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Nvidia recently released a new entry-level SKU into the market, a GeForce GTX 1050 with 3GB graphics memory. In this review, we'll confirm if this product really is a GeForce GTX 1050 Ti, with less memory. If so, that might make these cards an interesting and attractive product to purchase as it has a little more oomph under that hood.
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#5563072 Posted on: 07/06/2018 02:30 PM
Pure curiosity and nothing else, but why do many people still have a fascination for single slot solutions?
I mean from a practical point of view really it doesn't make any difference as all mobos are designed for dual-slot. Next to that dual-slot will cool better and offer improved acoustics. I mean you can argue that it could look nicer, but even that is debatable. Also, you'll have more display outputs with dual-slot.
Or is it just a grasp back to the good old times and we're all getting older and grumpy
Pure curiosity and nothing else, but why do many people still have a fascination for single slot solutions?
I mean from a practical point of view really it doesn't make any difference as all mobos are designed for dual-slot. Next to that dual-slot will cool better and offer improved acoustics. I mean you can argue that it could look nicer, but even that is debatable. Also, you'll have more display outputs with dual-slot.
Or is it just a grasp back to the good old times and we're all getting older and grumpy
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#5563074 Posted on: 07/06/2018 02:42 PM
Old school HH , but the best was 8800GTX and GTS ... good graphic cards, with a nice bang for buck ... not like now ! 700 - 800 euro for a tier 2 card
Old school HH , but the best was 8800GTX and GTS ... good graphic cards, with a nice bang for buck ... not like now ! 700 - 800 euro for a tier 2 card
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#5563076 Posted on: 07/06/2018 02:43 PM
Pure curiosity and nothing else, but why do many people still have a fascination for single slot solutions?
I mean from a practical point of view really it doesn't make any difference as all mobos are designed for dual-slot. Next to that dual-slot will cool better and offer improved acoustics. I mean you can argue that it could look nicer, but even that is debatable. Also, you'll have more display outputs with dual-slot.
Or is it just a grasp back to the good old times and we're all getting older and grumpy
You are not, i love single slot solution and/or passive... as a WC user i use single slot solution when it is possible.
Also it is more cute.
Pure curiosity and nothing else, but why do many people still have a fascination for single slot solutions?
I mean from a practical point of view really it doesn't make any difference as all mobos are designed for dual-slot. Next to that dual-slot will cool better and offer improved acoustics. I mean you can argue that it could look nicer, but even that is debatable. Also, you'll have more display outputs with dual-slot.
Or is it just a grasp back to the good old times and we're all getting older and grumpy
You are not, i love single slot solution and/or passive... as a WC user i use single slot solution when it is possible.
Also it is more cute.
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#5563078 Posted on: 07/06/2018 02:47 PM
GPUs like this are ideal for ITX builds, and many ITX cases only support 1 slot. Also, some people have a use for all expansion slots available on their motherboard. I have a BOINC rig with 4x GPUs, 1 PCIe wifi card, and a PCI diagnostic card. This would not be possible if it weren't for single-slot cards. Sure, I could maybe use risers or buy aftermarket coolers, but why should I when I don't have to?
Not all - there are plenty of mobos out there with a PCIe x1 slot directly below the x16 slot (or, larger slots when you consider servers and workstations).
I think of this more in a practicality sense:
If you've got a ~50W GPU that can run perfectly cool and quiet as a low-profile single-slot card, why wouldn't you? It's basically universally compatible with all build types. The manufacturer will maximize their market (and therefore profits) if they can accommodate this. So as far as I'm concerned, this is a missed opportunity.
Pure curiosity and nothing else, but why do many people still have a fascination for single slot solutions?
GPUs like this are ideal for ITX builds, and many ITX cases only support 1 slot. Also, some people have a use for all expansion slots available on their motherboard. I have a BOINC rig with 4x GPUs, 1 PCIe wifi card, and a PCI diagnostic card. This would not be possible if it weren't for single-slot cards. Sure, I could maybe use risers or buy aftermarket coolers, but why should I when I don't have to?
I mean from a practical point of view really it doesn't make any difference as all mobos are designed for dual-slot. Next to that dual-slot will cool better and offer improved acoustics. I mean you can argue that it could look nicer, but even that is debatable. Also, you'll have more display outputs with dual-slot.
Not all - there are plenty of mobos out there with a PCIe x1 slot directly below the x16 slot (or, larger slots when you consider servers and workstations).
Or is it just a grasp back to the good old times and we're all getting older and grumpy
I think of this more in a practicality sense:
If you've got a ~50W GPU that can run perfectly cool and quiet as a low-profile single-slot card, why wouldn't you? It's basically universally compatible with all build types. The manufacturer will maximize their market (and therefore profits) if they can accommodate this. So as far as I'm concerned, this is a missed opportunity.
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#5563080 Posted on: 07/06/2018 02:50 PM
Nice review Boss ....weird card for sure...1060 3GB will blow the doors off of it for a few bucks more.
Nice review Boss ....weird card for sure...1060 3GB will blow the doors off of it for a few bucks more.
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#5563082 Posted on: 07/06/2018 02:54 PM
I still remember reading somewhere about those GTX 1050 3Gb and wondering wha the he... is this card supposed to do? Or fit in? Like, there's no real "gap" there between the 1050Ti and the regular 1050.
But I kept reading, and they mentioned something about lack of availability (same production line of the rest mem chips but lower profit, higher demand from all other chips so no real reason to focus on this model) of 512mb GDDR5 chips. Which kind of made sense, because the 2gb model used 4 of those. So they were not really going to coexist for so long (the 1050 2gb and 3gb), as availability from those 512mb chips was getting smaller, so they could eventually be replaced by the 3gb model. Pricing was also supposed to be either equal or very close. Then again, gpu market is still very weird price wise so...
I still remember reading somewhere about those GTX 1050 3Gb and wondering wha the he... is this card supposed to do? Or fit in? Like, there's no real "gap" there between the 1050Ti and the regular 1050.
But I kept reading, and they mentioned something about lack of availability (same production line of the rest mem chips but lower profit, higher demand from all other chips so no real reason to focus on this model) of 512mb GDDR5 chips. Which kind of made sense, because the 2gb model used 4 of those. So they were not really going to coexist for so long (the 1050 2gb and 3gb), as availability from those 512mb chips was getting smaller, so they could eventually be replaced by the 3gb model. Pricing was also supposed to be either equal or very close. Then again, gpu market is still very weird price wise so...
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#5563084 Posted on: 07/06/2018 02:59 PM
the best were GTX 280/260 it was the 1st of the new gen GPU (ok it was hot not only in perf lol)
Old school HH , but the best was 8800GTX and GTS ... good graphic cards, with a nice bang for buck ... not like now ! 700 - 800 euro for a tier 2 card
the best were GTX 280/260 it was the 1st of the new gen GPU (ok it was hot not only in perf lol)
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#5563088 Posted on: 07/06/2018 03:19 PM
because PC enthusiasts? love single slot watercooling setups:
because PC enthusiasts? love single slot watercooling setups:
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#5563092 Posted on: 07/06/2018 03:53 PM
@Hilbert Hagedoorn
"You will spot a product with a nice and white PCB and rather sizable cooler for this rather simple product."
Where's that white PCB?
@Hilbert Hagedoorn
"You will spot a product with a nice and white PCB and rather sizable cooler for this rather simple product."
Where's that white PCB?
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#5563095 Posted on: 07/06/2018 03:57 PM
Single slot water cooling I understand looks nice + you remove the cooling challenges at hand. mITX, sure fair enough. The rest though .. why fit multiple 1050 cards if you can just get one single card that is faster? Ah well, if demand is high enough, surely some manufacturers will offer it at one point. Each his own preference of course.
Single slot water cooling I understand looks nice + you remove the cooling challenges at hand. mITX, sure fair enough. The rest though .. why fit multiple 1050 cards if you can just get one single card that is faster? Ah well, if demand is high enough, surely some manufacturers will offer it at one point. Each his own preference of course.
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#5563097 Posted on: 07/06/2018 04:03 PM
I'm not sure I understand. There would be no performance loss with a single-slot 1050, and I personally not suggesting someone get multiple 1050s (especially since you can't SLI them), but rather you can slot in other expansion cards (any kind, doesn't matter) below them.
why fit multiple 1050 cards if you can just get one single card that is faster?
I'm not sure I understand. There would be no performance loss with a single-slot 1050, and I personally not suggesting someone get multiple 1050s (especially since you can't SLI them), but rather you can slot in other expansion cards (any kind, doesn't matter) below them.
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#5563099 Posted on: 07/06/2018 04:10 PM
Really, this card is for that market who's consumer agonises over spending an extra £10 or £20, when they already went over their budget 2 components ago.
Really, this card is for that market who's consumer agonises over spending an extra £10 or £20, when they already went over their budget 2 components ago.
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#5563100 Posted on: 07/06/2018 04:15 PM
I think GPU cards have become too big, too heavy, too power hungry.
Yes, there's a massive supercomputer-like performance in that chip, but having just one single component consuming upwards of 150W and heating up to 90 degrees and staying there for hours as a person is gaming... is pretty insane.
Unfortunately, unless some breakthrough in materials is done to make "almost superconducting" transistors with extremely small leakage, allowing current day performance with half or less power consumption, we'll still see these monster GPU cards.
However, such high performance is not always needed, so small GPU's that don't even need extra power cables are welcomed for all the usage cases when supercomputing level performance is not needed, but still nice to have the ability to run 3D games (albeit with lower details) or complpex 3D software (like Google Maps/Earth)
I think GPU cards have become too big, too heavy, too power hungry.
Yes, there's a massive supercomputer-like performance in that chip, but having just one single component consuming upwards of 150W and heating up to 90 degrees and staying there for hours as a person is gaming... is pretty insane.
Unfortunately, unless some breakthrough in materials is done to make "almost superconducting" transistors with extremely small leakage, allowing current day performance with half or less power consumption, we'll still see these monster GPU cards.
However, such high performance is not always needed, so small GPU's that don't even need extra power cables are welcomed for all the usage cases when supercomputing level performance is not needed, but still nice to have the ability to run 3D games (albeit with lower details) or complpex 3D software (like Google Maps/Earth)
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#5563103 Posted on: 07/06/2018 04:22 PM
I wish single slot cards was still the standard. We should have adapters. But instead we reached 3-slot(2.5x more precisely) gpus. Even 2-slot isn't really enthusiastic anymore. We reinforced pci slots just for this weight. Technology doesn't go always forward in all aspects.
I wish single slot cards was still the standard. We should have adapters. But instead we reached 3-slot(2.5x more precisely) gpus. Even 2-slot isn't really enthusiastic anymore. We reinforced pci slots just for this weight. Technology doesn't go always forward in all aspects.
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It's a good thing they marketed it as a 1050, because that 96-bit memory is pretty crippling. Even when the GPU core is overwhlemed in 4K, the memory still bottlenecks the performance.
I also think they easily could've made this a single-slot GPU. It runs pretty cool, even under full load. Making this a dual-slot reduces the amount of potential cases you could put it in.