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Review: Core i9 10980XE processor (Intel 18-core galore)
In this article, we'll review the all-new 18-core Core i9 10980XE from Intel that runs to 4.8 GHz. Despite many announcements, this is the most versatile (in cores) HEDT processor for the consumer market from Intel, the $979 Core i9 10980XE that sits as the flagship processor in the new Cascade lake line of processors.
Read the full review here.
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#5734760 Posted on: 11/25/2019 09:32 AM
speaking for myself but....the reason why I want to change from Z390 are the pcie lanes
which prevent me from using more than 1 nvme (at the loss of 2 sata ports per nvme the cost is too high on PCH lanes)
which prevent me from using my thunderbolt 3 pcie card
which prevent me from using an addon usb ports pcie card
which force me to use pcie x8 speed for my gpu
real case scenario here I have cards taking dust because of my lack of lanes plugging them makes my sata drives disappear (when you run out of lanes they disappear even in the bios it's like they are unplugged)
the 3950x (my mistake at the time) doesn't really fix that it adds if I understood right 4 lanes to Z390 ?! which is still not enough
two possibilities for threadripper, either it's going to suck at gaming like the previous gen, which I expect but very much hope it doesn't or it's going to destroy Intel everywhere
whatever it is I'm ready to pay the TR price I learned with Z390 that my use case is too extreme for a "consumer" setup
+1 on the power consumption, if you use that kind of HW for work then it's your customers who pay the bills or part of them, if not you don't care in the least
speaking for myself but....the reason why I want to change from Z390 are the pcie lanes
which prevent me from using more than 1 nvme (at the loss of 2 sata ports per nvme the cost is too high on PCH lanes)
which prevent me from using my thunderbolt 3 pcie card
which prevent me from using an addon usb ports pcie card
which force me to use pcie x8 speed for my gpu
real case scenario here I have cards taking dust because of my lack of lanes plugging them makes my sata drives disappear (when you run out of lanes they disappear even in the bios it's like they are unplugged)
the 3950x (my mistake at the time) doesn't really fix that it adds if I understood right 4 lanes to Z390 ?! which is still not enough
two possibilities for threadripper, either it's going to suck at gaming like the previous gen, which I expect but very much hope it doesn't or it's going to destroy Intel everywhere
whatever it is I'm ready to pay the TR price I learned with Z390 that my use case is too extreme for a "consumer" setup
+1 on the power consumption, if you use that kind of HW for work then it's your customers who pay the bills or part of them, if not you don't care in the least
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#5734761 Posted on: 11/25/2019 09:34 AM
"More cores, more secure, faster, stronger."
"Cheaper"
Should have been enough.
But not cheap enough... unfortunately.
Especially when considering total platform cost.
"More cores, more secure, faster, stronger."
"Cheaper"
Should have been enough.
But not cheap enough... unfortunately.
Especially when considering total platform cost.
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#5734762 Posted on: 11/25/2019 09:57 AM
Not bad. Not bad at all. Performs pretty damn well in games and since all those graphs are stock, this will be a beast when overclocked. Besides, who's gonna buy one of these and not overclock it? Also a person overclocking one of these is not gonna give s rat's buttcheeks about power consumption.
Maybe I should upgrade my Core i9 7980xe for this but... I liquid metal'd my 7980xe.
Not bad. Not bad at all. Performs pretty damn well in games and since all those graphs are stock, this will be a beast when overclocked. Besides, who's gonna buy one of these and not overclock it? Also a person overclocking one of these is not gonna give s rat's buttcheeks about power consumption.
Maybe I should upgrade my Core i9 7980xe for this but... I liquid metal'd my 7980xe.
Final words & conclusion
Of course, you will not be purchasing an 18-core processor to play games, that would be ludicrous
Conclusion
The biggest competitor for the Core i9 10980XE is not at all Threadripper 3000 as you'll find out later today
Of course, you will not be purchasing an 18-core processor to play games, that would be ludicrous
Conclusion
The biggest competitor for the Core i9 10980XE is not at all Threadripper 3000 as you'll find out later today
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#5734763 Posted on: 11/25/2019 10:00 AM
"Cheaper"
Should have been enough.
But not cheap enough... unfortunately.
Especially when considering total platform cost.
This CPU's price is at the price of the AMD 3900x + X570 + NVMe 1To that i have just paid.
My new CPU look really good in bench compared to this one despite having less core (wich confirm my 1st feeling about it, coming from dual Xeon)
Comparing AMD's mainstream to Intel's high end is not good to Intel at all, even more with the old chipset used in 2066...
So yes, i agree with you, this is a good CPU for upgrade a 2066, but way too expensive.
"Cheaper"
Should have been enough.
But not cheap enough... unfortunately.
Especially when considering total platform cost.
This CPU's price is at the price of the AMD 3900x + X570 + NVMe 1To that i have just paid.
My new CPU look really good in bench compared to this one despite having less core (wich confirm my 1st feeling about it, coming from dual Xeon)
Comparing AMD's mainstream to Intel's high end is not good to Intel at all, even more with the old chipset used in 2066...
So yes, i agree with you, this is a good CPU for upgrade a 2066, but way too expensive.
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#5734765 Posted on: 11/25/2019 10:09 AM
Finished reading the entire review, and also some youtube videos.
Oh boy Threadripper 3000 is going to demolish this so hard...
Finished reading the entire review, and also some youtube videos.
Oh boy Threadripper 3000 is going to demolish this so hard...
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#5734767 Posted on: 11/25/2019 10:10 AM
Maybe I should upgrade my Core i9 7980xe for this but... I liquid metal'd my 7980xe.
Well, this is not a problem
-if delited your spacer won't fit the new CPU in 90% of the case: remove the spacer+CPU+(water or air) cooler and make someone happy with it (and get his money too
)
-if delited with normal IHS (btw: NEVER use copper one like you found on the net, copper is worse than actual used by Intel, it's only to milk people) then it's like a normal CPU (but then liquid metal benefit is lost)
Maybe I should upgrade my Core i9 7980xe for this but... I liquid metal'd my 7980xe.
Well, this is not a problem
-if delited your spacer won't fit the new CPU in 90% of the case: remove the spacer+CPU+(water or air) cooler and make someone happy with it (and get his money too
)-if delited with normal IHS (btw: NEVER use copper one like you found on the net, copper is worse than actual used by Intel, it's only to milk people) then it's like a normal CPU (but then liquid metal benefit is lost)
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#5734769 Posted on: 11/25/2019 10:26 AM
I haven't been this underwhelmed since Sandy Bridge.
I haven't been this underwhelmed since Sandy Bridge.
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#5734777 Posted on: 11/25/2019 11:17 AM
Including the price cut, this feels like a product release Intel did to buy some time until they can get a new architecture out. This should be of interest to some with the massively cut price, but all in all the results are kind of lackluster.
Including the price cut, this feels like a product release Intel did to buy some time until they can get a new architecture out. This should be of interest to some with the massively cut price, but all in all the results are kind of lackluster.
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#5734779 Posted on: 11/25/2019 11:29 AM
seriously wtf?
it barely beats 3950X with 2 more cores and even loses in some tests
seriously wtf?
it barely beats 3950X with 2 more cores and even loses in some tests
BLEH!
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#5734783 Posted on: 11/25/2019 11:51 AM
I can't see why anyone would go for this over the 3950X, it's cheaper, in most cases, faster, draws less power, cheaper motherboard, newer PCIe tech...
I can't see why anyone would go for this over the 3950X, it's cheaper, in most cases, faster, draws less power, cheaper motherboard, newer PCIe tech...
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#5734785 Posted on: 11/25/2019 11:59 AM
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#5734788 Posted on: 11/25/2019 12:13 PM
I don't think this deserves the "Recommended" badge, not because its a bad product but because there is better.
I don't think this deserves the "Recommended" badge, not because its a bad product but because there is better.
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#5734790 Posted on: 11/25/2019 12:23 PM
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#5734791 Posted on: 11/25/2019 12:39 PM
Hmmm? On the website?
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Not bad. Not bad at all. Performs pretty damn well in games and since all those graphs are stock, this will be a beast when overclocked. Besides, who's gonna buy one of these and not overclock it? Also a person overclocking one of these is not gonna give s rat's buttcheeks about power consumption.
Maybe I should upgrade my Core i9 7980xe for this but... I liquid metal'd my 7980xe.