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Review: Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro - Fantastic Value at 119 USD
In this review, we check out the all-new Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro. The new B450 series chipset based board offer some more appealing value, as budget wise these board sell at a sub 125,- USD/EUR price point, and Gigabyte certainly chucked this board full with features. So much so that you cannot really look at it as a budget offering anymore.
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Review: MSI B450 Tomahawk - Value At 109 USD - 07/31/2018 02:01 PM
In this review we check some armory from MSI, the B450 Tomahawk, based on the new B450 chipset it is aimed at for Ryzen processors, and in specific the new Ryzen 2000 / Zen+. The new B450 series chi...
Review: Guru3D PC Buyers Guide Summer 2018 - 07/31/2018 01:38 PM
It's that time of the year again! Welcome, all to the (Late) Summer 2018 edition of Guru3D's PC Buyer's Guide. This article will show you PC builds at various price points that we - as a unit - fee...
Review: Netgear XR500 router, EX8000 Extender and SX10 (10 Gbit/s) Switch - 07/30/2018 09:16 AM
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Review: ADATA XPG SX8200 480GB M.2. SSD - 07/26/2018 05:31 AM
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Review: ASUS TUF X470 Plus-Gaming - 07/25/2018 04:05 AM
We review the ASUS TUF X470 Plus-Gaming, optimized for Ryzen 2000 / Zen+ on a motherboard with an ATX form factor. Alongside the release of Ryzen 5 2600X and Ryzen 7 2700X processors, AMD prepped the ...
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#5569916 Posted on: 07/31/2018 07:27 PM
Thanks for the review. I'm interested in a new motherboard. I'll think I'll pass on this one. I don't like the lack of a ps/2 port and I'd prefer an actual voltage setting versus an offset. Otherwise, this looks like a decent motherboard.
It's interesting to see the difference in maximum core # power readings at default versus overclocked. I've used your reviews to see how my readings differ compared to yours. My 1200 yields 11-12 watt core # power readings at 3.9 Ghz. I get a little jealous when I see the lower core # power readings on the higher binned cpus you often test.
Your gaming tests also seem to show differing performance regarding the size of the L3 cache. Ghost Recon Wildlands: 1920 X 1080 appears to show that the smaller L3 cache on the lower model ryzens is having a negative effect on the frame rate.
Once again, thanks for the review. I'll read the others soon.
Don't be, mine does eat 16W per core at peak clock.
To the board. Really like it. It is very well organized. And has everything MB in gaming/office/workstation/ ... PC needs.
Thanks for the review. I'm interested in a new motherboard. I'll think I'll pass on this one. I don't like the lack of a ps/2 port and I'd prefer an actual voltage setting versus an offset. Otherwise, this looks like a decent motherboard.
It's interesting to see the difference in maximum core # power readings at default versus overclocked. I've used your reviews to see how my readings differ compared to yours. My 1200 yields 11-12 watt core # power readings at 3.9 Ghz. I get a little jealous when I see the lower core # power readings on the higher binned cpus you often test.
Your gaming tests also seem to show differing performance regarding the size of the L3 cache. Ghost Recon Wildlands: 1920 X 1080 appears to show that the smaller L3 cache on the lower model ryzens is having a negative effect on the frame rate.
Once again, thanks for the review. I'll read the others soon.
Don't be, mine does eat 16W per core at peak clock.
To the board. Really like it. It is very well organized. And has everything MB in gaming/office/workstation/ ... PC needs.
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#5570064 Posted on: 08/01/2018 12:52 PM
For real test with some knowledge and enthusiasm added check:
Short summary: this board is garbage ... biggest mistake in article is number of phases. It does not use 11 VRM phases (8+3) but only 7 (4+3).
Fake VRM phases are explained here:
For real test with some knowledge and enthusiasm added check:
Short summary: this board is garbage ... biggest mistake in article is number of phases. It does not use 11 VRM phases (8+3) but only 7 (4+3).
Fake VRM phases are explained here:
Fox2232
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#5570069 Posted on: 08/01/2018 01:12 PM
For real test with some knowledge and enthusiasm added check:
Short summary: this board is garbage ... biggest mistake in article is number of phases. It does not use 11 VRM phases (8+3) but only 7 (4+3).
Fake VRM phases are explained here:
Sad. Higher heat => lower power efficiency, lower longevity.
For real test with some knowledge and enthusiasm added check:
Short summary: this board is garbage ... biggest mistake in article is number of phases. It does not use 11 VRM phases (8+3) but only 7 (4+3).
Fake VRM phases are explained here:
Sad. Higher heat => lower power efficiency, lower longevity.
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#5570073 Posted on: 08/01/2018 01:25 PM
No, it certainly isn't. The VRM hype simply is getting out of context, as hey people love to create viral clicks? The board has 4 phases to the CPU, and yes they are doubled up, doubling up still cools down the chokes and capacitors in use as they distribute the load evenly. Add to that the VRM cooling that gigabyte applied and have a peek at the thermal image in the review.
Even if you load up b450 with the fastest Ryzen (like we did) it'll function fine. Once you overclock extremely things could be different. This, however, is B450, the entry-level budget board not intended for all kinds of freaky stuff. I mean if you are planning to run viral on the CPU software like prime95, hey okay .. you're right. But if you plan to do all kinds of weird stuff on your B450 motherboard, perhaps you should have looked at X470 in the first place? This board will be fine for the 90% out there and is far from being garbage.
Short summary: this board is garbage ..
No, it certainly isn't. The VRM hype simply is getting out of context, as hey people love to create viral clicks? The board has 4 phases to the CPU, and yes they are doubled up, doubling up still cools down the chokes and capacitors in use as they distribute the load evenly. Add to that the VRM cooling that gigabyte applied and have a peek at the thermal image in the review.
Even if you load up b450 with the fastest Ryzen (like we did) it'll function fine. Once you overclock extremely things could be different. This, however, is B450, the entry-level budget board not intended for all kinds of freaky stuff. I mean if you are planning to run viral on the CPU software like prime95, hey okay .. you're right. But if you plan to do all kinds of weird stuff on your B450 motherboard, perhaps you should have looked at X470 in the first place? This board will be fine for the 90% out there and is far from being garbage.
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Thanks for the review. I'm interested in a new motherboard. I'll think I'll pass on this one. I don't like the lack of a ps/2 port and I'd prefer an actual voltage setting versus an offset. Otherwise, this looks like a decent motherboard.
It's interesting to see the difference in maximum core # power readings at default versus overclocked. I've used your reviews to see how my readings differ compared to yours. My 1200 yields 11-12 watt core # power readings at 3.9 Ghz. I get a little jealous when I see the lower core # power readings on the higher binned cpus you often test.
Your gaming tests also seem to show differing performance regarding the size of the L3 cache. Ghost Recon Wildlands: 1920 X 1080 appears to show that the smaller L3 cache on the lower model ryzens is having a negative effect on the frame rate.
Once again, thanks for the review. I'll read the others soon.