as reference cards based on the default shipping BIOS.
As to your request, currently, there is a bug in the AMD drivers. Setting a fixed fan speed resulted in random results: for example, if we set 40%, the fans can run towards 55%. Until that is addressed there is no objective manner to test manually fixed RPM settings. AMD is aware of this though.
Well, performance to noise to temperature seems only marginally better than reference. Strix came out better.
But I have feeling that all of 5700 XT will have very similar performance. That's probably because they do not want to go way above TBP. But those that can cool better at lower noise level can at least be comfortably overclocked even via Wattman.
Let me correct you there, it's not 53 DBa is 43 DBa, so that is a notch above the noise level your PC (in general) generates. But yes it is moderately audible with the 'silent' BIOS and just as loud as reference cards based on the default shipping BIOS.
As to your request, currently, there is a bug in the AMD drivers. Setting a fixed fan speed resulted in random results: for example, if we set 40%, the fans can run towards 55%. Until that is addressed there is no objective manner to test manually fixed RPM settings. AMD is aware of this though.
Well, performance to noise to temperature seems only marginally better than reference. Strix came out better.
But I have feeling that all of 5700 XT will have very similar performance. That's probably because they do not want to go way above TBP. But those that can cool better at lower noise level can at least be comfortably overclocked even via Wattman.
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First I read "(pardon the pun)" and I instantly was hoping for an Ewok joke there...
Great review as always, thanks @Hilbert Hagedoorn . And yes, no RGB...