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#6132503 Posted on: 05/16/2023 04:07 PM
Over-spec'd beyond need, but I like it.
Over-spec'd beyond need, but I like it.
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#6132561 Posted on: 05/16/2023 07:29 PM
Looks like a decent mouse but I'm still very happy with my Logitech G903, been going for years, replaced the switches a few months back with ones off amazon and it's like a new mouse again.
the fact that I can repair it myself if anything goes wrong is a big deal for me and saves on e-waste.
Looks like a decent mouse but I'm still very happy with my Logitech G903, been going for years, replaced the switches a few months back with ones off amazon and it's like a new mouse again.
the fact that I can repair it myself if anything goes wrong is a big deal for me and saves on e-waste.
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#6132620 Posted on: 05/17/2023 03:37 AM
Rated at 80 million clicks per button... I fell foul to this kind of advertising with almost every single mouse I bought except those with optical switches.
But optical switches have a lag, strangely a lot worse on Logitech than a much much cheaper Redragon mouse which is actually pretty decent!
The feel of the lag on optical switches might be amplified by the difference between the click of the button and the time its action is registered because they dont happen at the exact same time. Nevertheless, Logitechs latest and very expensive flagship wireless mouse, the G502 X Plus, has significantly worse button feel than the wired G502 Hero because of this and larger travel.
Engineering today is good enough to eliminate these kind of issues which makes me wonder why its so bad on the G502 X Plus?
Back to olde school button problems:
My brother has an original G502 Hero mouse thats a lot older than mine and has a lot better switches.
He has never had double click problems despite the mouse being used heavily every day.
My years newer version, after 1.5 yrs has been dreadful, requiring serious button hammering for a few minutes every week or so to stop both losing contact on drag pulls and double clicking.
My question is, can the 80,000,000 button presses advertised be trusted?
I havent seen a common trusted standard for mouse clicks that will allow me to have confidence.
Its about time we had one!
/rant
Rated at 80 million clicks per button... I fell foul to this kind of advertising with almost every single mouse I bought except those with optical switches.
But optical switches have a lag, strangely a lot worse on Logitech than a much much cheaper Redragon mouse which is actually pretty decent!
The feel of the lag on optical switches might be amplified by the difference between the click of the button and the time its action is registered because they dont happen at the exact same time. Nevertheless, Logitechs latest and very expensive flagship wireless mouse, the G502 X Plus, has significantly worse button feel than the wired G502 Hero because of this and larger travel.
Engineering today is good enough to eliminate these kind of issues which makes me wonder why its so bad on the G502 X Plus?
Back to olde school button problems:
My brother has an original G502 Hero mouse thats a lot older than mine and has a lot better switches.
He has never had double click problems despite the mouse being used heavily every day.
My years newer version, after 1.5 yrs has been dreadful, requiring serious button hammering for a few minutes every week or so to stop both losing contact on drag pulls and double clicking.
My question is, can the 80,000,000 button presses advertised be trusted?
I havent seen a common trusted standard for mouse clicks that will allow me to have confidence.
Its about time we had one!
/rant
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#6132627 Posted on: 05/17/2023 05:18 AM
My opinion...
3370 sensor - No issues, but at that price I'd expect a 3390.
Kailh 8.0 switches - If you're not using optical I think these are a fine choice, they're what I use/prefer.
Looks - It's as if they didn't know what they wanted to make, at least it doesn't go for some wacky look.
Weight - WTF?? 110g with weight options? Is this 1999 again?
As for anything else, I'd have to try it myself, but just the weight alone would be enough to scare me off... even if it was a compelling package as a whole, which it's not.
The switches which fail super easily are Chinese Omron 50 mil and 20 mil switches, particularly the 50 mil ones. I desoldered the Omron 20s in my GPX and installed Kailh 8.0s because I had enough of that Omron trash failing on me within weeks. All G502 variants use the turbo trash Omron 50s, aside from the newest "light" one which uses optical switches.
Kailh 8.0 switches in my experience last many times longer than the Omron 50 mil switches which failed constantly for me (thanks Logi you cheap bastards).
My opinion...
3370 sensor - No issues, but at that price I'd expect a 3390.
Kailh 8.0 switches - If you're not using optical I think these are a fine choice, they're what I use/prefer.
Looks - It's as if they didn't know what they wanted to make, at least it doesn't go for some wacky look.
Weight - WTF?? 110g with weight options? Is this 1999 again?
As for anything else, I'd have to try it myself, but just the weight alone would be enough to scare me off... even if it was a compelling package as a whole, which it's not.
Rated at 80 million clicks per button... I fell foul to this kind of advertising with almost every single mouse I bought except those with optical switches.
The switches which fail super easily are Chinese Omron 50 mil and 20 mil switches, particularly the 50 mil ones. I desoldered the Omron 20s in my GPX and installed Kailh 8.0s because I had enough of that Omron trash failing on me within weeks. All G502 variants use the turbo trash Omron 50s, aside from the newest "light" one which uses optical switches.
Kailh 8.0 switches in my experience last many times longer than the Omron 50 mil switches which failed constantly for me (thanks Logi you cheap bastards).
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Ugly noname mouse.