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Review: ASUS ROG Crosshair VII HERO (Wifi) - A Proper Mobo For 2nd Gen Ryzen
ASUS is ready for Ryzen 2000 / Zen+, this round they've released their ROG Crosshair VII HERO (Wifi), which we just have to review. Alongside the release of Ryzen 5 2600X and Ryzen 7 2700X processors, AMD prepped the X470 chipset, that offers a more fine-tuned experience for your Ryzen processor. The new Hero, however, is taking things to an entirely new level.
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#5539351 Posted on: 04/20/2018 03:45 PM
Can't say where you got that number from, but in games on 1080p and higher those mentioned CPUs deliver almost same frame rate. (mostly within 2%)
What you stated could have been somewhat be said about 4C/4T CPUs too. Till that statement became "WTF". Now you can only guess if next one to kick bucket for high fps gaming is 4C/8T or 6C/6T.
Anyway, 8600(k) total performance is around 40% lower than that of 2700X. Or if you want 2700X is around 66,7% stronger than 8600(k).
So, you can guess where value and longevity is.
2700x same clocks as 8600k yet again for gamers 8600k delivers about 10FPS more. At the same price.
Can't say where you got that number from, but in games on 1080p and higher those mentioned CPUs deliver almost same frame rate. (mostly within 2%)
What you stated could have been somewhat be said about 4C/4T CPUs too. Till that statement became "WTF". Now you can only guess if next one to kick bucket for high fps gaming is 4C/8T or 6C/6T.
Anyway, 8600(k) total performance is around 40% lower than that of 2700X. Or if you want 2700X is around 66,7% stronger than 8600(k).
So, you can guess where value and longevity is.
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#5539360 Posted on: 04/20/2018 04:08 PM
Exactly. In fact I wonder why people would even overclock Ryzen if (as with the first gen) it means turning off the sophisticated XFR / boost functions. AMD put a lot of work into those features, which give you CPU horsepower when you need it and nice cool operation otherwise. Having all cores at top speed all the time is so 2008. If you aren't running benchmarks or some other completely demanding task where watts don't matter, worrying about OC on Ryzen seems wrongheaded.
I'd encourage Hilbert to discuss or at least mention the negatives.
... considering the 2700X will reach 4.35 on a single thread all by itself with XFR2, I fail to see the benefit of the extra one core 50 MHz as well.
Exactly. In fact I wonder why people would even overclock Ryzen if (as with the first gen) it means turning off the sophisticated XFR / boost functions. AMD put a lot of work into those features, which give you CPU horsepower when you need it and nice cool operation otherwise. Having all cores at top speed all the time is so 2008. If you aren't running benchmarks or some other completely demanding task where watts don't matter, worrying about OC on Ryzen seems wrongheaded.
I'd encourage Hilbert to discuss or at least mention the negatives.
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#5539366 Posted on: 04/20/2018 04:16 PM
So buy Intel and get that 95 FPS instead of 85 - in some game you won't play for more than an hour anyway. And give up all the multithread value. Of course then you're voting for stagnation in the CPU market, so 5 years from now the chips available to you will be much worse than if AMD was still in the fight. But you saw FRAPS ramp up there... what a thrill.
2700x same clocks as 8600k yet again for gamers 8600k delivers about 10FPS more. At the same price.
So buy Intel and get that 95 FPS instead of 85 - in some game you won't play for more than an hour anyway. And give up all the multithread value. Of course then you're voting for stagnation in the CPU market, so 5 years from now the chips available to you will be much worse than if AMD was still in the fight. But you saw FRAPS ramp up there... what a thrill.
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#5539368 Posted on: 04/20/2018 04:22 PM
Really there are more gains to be had by overclocking and tweaking RAM timings as far as Ryzen goes.
Really there are more gains to be had by overclocking and tweaking RAM timings as far as Ryzen goes.
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2700x same clocks as 8600k yet again for gamers 8600k delivers about 10FPS more. At the same price.