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#5121171 Posted on: 07/13/2015 02:42 PM
We balance old and new titles. BTW you do not mention we use GTA-V, The Witcher III, Battlefield Hardline, Alien Isolation and Middle Earth Shadow Mordor.
Also the titles you propose are from Ubisoft, I always have issues with their DRM stuff and launchers. Last time I tried I could not even login anymore. So Ubi titles are a no-go.
We balance old and new titles. BTW you do not mention we use GTA-V, The Witcher III, Battlefield Hardline, Alien Isolation and Middle Earth Shadow Mordor.
Also the titles you propose are from Ubisoft, I always have issues with their DRM stuff and launchers. Last time I tried I could not even login anymore. So Ubi titles are a no-go.
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#5121174 Posted on: 07/13/2015 02:51 PM
That was just my honest opinion. Ubisoft games are unoptimized so in order to push high frame rates in those titles you need have high and raw processing power which only newer gen. of gpu's posses. Anyway thumbs up for review.
We balance old and new titles. BTW you do not mention we use GTA-V, The Witcher III, Battlefield Hardline, Alien Isolation and Middle Earth Shadow Mordor.
That was just my honest opinion. Ubisoft games are unoptimized so in order to push high frame rates in those titles you need have high and raw processing power which only newer gen. of gpu's posses. Anyway thumbs up for review.
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#5121178 Posted on: 07/13/2015 02:56 PM
Unoptimized means inconsistent results. Thats the last thing you want for a benchmark.
That was just my honest opinion. Ubisoft games are unoptimized so in order to push high frame rates in those titles you need have high and raw processing power which only newer gen. of gpu's posses. Anyway thumbs up for review.
Unoptimized means inconsistent results. Thats the last thing you want for a benchmark.
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#5121184 Posted on: 07/13/2015 03:04 PM
Anybody who wants to go AMD should stick with this rather than the Fury X. Form factor, price/performance ratio etc. are way better.
It's kind of a weird release though, as Hilbert pointed out, it's like AMD is purposely trying to sabotage itself with this behavior.
Anybody who wants to go AMD should stick with this rather than the Fury X. Form factor, price/performance ratio etc. are way better.
It's kind of a weird release though, as Hilbert pointed out, it's like AMD is purposely trying to sabotage itself with this behavior.
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#5121192 Posted on: 07/13/2015 03:12 PM
I'm ordering 2 of this cards for my main rig.
I'm ordering 2 of this cards for my main rig.
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#5121195 Posted on: 07/13/2015 03:15 PM
If I was deciding between this and a 980, I'd choose the Fury. Seems like AMD is on the right track with this technology. With a die shrink and double the memory the Fury line will be able to go head and head with Nvidia.
If I was deciding between this and a 980, I'd choose the Fury. Seems like AMD is on the right track with this technology. With a die shrink and double the memory the Fury line will be able to go head and head with Nvidia.
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#5121200 Posted on: 07/13/2015 03:21 PM
Why would a customer save 100$ over a 980ti for this hardware?
~450$ should be the right price.
Why would a customer save 100$ over a 980ti for this hardware?
~450$ should be the right price.
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#5121208 Posted on: 07/13/2015 03:32 PM
We balance old and new titles. BTW you do not mention we use GTA-V, The Witcher III, Battlefield Hardline, Alien Isolation and Middle Earth Shadow Mordor.
Also the titles you propose are from Ubisoft, I always have issues with their DRM stuff and launchers. Last time I tried I could not even login anymore. So Ubi titles are a no-go.
Good, ubifail deserve even your middle finger...
Now, you done so much testing it just awesome, i hope you will have time soon to do the Kepler downgrade myth test, to see once and for all how and if nvidia neglected kepler.
We balance old and new titles. BTW you do not mention we use GTA-V, The Witcher III, Battlefield Hardline, Alien Isolation and Middle Earth Shadow Mordor.
Also the titles you propose are from Ubisoft, I always have issues with their DRM stuff and launchers. Last time I tried I could not even login anymore. So Ubi titles are a no-go.
Good, ubifail deserve even your middle finger...
Now, you done so much testing it just awesome, i hope you will have time soon to do the Kepler downgrade myth test, to see once and for all how and if nvidia neglected kepler.
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#5121214 Posted on: 07/13/2015 03:43 PM
Of course...AMD as usual is the company taking the risks and pushing the envelope--nVidia as usual is the company relying chiefly on pushing frame-rate bar charts & benchmarks to push the products it continues to milk. Often with a new-architecture product like the Fury you are buying potential as well as current performance & IQ, whereas the older products have already been through the wringer and what you get now is all you will ever get from them...
It also doesn't matter what DX12 level a given card claims to support, what matters is how well it supports what it claims to support (that goes for both companies, of course.)
Hopefully after Win10 officially ships at the end of the month we'll be getting some d3d12 demos from both AMD & nVidia...!
If I was deciding between this and a 980, I'd choose the Fury. Seems like AMD is on the right track with this technology. With a die shrink and double the memory the Fury line will be able to go head and head with Nvidia.
Of course...AMD as usual is the company taking the risks and pushing the envelope--nVidia as usual is the company relying chiefly on pushing frame-rate bar charts & benchmarks to push the products it continues to milk. Often with a new-architecture product like the Fury you are buying potential as well as current performance & IQ, whereas the older products have already been through the wringer and what you get now is all you will ever get from them...
It also doesn't matter what DX12 level a given card claims to support, what matters is how well it supports what it claims to support (that goes for both companies, of course.)
Hopefully after Win10 officially ships at the end of the month we'll be getting some d3d12 demos from both AMD & nVidia...!
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#5121220 Posted on: 07/13/2015 03:52 PM
With the exception of the Titan, AMD is already head-to-head with nvidia, in a performance perspective. That's exactly why the Fury X was so underwhelming - basically both that and the 980 Ti are roughly equal (or will be, when AMD updates their drivers). The Fury is a much more interesting GPU, because it's supposed to compete with the 980, but it meddles with 980 Ti territory too.
In terms of hardware, all AMD needs to do is get some 8GB HBM and a die shrink, which would hopefully result in less cooling power required. Once they do that, they've got a pretty solid product.
If I was deciding between this and a 980, I'd choose the Fury. Seems like AMD is on the right track with this technology. With a die shrink and double the memory the Fury line will be able to go head and head with Nvidia.
With the exception of the Titan, AMD is already head-to-head with nvidia, in a performance perspective. That's exactly why the Fury X was so underwhelming - basically both that and the 980 Ti are roughly equal (or will be, when AMD updates their drivers). The Fury is a much more interesting GPU, because it's supposed to compete with the 980, but it meddles with 980 Ti territory too.
In terms of hardware, all AMD needs to do is get some 8GB HBM and a die shrink, which would hopefully result in less cooling power required. Once they do that, they've got a pretty solid product.
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#5121229 Posted on: 07/13/2015 04:00 PM
I wonder what we'll see in the future, as by going by previous ATi/AMD product names, a "Fury XT" which could feature upgraded ROP count for example. I can totally see it happening.
I've said it before that these releases seem just like stop-gap measures and going by past releases from ATI and AMD, we've often seen cards released by them that perform lower than expected and then a few months later launch absoloutly fantastic cards and we can date this back to for example the ye olde 9000 series and each successive series, although the 2000 series kinda saw that trend get swapped around, where they released the upgraded chip as a new generation (the 3000 series).
Regardless of the speculation though, these cards do show promise and longevity too.
I wonder what we'll see in the future, as by going by previous ATi/AMD product names, a "Fury XT" which could feature upgraded ROP count for example. I can totally see it happening.
I've said it before that these releases seem just like stop-gap measures and going by past releases from ATI and AMD, we've often seen cards released by them that perform lower than expected and then a few months later launch absoloutly fantastic cards and we can date this back to for example the ye olde 9000 series and each successive series, although the 2000 series kinda saw that trend get swapped around, where they released the upgraded chip as a new generation (the 3000 series).
Regardless of the speculation though, these cards do show promise and longevity too.
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#5121244 Posted on: 07/13/2015 04:27 PM
Of course...AMD as usual is the company taking the risks and pushing the envelope--nVidia as usual is the company relying chiefly on pushing frame-rate bar charts & benchmarks to push the products it continues to milk. Often with a new-architecture product like the Fury you are buying potential as well as current performance & IQ, whereas the older products have already been through the wringer and what you get now is all you will ever get from them... It also doesn't matter what DX12 level a given card claims to support, what matters is how well it supports what it claims to support (that goes for both companies, of course.)
Hopefully after Win10 officially ships at the end of the month we'll be getting some d3d12 demos from both AMD & nVidia...!
Although I agree with you and prefer AMD, it seems clear that NVidia's way of doing things works better. (They are making a lot more money.) Oh, and thank you for the review Hilbert.
Of course...AMD as usual is the company taking the risks and pushing the envelope--nVidia as usual is the company relying chiefly on pushing frame-rate bar charts & benchmarks to push the products it continues to milk. Often with a new-architecture product like the Fury you are buying potential as well as current performance & IQ, whereas the older products have already been through the wringer and what you get now is all you will ever get from them...
It also doesn't matter what DX12 level a given card claims to support, what matters is how well it supports what it claims to support (that goes for both companies, of course.)
Hopefully after Win10 officially ships at the end of the month we'll be getting some d3d12 demos from both AMD & nVidia...!
Although I agree with you and prefer AMD, it seems clear that NVidia's way of doing things works better. (They are making a lot more money.) Oh, and thank you for the review Hilbert.
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#5121246 Posted on: 07/13/2015 04:32 PM
Looks like we have a 1440p king if the prices are @GTX980 level. Good for AMD!
Looks like we have a 1440p king if the prices are @GTX980 level. Good for AMD!
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#5121247 Posted on: 07/13/2015 04:33 PM
Great review , and a good read , AMD I think has found a good spot with this card and i wish them luck .
I just wish ,,and would of loved to have seen 8gb hbm card and the impact that would have at 2560x1440 and higher resolutions if any
Its just that 4gb of vram that niggles me .
Im now waiting to see what the UK prices are going to be .
Great review , and a good read , AMD I think has found a good spot with this card and i wish them luck .
I just wish ,,and would of loved to have seen 8gb hbm card and the impact that would have at 2560x1440 and higher resolutions if any
Its just that 4gb of vram that niggles me .
Im now waiting to see what the UK prices are going to be .
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I think you should begin to test newer/ better known titles,. Tomb raider ,thief ,bioshock infinite are old games not suited for today's needed processing power. Titles better suited and demanding are Far cry 4 ,Assassins creed unity + other titles I can't recall right now.