Review: Intel Core i7 8700K processor

#5480890 Posted on: 10/12/2017 07:20 AM

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No it isn't. The guy is a conspiracy theorist and gaining popularity and views by just that, feeding off a bit of confusion and throwing in many arguments for confusion, and all of the sudden narrowing that down to an answer that sounds plausible. He's doing it in an intelligent way I'll give him that. The scores aren't because of the proc sample, trust me all procs are the same aside for asic quality vs tweaking. Nope, it's simply because of the motherboard firmware. We had access to Coffee Lake 3 weeks prior to the launch, over the course of two weeks our loaner sample saw multiple new mobo BIOSes released gradually increasing performance on most motherboards. If you check the reference review and compare it to the later MSI review for example, what do you notice?

Check here:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_z370_godlike_gaming_review,10.html

Same processor. It's the mobo manufacturers who tweak performance by fiddling with the Turbo bins. ASUS for example has a feature that 'optimizes' performance and enables it by default. Great stuff for the novice user, but not representable for stock reference proc results as they set the turbo bin to 4.7 GHz on all cores for the 8700k. The problem is that most reviewers do not even look at such settings to disable them (which I did for the reference proc review). Basically my 8700k results are spot on as to what the 8700k really is. We did update to 1400CB after some BIOS updates though. The rest of the performance differential is the result of motherboard manufacturers tweaking for best performance and best results as all motherboard manufacturers want to show that their board is the fastest in the reviews and thus enable that stuff as they do not want to be slower than the competition. It is as simple as that and has nothing to do with the procs, these are all the same including ES samples.

Just because Adored is talking and taking causality for granted doesn't mean it's right. Again, he is a conspiracy theorist, and while there's nothing wrong with that or him (love it how he pronounces Guru3D), it aint the facts, that's for sure.

#5480977 Posted on: 10/12/2017 12:15 PM

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^ heh heh.. that was about as refreshing a takedown of Adored's 'investigative' journalism as I've seen.

#5481004 Posted on: 10/12/2017 02:01 PM

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Yes, I think that was covered as well in the Adored video. Jay redid his tests in light of this to correct for this difference (). He said he also contacted Asus, who denied that MCE was on by default - so either Asus doesn't know how their own motherboards are configured or they are hiding the fact that their boards overclock out of the box.

You may not be a fan of Adored but he was right in pointing out the differences in scores (at least partially). He even got one of the reviewers to recognize their mistake and fix it in a subsequent review. I know that he speculates quite a bit and may come off as a bit of a kook but he actually got results here.

#5481021 Posted on: 10/12/2017 03:27 PM

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Yeah muticore enhancement is set to auto/enabled by default. Was the same with my asus z87 & haswell chip. Think its no different now.

#5481138 Posted on: 10/12/2017 08:47 PM

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Yes, I think that was covered as well in the Adored video. Jay redid his tests in light of this to correct for this difference (youtube]b0Oeme4V2bM). He said he also contacted Asus, who denied that MCE was on by default - so either Asus doesn't know how their own motherboards are configured or they are hiding the fact that their boards overclock out of the box.

The truth. Mixed with misinformations, half truths and cherry picked facts. Is the basic principle of unloading propaganda. Because only the most gullible and those who are already followers would trust 20 minutes of pure insanity, downright lies and speculations. Hence one needs to mix; see bellow:



You may not be a fan of Adored but he was right in pointing out the differences in scores (at least partially). He even got one of the reviewers to recognize their mistake and fix it in a subsequent review. I know that he speculates quite a bit and may come off as a bit of a kook but he actually got results here.

Whats there to be a fan of? The guy is the raving AMD fan with a gift of speech and lots of time on his hands. That fact alone should by default make anyone with half a brain doubtful about anything he says on the matter.