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#5527794 Posted on: 03/13/2018 06:31 PM
Your timings?
Your timings?
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#5527817 Posted on: 03/13/2018 07:25 PM
15-16-16-34 - 290 - 42000 or 44000 at 3400mhz, other sub i don't remember but pretty much the same as xmp one's
edit 45ns latency , 2T
Your timings?
15-16-16-34 - 290 - 42000 or 44000 at 3400mhz, other sub i don't remember but pretty much the same as xmp one's
edit 45ns latency , 2T
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#5527841 Posted on: 03/13/2018 08:23 PM
And herein the answer is found. Faster timed (more expensive) memory will result in that.
And herein the answer is found. Faster timed (more expensive) memory will result in that.
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#5527857 Posted on: 03/13/2018 09:01 PM
yes but the point is that i dont think that my 3200 kit is better binned then those 3600 stick, so i gues something is messed up in the timings
And herein the answer is found. Faster timed (more expensive) memory will result in that.
yes but the point is that i dont think that my 3200 kit is better binned then those 3600 stick, so i gues something is messed up in the timings
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#5527943 Posted on: 03/13/2018 11:59 PM
So now we don't tweak our dram anymore? we just buy the highest pre-tested speed from a manufacturer for a kidney and we are good lol...
I am sorry but why don't you try to tweak the timings and overclock just to see if...
For the love of hardware, peace.
So now we don't tweak our dram anymore? we just buy the highest pre-tested speed from a manufacturer for a kidney and we are good lol...
I am sorry but why don't you try to tweak the timings and overclock just to see if...
For the love of hardware, peace.
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#5527964 Posted on: 03/14/2018 01:43 AM
So now we don't tweak our dram anymore? we just buy the highest pre-tested speed from a manufacturer for a kidney and we are good lol...
I am sorry but why don't you try to tweak the timings and overclock just to see if...
For the love of hardware, peace.
this ^^
Tweaking ram can be tedious but just a quick setup of few parameter can be enough to obtain substantial gains
So now we don't tweak our dram anymore? we just buy the highest pre-tested speed from a manufacturer for a kidney and we are good lol...
I am sorry but why don't you try to tweak the timings and overclock just to see if...
For the love of hardware, peace.
this ^^
Tweaking ram can be tedious but just a quick setup of few parameter can be enough to obtain substantial gains
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#5528048 Posted on: 03/14/2018 10:04 AM
Hi! Thanks for using Thaiphoon Burner software for your review! But you seem to have used a very old version of the software, the part number of DRAM chips is wrong. They are based on C-die, not M-die. I would recommend you to update Thaiphoon Burner version to the latest one 12.1.
Hi! Thanks for using Thaiphoon Burner software for your review! But you seem to have used a very old version of the software, the part number of DRAM chips is wrong. They are based on C-die, not M-die. I would recommend you to update Thaiphoon Burner version to the latest one 12.1.
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#5528149 Posted on: 03/14/2018 03:30 PM
this ^^
Tweaking ram can be tedious but just a quick setup of few parameter can be enough to obtain substantial gains
Its not what it used to be and getting worse all the time.
Going from CL 3 to CL 2 and 400mhz to 420mhz back in the day would result in some pretty crazy results because as a percentage those numbers really matter a lot.
Today you could be working like crazy to go from CL 19 to CL 18 and 3800mhz to 3820mhz and outside of benchmarks never even notice.
If we ever get to the point where CL 25 and 5000mhz become typical, tweaking wont even get you beyond margin of error in benchmarks.
this ^^
Tweaking ram can be tedious but just a quick setup of few parameter can be enough to obtain substantial gains
Its not what it used to be and getting worse all the time.
Going from CL 3 to CL 2 and 400mhz to 420mhz back in the day would result in some pretty crazy results because as a percentage those numbers really matter a lot.
Today you could be working like crazy to go from CL 19 to CL 18 and 3800mhz to 3820mhz and outside of benchmarks never even notice.
If we ever get to the point where CL 25 and 5000mhz become typical, tweaking wont even get you beyond margin of error in benchmarks.
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#5528265 Posted on: 03/14/2018 09:39 PM
Its not what it used to be and getting worse all the time.
Going from CL 3 to CL 2 and 400mhz to 420mhz back in the day would result in some pretty crazy results because as a percentage those numbers really matter a lot.
Today you could be working like crazy to go from CL 19 to CL 18 and 3800mhz to 3820mhz and outside of benchmarks never even notice.
If we ever get to the point where CL 25 and 5000mhz become typical, tweaking wont even get you beyond margin of error in benchmarks.
yep, that is so true. Probably related to tecnology. 15 years ago there were cpu that was able to run 50 or 100% faster then their standard clock, with gigantic gain , in proportion. Actual cpu are magnitude faster but such overclock perf are simply unthinkable
Its not what it used to be and getting worse all the time.
Going from CL 3 to CL 2 and 400mhz to 420mhz back in the day would result in some pretty crazy results because as a percentage those numbers really matter a lot.
Today you could be working like crazy to go from CL 19 to CL 18 and 3800mhz to 3820mhz and outside of benchmarks never even notice.
If we ever get to the point where CL 25 and 5000mhz become typical, tweaking wont even get you beyond margin of error in benchmarks.
yep, that is so true. Probably related to tecnology. 15 years ago there were cpu that was able to run 50 or 100% faster then their standard clock, with gigantic gain , in proportion. Actual cpu are magnitude faster but such overclock perf are simply unthinkable
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#5528269 Posted on: 03/14/2018 09:51 PM
Those timings are atrocious, definitely not samsung B-die ICs.
It costs 234 USD which is really not a good deal considering you can find trident C16 kits for 10 USD less.
So now we don't tweak our dram anymore? we just buy the highest pre-tested speed from a manufacturer for a kidney and we are good lol...
I am sorry but why don't you try to tweak the timings and overclock just to see if...
For the love of hardware, peace.
Several reasons, with time being number 1 factor.
It can take a few days to find 1000% stability with a certain ram OC.
HH definitely does not have time to do that for every kit.
Having a quick 'dirty' OC does not mean much because it would likely be unstable in real world tests.
Also, ICs have varying qualities.
Out of the two dimms you get, the other could be a dud in comparison to the other.
So guaranteed OC will vary kit to kit(meaning others could not just set timings and voltage and expect total stability from a review)
Those timings are atrocious, definitely not samsung B-die ICs.
It costs 234 USD which is really not a good deal considering you can find trident C16 kits for 10 USD less.
So now we don't tweak our dram anymore? we just buy the highest pre-tested speed from a manufacturer for a kidney and we are good lol...
I am sorry but why don't you try to tweak the timings and overclock just to see if...
For the love of hardware, peace.
Several reasons, with time being number 1 factor.
It can take a few days to find 1000% stability with a certain ram OC.
HH definitely does not have time to do that for every kit.
Having a quick 'dirty' OC does not mean much because it would likely be unstable in real world tests.
Also, ICs have varying qualities.
Out of the two dimms you get, the other could be a dud in comparison to the other.
So guaranteed OC will vary kit to kit(meaning others could not just set timings and voltage and expect total stability from a review)
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#5528690 Posted on: 03/16/2018 06:10 AM
€189 = NZ$319.69 which is not far off what they are actually priced at here $359.00NZD
I cant help but think though if only manufactures worked on bringing timing numbers down more rather than just pooping out a faster MHz speed to compensate for crappy timings .... imagine if you would DDR4-3200MHz @ CL 5-5-5-9
€189 = NZ$319.69 which is not far off what they are actually priced at here $359.00NZD
I cant help but think though if only manufactures worked on bringing timing numbers down more rather than just pooping out a faster MHz speed to compensate for crappy timings .... imagine if you would DDR4-3200MHz @ CL 5-5-5-9
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Hilbert, i have a 8700k with a maximum x hero, and a pair of 16gb stick (dual rank) trident z at 3400 with properly tweaked timing and subtiming and i can break 50k in aida and stay under 43 ns latency. those results at 3600 doesn't seem so high to me