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Review: G.Skill TridentZ NEO DDR4 3600 MHz 64GB (Ryzen Kit)
We review what I find to be one of the better looking and properly fast DDR4 memory kits ever. G.Skill TridentZ NEO DDR4, now nicely dense up at 32GB per DIMM module. This TridentZ NEO 64GB (x2 32GB) memory is not just purring nicely at 3600 MHz, it has XMP 2.0 memory profiles compatible with both intel and Ryzen platforms as well. Hey, volume over frequency configured at CL18-25-25-45.
Read the review here.
Review: Elgato Key Light Air - 05/13/2020 03:43 PM
This round, we’re checking out the Elgato KEY LIGHT AIR. The manufacturer, a German company that has seen ownership by Corsair for over two years now, and its products are dedicated mainly to stream...
Review: Lexar NM610 NVMe M.2. SSD - 05/12/2020 03:27 PM
Lexar refreshed its NVMe lineup with the NM610 series M2 Solid State Drives. A value SSD proposition on the 8cm M2 form factor. The Lexar NM610 can read up to 2100 MB/s and write up to 1600MB/s. It do...
Review: XFX Radeon RX 5600 XT (14Gbps GDDR6) THICC II Pro - 05/08/2020 03:44 PM
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Review: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 and 3300X processors - Quad Core Galore - 05/07/2020 03:00 PM
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Review: TeamGroup PD1000 Portable SSD - 05/06/2020 02:49 PM
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#5789585 Posted on: 05/18/2020 07:27 AM
the newer ddr4 ics clock really high(micron rev E and samsung 16Gbit D-die can readily do 4000mhz+), but cannot do tight timings, they are designed for max bandwidth and low power consumption, samsung 16Gbit b-die(as famous for the ultra low latency 3200 cl14 kits , and now EOL) was an exception rather than the rule unfortunately.
I love my 16-16-16-36 3600Mhz kit form G.Skill. Have never had any issues from them. However why have we not seen timings get tighter? You would think we would have some really tight timings on DDR4 by now?
the newer ddr4 ics clock really high(micron rev E and samsung 16Gbit D-die can readily do 4000mhz+), but cannot do tight timings, they are designed for max bandwidth and low power consumption, samsung 16Gbit b-die(as famous for the ultra low latency 3200 cl14 kits , and now EOL) was an exception rather than the rule unfortunately.
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#5789618 Posted on: 05/18/2020 12:19 PM
Because there is no push in the market. FPS gains for lower latency or bandwidth increase are marginal, while bigger size has major advantages in more applications.
Is still the server market that drives memory technology
I love my 16-16-16-36 3600Mhz kit form G.Skill. Have never had any issues from them. However why have we not seen timings get tighter? You would think we would have some really tight timings on DDR4 by now?
Because there is no push in the market. FPS gains for lower latency or bandwidth increase are marginal, while bigger size has major advantages in more applications.
Is still the server market that drives memory technology
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#5790089 Posted on: 05/19/2020 07:45 PM
Because there is no push in the market. FPS gains for lower latency or bandwidth increase are marginal, while bigger size has major advantages in more applications.
Is still the server market that drives memory technology
Dingety-ding-ding-ding! You Are Winnar!
As they always say: No matter the speed of RAM, it's all water under the bridge if you don't have enough of it.
When I went to Micro Center for a buying spree - I could have gotten 16gb (2x8gb) of the fast (3600mhz cl14 to cl-16 range) for 80~120$.
OR, I could have snagged 2x 16gb single stick packs for 72$ a piece (2x72$, for 2x16gb sticks of dual-rank 3000mhz cl-15) from the 'on-sale' rack. Which I precisely did do.
I am glad I went the 32gb route - for content creation that I do here is always munching it up. Heck, even the OS and web browser combined will happily munch of over 8gb at times.
So yes, entirely happy here with slightly slower but plentiful amounts of RAM (well 64gb would be 'plentiful', this is 'a bit more than enough' for my heavier work-loads).
ON-TOPIC:
It would be nice if they would make an RGB-free version of this for the adults that don't need a disco-tech blinding them. I refuse to pay extra for features, would rather spend that RGB premium on something that actually makes the computer faster. "Oooh Shiny!" only goes so far, 'ya know.
Because there is no push in the market. FPS gains for lower latency or bandwidth increase are marginal, while bigger size has major advantages in more applications.
Is still the server market that drives memory technology
Dingety-ding-ding-ding! You Are Winnar!
As they always say: No matter the speed of RAM, it's all water under the bridge if you don't have enough of it.
When I went to Micro Center for a buying spree - I could have gotten 16gb (2x8gb) of the fast (3600mhz cl14 to cl-16 range) for 80~120$.
OR, I could have snagged 2x 16gb single stick packs for 72$ a piece (2x72$, for 2x16gb sticks of dual-rank 3000mhz cl-15) from the 'on-sale' rack. Which I precisely did do.
I am glad I went the 32gb route - for content creation that I do here is always munching it up. Heck, even the OS and web browser combined will happily munch of over 8gb at times.
So yes, entirely happy here with slightly slower but plentiful amounts of RAM (well 64gb would be 'plentiful', this is 'a bit more than enough' for my heavier work-loads).
ON-TOPIC:
It would be nice if they would make an RGB-free version of this for the adults that don't need a disco-tech blinding them. I refuse to pay extra for features, would rather spend that RGB premium on something that actually makes the computer faster. "Oooh Shiny!" only goes so far, 'ya know.
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#5790185 Posted on: 05/20/2020 12:58 AM
Dingety-ding-ding-ding! You Are Winnar!
As they always say: No matter the speed of RAM, it's all water under the bridge if you don't have enough of it.
When I went to Micro Center for a buying spree - I could have gotten 16gb (2x8gb) of the fast (3600mhz cl14 to cl-16 range) for 80~120$.
OR, I could have snagged 2x 16gb single stick packs for 72$ a piece (2x72$, for 2x16gb sticks of dual-rank 3000mhz cl-15) from the 'on-sale' rack. Which I precisely did do.
I am glad I went the 32gb route - for content creation that I do here is always munching it up. Heck, even the OS and web browser combined will happily munch of over 8gb at times.
So yes, entirely happy here with slightly slower but plentiful amounts of RAM (well 64gb would be 'plentiful', this is 'a bit more than enough' for my heavier work-loads).
ON-TOPIC:
It would be nice if they would make an RGB-free version of this for the adults that don't need a disco-tech blinding them. I refuse to pay extra for features, would rather spend that RGB premium on something that actually makes the computer faster. "Oooh Shiny!" only goes so far, 'ya know.
The thing is windows will use more if more is available. My work PC has just 8GB in it and it hums along “fine” with 10+ chrome tabs, CDK with 3 or more tabs open, two IE tabs and a web based estimate generator called Edge MPi. So again window idle process will scale to available ram.
Though I do have 32GB in my laptop 2x16GB and that thing seriously flys eventhough it’s only a 90W 2060.
Because there is no push in the market. FPS gains for lower latency or bandwidth increase are marginal, while bigger size has major advantages in more applications.
Is still the server market that drives memory technology
While yes there is not a huge increase in max frames and average with lower latency and faster RAM there is a marked improvement in 1% lows which will improve your experience. Low latency is almost required on Ryzen to get a good gaming experience. Production workloads however it’s not as big a deal.
Dingety-ding-ding-ding! You Are Winnar!
As they always say: No matter the speed of RAM, it's all water under the bridge if you don't have enough of it.
When I went to Micro Center for a buying spree - I could have gotten 16gb (2x8gb) of the fast (3600mhz cl14 to cl-16 range) for 80~120$.
OR, I could have snagged 2x 16gb single stick packs for 72$ a piece (2x72$, for 2x16gb sticks of dual-rank 3000mhz cl-15) from the 'on-sale' rack. Which I precisely did do.
I am glad I went the 32gb route - for content creation that I do here is always munching it up. Heck, even the OS and web browser combined will happily munch of over 8gb at times.
So yes, entirely happy here with slightly slower but plentiful amounts of RAM (well 64gb would be 'plentiful', this is 'a bit more than enough' for my heavier work-loads).
ON-TOPIC:
It would be nice if they would make an RGB-free version of this for the adults that don't need a disco-tech blinding them. I refuse to pay extra for features, would rather spend that RGB premium on something that actually makes the computer faster. "Oooh Shiny!" only goes so far, 'ya know.
The thing is windows will use more if more is available. My work PC has just 8GB in it and it hums along “fine” with 10+ chrome tabs, CDK with 3 or more tabs open, two IE tabs and a web based estimate generator called Edge MPi. So again window idle process will scale to available ram.
Though I do have 32GB in my laptop 2x16GB and that thing seriously flys eventhough it’s only a 90W 2060.
Because there is no push in the market. FPS gains for lower latency or bandwidth increase are marginal, while bigger size has major advantages in more applications.
Is still the server market that drives memory technology
While yes there is not a huge increase in max frames and average with lower latency and faster RAM there is a marked improvement in 1% lows which will improve your experience. Low latency is almost required on Ryzen to get a good gaming experience. Production workloads however it’s not as big a deal.
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the capacity on the second page of the review, shouldn't it be 64GB (32GB x 2) instead of 16GB (32GB x 2)?