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#5708213 Posted on: 09/05/2019 01:27 PM
you don't get it do you? it's so hard to keep up with you guys sometimes.
the complaints are valid, the 2070S is what the original 2070 was supposed to be and its price was expected to match that of the 1070 on launch. Nvidia decided to standardize new prices since there's no competent competition in the market and because they can.
our hopes that Intel and AMD, with time, will turn the table on Nvidia.
so 2070 super are a 1080Ti+ for cheaper than what the 1080Ti was back then ? and people complain all the time :p
you don't get it do you? it's so hard to keep up with you guys sometimes.
the complaints are valid, the 2070S is what the original 2070 was supposed to be and its price was expected to match that of the 1070 on launch. Nvidia decided to standardize new prices since there's no competent competition in the market and because they can.
our hopes that Intel and AMD, with time, will turn the table on Nvidia.
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#5708232 Posted on: 09/05/2019 02:10 PM
so 2070 super are a 1080Ti+ for cheaper than what the 1080Ti was back then ? and people complain all the time :p
nice review as always guru3d my go to for clear and efficient reviews
And you would be extatic to pay 650$ for 3070 when they come out right because it will likely be faster than a 2080 right? And so on.
so 2070 super are a 1080Ti+ for cheaper than what the 1080Ti was back then ? and people complain all the time :p
nice review as always guru3d my go to for clear and efficient reviews
And you would be extatic to pay 650$ for 3070 when they come out right because it will likely be faster than a 2080 right? And so on.
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#5708239 Posted on: 09/05/2019 02:37 PM
These cards aren't meant for people who have a 1080ti. This has always been the case going from a older gen to the next step up.
And you would be extatic to pay 650$ for 3070 when they come out right because it will likely be faster than a 2080 right? And so on.
These cards aren't meant for people who have a 1080ti. This has always been the case going from a older gen to the next step up.
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#5708240 Posted on: 09/05/2019 02:38 PM
I really like MSI's fan designs with the Turing cards.
I really like MSI's fan designs with the Turing cards.
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#5708246 Posted on: 09/05/2019 02:52 PM
Fast and good looking card but 550Eur is really steep price. Not worth it.
Fast and good looking card but 550Eur is really steep price. Not worth it.
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#5708253 Posted on: 09/05/2019 03:10 PM
I noticed 5700xt is really fast here often beating out 1080ti. I have look quite alot of benchmark in youtube and 5700xt not really that fast. Am i missing something?
I noticed 5700xt is really fast here often beating out 1080ti. I have look quite alot of benchmark in youtube and 5700xt not really that fast. Am i missing something?
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#5708256 Posted on: 09/05/2019 03:21 PM
another great job HH.
this (rtx2070S) is a proper xx70. the performance is (imho) out-of-the-ballpark as it smokes the 1080ti (adding in power efficiency) and costs far less.
Nvidia lately has had the bad habit of leading with their chin, instead of with proper products properly priced. thanks to the rivalry with AMD, Nvidia is showing their worth at reasonable (i.e. NOT rtx 2080ti) prices.
another great job HH.
this (rtx2070S) is a proper xx70. the performance is (imho) out-of-the-ballpark as it smokes the 1080ti (adding in power efficiency) and costs far less.
Nvidia lately has had the bad habit of leading with their chin, instead of with proper products properly priced. thanks to the rivalry with AMD, Nvidia is showing their worth at reasonable (i.e. NOT rtx 2080ti) prices.
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#5708273 Posted on: 09/05/2019 04:16 PM
sorry if I was misunderstood I meant "for people who wanted a 1080Ti but couldn't buy one then the 2070 super is the 2019 version of it"
didn't mean that releasing it after the 2070 was fine nor that it was cheap
just that in 2019 you can get a 1080ti perf for less money than when I bought my 1080Ti and that is a good thing for someone who wants to play in 1080p
two nice videos from a channel I recommend to compare videocards
it's not the MSI card but gives you an idea about 2070 super performance
if anyone is interested he is using MSI afterburner+rivatuner for that GUI, you have to do a bit of configuration to have a nice layout
the lower graph is frametime, the spikes usually mean stutter or screen freeze, it's not really a problem in recent videocards but when you combo a tough game like Metro with an older gpu + high resolution frametimes can become really bad
sorry if I was misunderstood I meant "for people who wanted a 1080Ti but couldn't buy one then the 2070 super is the 2019 version of it"
didn't mean that releasing it after the 2070 was fine nor that it was cheap
just that in 2019 you can get a 1080ti perf for less money than when I bought my 1080Ti and that is a good thing for someone who wants to play in 1080p
two nice videos from a channel I recommend to compare videocards
it's not the MSI card but gives you an idea about 2070 super performance
if anyone is interested he is using MSI afterburner+rivatuner for that GUI, you have to do a bit of configuration to have a nice layout
the lower graph is frametime, the spikes usually mean stutter or screen freeze, it's not really a problem in recent videocards but when you combo a tough game like Metro with an older gpu + high resolution frametimes can become really bad
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#5708282 Posted on: 09/05/2019 04:52 PM
Great review Hilbert!
naming scheme is crazy with nvidia graphics cards now...we used to have ti version of xxxx card and it preformed in between the next number and the said card...Now we have a Super card that performs better than the higher numbered card.
ie: Gtx 2060 super vs Gtx 2070 ....
Great review Hilbert!
naming scheme is crazy with nvidia graphics cards now...we used to have ti version of xxxx card and it preformed in between the next number and the said card...Now we have a Super card that performs better than the higher numbered card.
ie: Gtx 2060 super vs Gtx 2070 ....
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#5708647 Posted on: 09/06/2019 06:09 PM
I'm just thinking about the performance of this card (cost-wise compared to my 1070 ti price @ the time i bought it)...
This card is really the right one (performance v/s cost)
I feel sorry for myself.....when new card like this appears
I'm just thinking about the performance of this card (cost-wise compared to my 1070 ti price @ the time i bought it)...
This card is really the right one (performance v/s cost)
I feel sorry for myself.....when new card like this appears
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#5708805 Posted on: 09/07/2019 07:36 AM
GPUs are so expensive and slow relatively to price. When the prices will go down? It is boring to just wait and wait, but either you give up and pay the cost or they give up and lower the price. I do not want to pay 500 euros this time for a decent upgrade (from GTX 1070), I want to pay less and I will not pay anything before I get more with less money.
GPUs are so expensive and slow relatively to price. When the prices will go down? It is boring to just wait and wait, but either you give up and pay the cost or they give up and lower the price. I do not want to pay 500 euros this time for a decent upgrade (from GTX 1070), I want to pay less and I will not pay anything before I get more with less money.
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#5708822 Posted on: 09/07/2019 10:11 AM
Yeah I miss the days when you could get a good performing mid-range card for $250 and a high end card for $350-$400. $1200 for a 2080 Ti is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.
GPUs are so expensive and slow relatively to price. When the prices will go down? It is boring to just wait and wait, but either you give up and pay the cost or they give up and lower the price. I do not want to pay 500 euros this time for a decent upgrade (from GTX 1070), I want to pay less and I will not pay anything before I get more with less money.
Yeah I miss the days when you could get a good performing mid-range card for $250 and a high end card for $350-$400. $1200 for a 2080 Ti is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.
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#5708868 Posted on: 09/07/2019 02:21 PM
Im just glad my 2nd hand OCed gtx970 still holds. I play 60fps 1920x1200p and it works nicely. Take metro exodus.. I Had 60fps on High with teselation disabled and grass shadows disabled. It looked kick ass. Basically, it can play games just nicely, so I can wait. Im not the type of person who gets depressed when "all sliders are not to the right" ... maybe because Ive starter on ZXspectrum+ so I aim for gameplay mostly. If its smooth, and doesnt look downright ugly, Im cool with that. Saved me few 1000s of USD
Im just glad my 2nd hand OCed gtx970 still holds. I play 60fps 1920x1200p and it works nicely. Take metro exodus.. I Had 60fps on High with teselation disabled and grass shadows disabled. It looked kick ass. Basically, it can play games just nicely, so I can wait. Im not the type of person who gets depressed when "all sliders are not to the right" ... maybe because Ive starter on ZXspectrum+ so I aim for gameplay mostly. If its smooth, and doesnt look downright ugly, Im cool with that. Saved me few 1000s of USD
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#5708870 Posted on: 09/07/2019 02:29 PM
Try playing Control on a gtx970, it would be surprising if it runs more than 30fps medium settings. Quite a few games already can push cards like 2070S even on 1080p.
Im just glad my 2nd hand OCed gtx970 still holds. I play 60fps 1920x1200p and it works nicely. Take metro exodus.. I Had 60fps on High with teselation disabled and grass shadows disabled. It looked kick ass. Basically, it can play games just nicely, so I can wait. Im not the type of person who gets depressed when "all sliders are not to the right" ... maybe because Ive starter on ZXspectrum+ so I aim for gameplay mostly. If its smooth, and doesnt look downright ugly, Im cool with that. Saved me few 1000s of USD
Try playing Control on a gtx970, it would be surprising if it runs more than 30fps medium settings. Quite a few games already can push cards like 2070S even on 1080p.
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so 2070 super are a 1080Ti+ for cheaper than what the 1080Ti was back then ? and people complain all the time
nice review as always guru3d my go to for clear and efficient reviews