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Review: MSI GeForce GTX 1650 Gaming X
MSI is back, this round with the GeForce GTX 1650 Gaming X edition of the GeForce GTX 1650. Designed to be a budget-friendly product MSI still did mount a pretty impressive cooler, a Twinfrozr revision 7 one with dual-fans and it's overclocked right out of the box for you as well.
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#5663020 Posted on: 04/24/2019 04:04 PM
For the prices you name, you could buy an RX-570/580 with a 256-bit bus which is Crossfire/D3d12 Multi-GPU capable that will run rings around it. There is no contest. This 1650 belongs firmly in the sub-$100 pricing range. If there is a 1650ti and it has a 128-bit bus, too--it will just be a total waste. nVidia doesn't seem interested in selling many of these.
Too much money for this performance.The 1650 should be $120-$145 and the upcoming 1650ti should occupy this price range.
For the prices you name, you could buy an RX-570/580 with a 256-bit bus which is Crossfire/D3d12 Multi-GPU capable that will run rings around it. There is no contest. This 1650 belongs firmly in the sub-$100 pricing range. If there is a 1650ti and it has a 128-bit bus, too--it will just be a total waste. nVidia doesn't seem interested in selling many of these.
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#5663037 Posted on: 04/24/2019 04:35 PM
Multi GPU is dead.
For the prices you name, you could buy an RX-570/580 with a 256-bit bus which is Crossfire/D3d12 Multi-GPU capable that will run rings around it. There is no contest. This 1650 belongs firmly in the sub-$100 pricing range. If there is a 1650ti and it has a 128-bit bus, too--it will just be a total waste. nVidia doesn't seem interested in selling many of these.
Multi GPU is dead.
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#5663046 Posted on: 04/24/2019 04:55 PM
I'll take word of someone who actually uses it. I considered it as thing of the past, but there are really not that many games which need it and have no support.
I would say that SLI/CF is currently at breaking point and things can go either way.
Multi GPU is dead.
I'll take word of someone who actually uses it. I considered it as thing of the past, but there are really not that many games which need it and have no support.
I would say that SLI/CF is currently at breaking point and things can go either way.
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#5663057 Posted on: 04/24/2019 05:22 PM
I'll take word of someone who actually uses it. I considered it as thing of the past, but there are really not that many games which need it and have no support.
I would say that SLI/CF is currently at breaking point and things can go either way.
So you wont take the word of an ex-user? There is a reason I don't use SLI of CF anymore. Plus with DX12 the lazy ass dev's have to make it work.
I'll take word of someone who actually uses it. I considered it as thing of the past, but there are really not that many games which need it and have no support.
I would say that SLI/CF is currently at breaking point and things can go either way.
So you wont take the word of an ex-user? There is a reason I don't use SLI of CF anymore. Plus with DX12 the lazy ass dev's have to make it work.
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#5663089 Posted on: 04/24/2019 06:48 PM
That's why it is in technological limbo. It is not dead as long as drivers support it. And you never know if there will be some smart brain enabling DX12 to do multi-GPU easily.
So you wont take the word of an ex-user? There is a reason I don't use SLI of CF anymore. Plus with DX12 the lazy ass dev's have to make it work.
That's why it is in technological limbo. It is not dead as long as drivers support it. And you never know if there will be some smart brain enabling DX12 to do multi-GPU easily.
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#5663090 Posted on: 04/24/2019 06:49 PM
Yikes, this card shouldn't be more than $100 dollars. Yet it's still gonna sell good due to Nvidia's naming scheme.
Yikes, this card shouldn't be more than $100 dollars. Yet it's still gonna sell good due to Nvidia's naming scheme.
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#5663095 Posted on: 04/24/2019 06:59 PM
ROFL what ever dude. Still only a very few games I have dont run crossfire or sli. I have hundreds of games. And Shadow of the Tomb Raider sure as hell shows DX12 MGPU can be done very well.
Multi GPU is dead.
ROFL what ever dude. Still only a very few games I have dont run crossfire or sli. I have hundreds of games. And Shadow of the Tomb Raider sure as hell shows DX12 MGPU can be done very well.
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#5663102 Posted on: 04/24/2019 07:27 PM
While Async in DX12 is cool, not everyone is onboard this trend as well. I mean if I had 2 2070's in my rig, that would look awesome lol. But I can't afford 2 2070's, and if I could I'd just rather buy a 2080 ti and have less hardware to worry about.
ROFL what ever dude. Still only a very few games I have dont run crossfire or sli. I have hundreds of games. And Shadow of the Tomb Raider sure as hell shows DX12 MGPU can be done very well.
While Async in DX12 is cool, not everyone is onboard this trend as well. I mean if I had 2 2070's in my rig, that would look awesome lol. But I can't afford 2 2070's, and if I could I'd just rather buy a 2080 ti and have less hardware to worry about.
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#5663125 Posted on: 04/24/2019 08:55 PM
I went the mGPU route once, and although I didn't find it anywhere near as painful as other people made it out to be (it wasn't hard to force-enable it on games that didn't support it, without any major negative side effects) it isn't something I think I'll ever bother doing again. This is mostly because I've gone mini ITX + Linux, but even if I didn't, I also found the performance gains weren't substantial enough.
Ironically, mGPU is a dying (but not dead) trend, even though Vulkan and DX12 seem to have been built with mGPU setups in mind.
I went the mGPU route once, and although I didn't find it anywhere near as painful as other people made it out to be (it wasn't hard to force-enable it on games that didn't support it, without any major negative side effects) it isn't something I think I'll ever bother doing again. This is mostly because I've gone mini ITX + Linux, but even if I didn't, I also found the performance gains weren't substantial enough.
Ironically, mGPU is a dying (but not dead) trend, even though Vulkan and DX12 seem to have been built with mGPU setups in mind.
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#5663147 Posted on: 04/24/2019 10:10 PM
I went the mGPU route once, and although I didn't find it anywhere near as painful as other people made it out to be (it wasn't hard to force-enable it on games that didn't support it, without any major negative side effects) it isn't something I think I'll ever bother doing again. This is mostly because I've gone mini ITX + Linux, but even if I didn't, I also found the performance gains weren't substantial enough.
Ironically, mGPU is a dying (but not dead) trend, even though Vulkan and DX12 seem to have been built with mGPU setups in mind.
Same i did Mgpu back with 2x 7970's and although when it worked it was great, there came other issues with it too, though it wasn't end of the world.... then again it cost me a grand to do that, now i can't even get a 2080ti for a grand xD so.... different time and world i guess, still i'm happy with a single gpu, better for heat management and running new and old games without much fear of random crashes/bugs/stutters etc...
I don't know if it's dead, that scene doesn't bother me anymore beyond the ooooo FPS numbers
I went the mGPU route once, and although I didn't find it anywhere near as painful as other people made it out to be (it wasn't hard to force-enable it on games that didn't support it, without any major negative side effects) it isn't something I think I'll ever bother doing again. This is mostly because I've gone mini ITX + Linux, but even if I didn't, I also found the performance gains weren't substantial enough.
Ironically, mGPU is a dying (but not dead) trend, even though Vulkan and DX12 seem to have been built with mGPU setups in mind.
Same i did Mgpu back with 2x 7970's and although when it worked it was great, there came other issues with it too, though it wasn't end of the world.... then again it cost me a grand to do that, now i can't even get a 2080ti for a grand xD so.... different time and world i guess, still i'm happy with a single gpu, better for heat management and running new and old games without much fear of random crashes/bugs/stutters etc...
I don't know if it's dead, that scene doesn't bother me anymore beyond the ooooo FPS numbers
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#5663156 Posted on: 04/24/2019 10:44 PM
Well I bought 2 RX 480 nitros for $200 both shipped. Flashed RX 580 nitro bios on them and they fly. I had 290x crossfire back before I got my Fury X, and that was a great experience. So was my HD 7850 crossfire, HD 7950s as well.
Im playing @ 2560x1080 80hz with freesync. So for games that dont have xfire support, its ok because this card still can push these games from 45-60fps on high/very high settings in brand new games.
Ive always had fun with multi gpu systems. They are fun. If you buy multigpu systems and your rig is worthless on 1 card, your doing it wrong.
While Async in DX12 is cool, not everyone is onboard this trend as well. I mean if I had 2 2070's in my rig, that would look awesome lol. But I can't afford 2 2070's, and if I could I'd just rather buy a 2080 ti and have less hardware to worry about.
Well I bought 2 RX 480 nitros for $200 both shipped. Flashed RX 580 nitro bios on them and they fly. I had 290x crossfire back before I got my Fury X, and that was a great experience. So was my HD 7850 crossfire, HD 7950s as well.
Im playing @ 2560x1080 80hz with freesync. So for games that dont have xfire support, its ok because this card still can push these games from 45-60fps on high/very high settings in brand new games.
Ive always had fun with multi gpu systems. They are fun. If you buy multigpu systems and your rig is worthless on 1 card, your doing it wrong.
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#5663167 Posted on: 04/25/2019 12:07 AM
i have been using multigpu and single gpus depending on periods where my multi gpu system were with voodoo2, geforce 6600, geforce 260, geforce 275, geforce 480, geforce 770. Then i stopped to a single 1080ti.
When cards were cheaper buyin 2 midrange and make sli made sense, since you would buy a sub 300eur card, wait for price to drop to 180eur and upgrade. While now this do not happen anymore and sli advantages are less.
If you had the money for the top range card at day 1, sli was never a good idea.
Sli was enabling you 3 monitor setups when single card couldn't.
I do not think is dead but is not anymore as useful as before.
i have been using multigpu and single gpus depending on periods where my multi gpu system were with voodoo2, geforce 6600, geforce 260, geforce 275, geforce 480, geforce 770. Then i stopped to a single 1080ti.
When cards were cheaper buyin 2 midrange and make sli made sense, since you would buy a sub 300eur card, wait for price to drop to 180eur and upgrade. While now this do not happen anymore and sli advantages are less.
If you had the money for the top range card at day 1, sli was never a good idea.
Sli was enabling you 3 monitor setups when single card couldn't.
I do not think is dead but is not anymore as useful as before.
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#5663499 Posted on: 04/25/2019 09:06 PM
Strange Brigade Benchmark
GPU Name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
API: D3D12
Render Width: 1920
Render Height: 1080
Average FPS: 184.3
Minimum FPS: 82.0
Maximum FPS: 263.6
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti OC
Average FPS: 187.0
Minimum FPS: 83.1
Maximum FPS: 274.5
Strange Brigade Benchmark
GPU Name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
API: D3D12
Render Width: 1920
Render Height: 1080
Average FPS: 184.3
Minimum FPS: 82.0
Maximum FPS: 263.6
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti OC
Average FPS: 187.0
Minimum FPS: 83.1
Maximum FPS: 274.5
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#5663752 Posted on: 04/26/2019 06:15 PM
This card shouldn't even exist. Period.
This card shouldn't even exist. Period.
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Too much money for this performance.The 1650 should be $120-$145 and the upcoming 1650ti should occupy this price range.