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Review: ASUS TUF X299 Mark I Motherboard with Core i9 7900X
We grab a Core i9 7900X processor and review the €289,- ASUS TUF X299 Mark 1 motherboard with it, yes the Sabertooth series is back. A nice looking motherboard in dark theme offering nice features, design and of course performance. This X299 motherboard can house Kaby-Lake-X and Skylake-X processors. Will the recent BIOS updates have fixed the initial Skylake-X issues?
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#5472298 Posted on: 09/15/2017 02:11 PM
7700kk on air 4.6.... if you delid yes, or if you get an expensive AIO €100+.
My 1600X at 4.2 uses a Gammax s40 that costs €22 keeps my cpu at 68ºC max when i stress.
Scores the same as a 7700k at 4.8ghz, and at stock is 2-4% slower then a stock 8700k (using the leaked reviews)
7700kk on air 4.6.... if you delid yes, or if you get an expensive AIO €100+.
My 1600X at 4.2 uses a Gammax s40 that costs €22 keeps my cpu at 68ºC max when i stress.
Scores the same as a 7700k at 4.8ghz, and at stock is 2-4% slower then a stock 8700k (using the leaked reviews)
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#5472300 Posted on: 09/15/2017 02:17 PM
Yah, it's not a gaming platform, there is no need for a 7900X for gaming. It's the Industry, the punters and the youtubers who pimp these platforms as 'gaming platforms', same goes for TR, if you are buying these things for the sole purpose of gaming, you are wasting your money (but hey, it's your money so do as you please
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FYI, the 7700K gets to 4.6Ghz on air because it has only 4 cores, not 10.
X299 is far from a 'fail' platform. The 7900X OC's to 4.3Ghz (from 3.3Ghz) with no issues. The heat issues only come from people trying to hit clock speeds that are higher than that. Nowhere do I see Intel guaranteeing that you are going to be able to hit 4.6Ghz++ without significant cooling,.
There were definitely mistakes made with the X299, but I run two of them now and I will be picking up the 7980X when it drops, I have to say, apart from the fact that I don't like the MSI board (didn't really want to buy it but EVGA were not available and still aren't) which has nothing to do with X299 and more to do with MSI's inability to address problems that were around long before X299 dropped, I am very happy with my 7900X(s).
Yah, it's not a gaming platform, there is no need for a 7900X for gaming. It's the Industry, the punters and the youtubers who pimp these platforms as 'gaming platforms', same goes for TR, if you are buying these things for the sole purpose of gaming, you are wasting your money (but hey, it's your money so do as you please
)FYI, the 7700K gets to 4.6Ghz on air because it has only 4 cores, not 10.
X299 is far from a 'fail' platform. The 7900X OC's to 4.3Ghz (from 3.3Ghz) with no issues. The heat issues only come from people trying to hit clock speeds that are higher than that. Nowhere do I see Intel guaranteeing that you are going to be able to hit 4.6Ghz++ without significant cooling,.
There were definitely mistakes made with the X299, but I run two of them now and I will be picking up the 7980X when it drops, I have to say, apart from the fact that I don't like the MSI board (didn't really want to buy it but EVGA were not available and still aren't) which has nothing to do with X299 and more to do with MSI's inability to address problems that were around long before X299 dropped, I am very happy with my 7900X(s).
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#5472301 Posted on: 09/15/2017 02:18 PM
7700kk on air 4.6.... if you delid yes, or if you get an expensive AIO €100+.
My 1600X at 4.2 uses a Gammax s40 that costs €22 keeps my cpu at 68ºC max when i stress.
Scores the same as a 7700k at 4.8ghz, and at stock is 2-4% slower then a stock 8700k (using the leaked reviews)
Delid?
My 6700k has been 4.6 on air since day 1 out of the box, why would the 7700k have any problem when it's turno clocks are 4.5 on all 4 cores with default clocks and voltage...
7700kk on air 4.6.... if you delid yes, or if you get an expensive AIO €100+.
My 1600X at 4.2 uses a Gammax s40 that costs €22 keeps my cpu at 68ºC max when i stress.
Scores the same as a 7700k at 4.8ghz, and at stock is 2-4% slower then a stock 8700k (using the leaked reviews)
Delid?
My 6700k has been 4.6 on air since day 1 out of the box, why would the 7700k have any problem when it's turno clocks are 4.5 on all 4 cores with default clocks and voltage...
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#5472302 Posted on: 09/15/2017 02:23 PM
Yah, it's not a gaming platform, there is no need for a 7900X for gaming. It's the Industry, the punters and the youtubers who pimp these platforms as 'gaming platforms', same goes for TR, if you are buying these things for the sole purpose of gaming, you are wasting your money (but hey, it's your money so do as you please )
FYI, the 7700K gets to 4.6Ghz on air because it has only 4 cores, not 10.
X299 is far from a 'fail' platform. The chip OC's to 4.3Ghz (from 3.3Ghz) with no issues. The heat issues only come from people trying to hit clock speeds that are higher than that. Nowhere do I see Intel guaranteeing that you are going to be able to hit 4.6Ghz++ without significant cooling,.
There were definitely mistakes made with the X299, but I run two of them now and I will be picking up the 7980X when it drops, I have to say, apart from the fact that I don't like the MSI board (didn't really want to buy it but EVGA were not available and still aren't) which has nothing to do with X299 and more to do with MSI's inability to address problems that were around long before X299 dropped, I am very happy with my 7900X(s).
The 16 core theeadripper has been power usage and temps than a 10 core i9...there is literally no way to rationalise it. Reviewers showed the power usage going up by some insane amount...like 200% MORE power drain when applying a 15% overclock...
X299 is intels bulldozer in terms of what it delivered, it's cost to performance ratio etc....and that's not including the locked off chipset.
Yah, it's not a gaming platform, there is no need for a 7900X for gaming. It's the Industry, the punters and the youtubers who pimp these platforms as 'gaming platforms', same goes for TR, if you are buying these things for the sole purpose of gaming, you are wasting your money (but hey, it's your money so do as you please
)FYI, the 7700K gets to 4.6Ghz on air because it has only 4 cores, not 10.
X299 is far from a 'fail' platform. The chip OC's to 4.3Ghz (from 3.3Ghz) with no issues. The heat issues only come from people trying to hit clock speeds that are higher than that. Nowhere do I see Intel guaranteeing that you are going to be able to hit 4.6Ghz++ without significant cooling,.
There were definitely mistakes made with the X299, but I run two of them now and I will be picking up the 7980X when it drops, I have to say, apart from the fact that I don't like the MSI board (didn't really want to buy it but EVGA were not available and still aren't) which has nothing to do with X299 and more to do with MSI's inability to address problems that were around long before X299 dropped, I am very happy with my 7900X(s).
The 16 core theeadripper has been power usage and temps than a 10 core i9...there is literally no way to rationalise it. Reviewers showed the power usage going up by some insane amount...like 200% MORE power drain when applying a 15% overclock...
X299 is intels bulldozer in terms of what it delivered, it's cost to performance ratio etc....and that's not including the locked off chipset.
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4500mhz and it needs liquid cooling....I would bet my house that coffee lake 6 core could hit 4.6ghz on air easily, just likethe 7700k.
Imagine if intel had focused on getting a 4 and 8 core coffeelake running properly and focused on ryzen instead of this kneejerk threadripper response on this fail platform x299.
We might have gotte legit mainstream 8 core cpus on 1151.
Coffeelake already has more pci lanes than the lowest few skylake x cpus and some x370 motherboards have 3 m.2 slots as well.
That would have given everyone exactly what they wanted. There is no need for skylake x to even exist.
I wouldn't even want one over what I have now. Over a thousand dollars for a gaming performance downgrade...