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#5485226 Posted on: 10/25/2017 12:58 PM
After updating to the newest AMD drivers, i can't seem to get 75fps in the open areas i can see my GPU usage maxing out.
And thats when i notice framedrops, i don't think the previous driver did that, it was butter smooth all the way.
After updating to the newest AMD drivers, i can't seem to get 75fps in the open areas i can see my GPU usage maxing out.
And thats when i notice framedrops, i don't think the previous driver did that, it was butter smooth all the way.
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#5485244 Posted on: 10/25/2017 01:56 PM
Impressive results for AMD Vega at 1440 and 4k. I am surprised with how these results compare to 1080p.
Impressive results for AMD Vega at 1440 and 4k. I am surprised with how these results compare to 1080p.
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#5485269 Posted on: 10/25/2017 02:42 PM
That called my attention too, the jump from 1080p to 1440p for AMD performance when you compare it to Nvidia
That called my attention too, the jump from 1080p to 1440p for AMD performance when you compare it to Nvidia
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#5485314 Posted on: 10/25/2017 04:47 PM
Glad your copy didn't get banned
OnT the game runs great. I personally run the Highest settings too but turned DoF down to Low for a nice FPS boost.
Glad your copy didn't get banned
OnT the game runs great. I personally run the Highest settings too but turned DoF down to Low for a nice FPS boost.
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#5485315 Posted on: 10/25/2017 04:48 PM
This seems to be more on par with what I'm getting. Note to self, ignore reddit user's claims.
This seems to be more on par with what I'm getting. Note to self, ignore reddit user's claims.
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#5485381 Posted on: 10/25/2017 06:57 PM
56 reaches gtx 1080 performance in 1440 and beats it in 4k, I didn't see thay coming
56 reaches gtx 1080 performance in 1440 and beats it in 4k, I didn't see thay coming
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#5485411 Posted on: 10/25/2017 08:14 PM
For how the game looks these results are somewhat surprising. The graphics are quite ugly and the GTX 1070 gets FullHD/Maxed only 125 FPS. This is not great performance in my books, only average.
For how the game looks these results are somewhat surprising. The graphics are quite ugly and the GTX 1070 gets FullHD/Maxed only 125 FPS. This is not great performance in my books, only average.
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#5485437 Posted on: 10/25/2017 08:53 PM
@Hilbert Hagedoorn, wrong numbers for the 480 or could be other issues lying behind?
@Hilbert Hagedoorn, wrong numbers for the 480 or could be other issues lying behind?
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#5485446 Posted on: 10/25/2017 09:07 PM
I noted that anomaly in the review. Not sure, ran it three times for the 480 and even reinstalled drivers - but got the same odd results over and over again. The results are what they are, not gonna sugar coat that by leaving it out of the chart.
I noted that anomaly in the review. Not sure, ran it three times for the 480 and even reinstalled drivers - but got the same odd results over and over again. The results are what they are, not gonna sugar coat that by leaving it out of the chart.
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#5485448 Posted on: 10/25/2017 09:21 PM
I hate being the conspiracy theory guy here but is there some sort of planned obsolescence built into Nvidia cards or do they just not age well? These kind of results with the 1070ti on the cusp is highly suspect to me. I admit its been quite a while since I owned Nvidia cards. As soon as a new Nvidia card comes out the older cards relative performance begins to tank.
Edit: Also is this the air cooled Vega 64? If so this means the liquid is even closer to the 1080ti.
I hate being the conspiracy theory guy here but is there some sort of planned obsolescence built into Nvidia cards or do they just not age well? These kind of results with the 1070ti on the cusp is highly suspect to me. I admit its been quite a while since I owned Nvidia cards. As soon as a new Nvidia card comes out the older cards relative performance begins to tank.
Edit: Also is this the air cooled Vega 64? If so this means the liquid is even closer to the 1080ti.
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#5485452 Posted on: 10/25/2017 09:30 PM
Ehm no, because I already tested the card you mention with this title and it's spot on where it needs to be. Secondly if Nvidia would do such a thing, it would show in all games. AMD found something clever that works for them, it's as simple as that.
And yes, this is tested with the air-cooled Vegas. AMD never shipped the liquid cooled edition for review. BTW it is a good question, I'll make some changes in future charts denoting clearly we use the air cooled versions.
Ehm no, because I already tested the card you mention with this title and it's spot on where it needs to be. Secondly if Nvidia would do such a thing, it would show in all games. AMD found something clever that works for them, it's as simple as that.
And yes, this is tested with the air-cooled Vegas. AMD never shipped the liquid cooled edition for review. BTW it is a good question, I'll make some changes in future charts denoting clearly we use the air cooled versions.
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#5485453 Posted on: 10/25/2017 09:31 PM
Looks like some very suspicious results for AMD. 580 is twice as fast as the 480 with just a 5% OC. Not buying that in the least. The jumps from 1080 to 1440 are too wide. Something is going on at the driver level that is excluding 4xx cards from optimization’s or AMD is disabling something via driver on the newer cards.
Looks like some very suspicious results for AMD. 580 is twice as fast as the 480 with just a 5% OC. Not buying that in the least. The jumps from 1080 to 1440 are too wide. Something is going on at the driver level that is excluding 4xx cards from optimization’s or AMD is disabling something via driver on the newer cards.
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#5485477 Posted on: 10/25/2017 10:35 PM
Hilbert, are you able to test 1440p and 4k at Highest Settings but with DoF drops to High? Right now on Pascal at 1080p, the difference between Highest and High is 5-7% yet at higher resolution i.e 1440p and 4K it's up to 33% performance difference, very significant. I suspect the same thing is happening to the Rx 480.
Hilbert, are you able to test 1440p and 4k at Highest Settings but with DoF drops to High? Right now on Pascal at 1080p, the difference between Highest and High is 5-7% yet at higher resolution i.e 1440p and 4K it's up to 33% performance difference, very significant. I suspect the same thing is happening to the Rx 480.
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#5485483 Posted on: 10/25/2017 10:49 PM
I'd like to see comparisons in IQ between AMD and Nvidia. Call me old, but there was a time 15 years ago when nvidia's FX series was a disaster in dx9 and they did everything possible to "tweak, optimize, fix, help, improve", the frames in those games by doing some rather shady stuff. AMD then got caught doing the same thing 2 or three gens later. Ever since then, regardless of company, when I see two pieces of hardware that are usually close to one another and a big difference like this appears, I tend to assume it's cheap optimizations. Yes, that makes me sound negative, but if you did any reading into these companies, their drivers and the things they've done in the last decade even, you'd understand my assumptions.
Just seems too good to be true. And my grandpa taught me if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.
I assumed these would be common results with AMD vs nvidia after AMD won the rights to BOTH big consoles. I assumed porting over through dx12 to AMD would be easier and probably make for more real optimizations. But this has not been the case.
I'd like to see comparisons in IQ between AMD and Nvidia. Call me old, but there was a time 15 years ago when nvidia's FX series was a disaster in dx9 and they did everything possible to "tweak, optimize, fix, help, improve", the frames in those games by doing some rather shady stuff. AMD then got caught doing the same thing 2 or three gens later. Ever since then, regardless of company, when I see two pieces of hardware that are usually close to one another and a big difference like this appears, I tend to assume it's cheap optimizations. Yes, that makes me sound negative, but if you did any reading into these companies, their drivers and the things they've done in the last decade even, you'd understand my assumptions.
Just seems too good to be true. And my grandpa taught me if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.
I assumed these would be common results with AMD vs nvidia after AMD won the rights to BOTH big consoles. I assumed porting over through dx12 to AMD would be easier and probably make for more real optimizations. But this has not been the case.
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Thank you Hilbert for the benchmarks!
Wonder why only the 1440P performance was updated for AMD cards (Vega 56 just got beaten in FHD by the 1070, but ultimately destroys it in 1440P, just like the 580 with the 1060). Vega64 is actually 10% from the 1080Ti in 4K. And it is an NV supported title. Absolutely terrific results for AMD (just like in Shadow of War).