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#5634457 Posted on: 02/02/2019 06:40 AM
Agree .....Still funny how fast tec/time fly by......A 980ti is now a budget card....206x did that...
I wonder if there will be a 2060ti?
2 gens are more than enough in my humble opinion.
Agree .....Still funny how fast tec/time fly by......A 980ti is now a budget card....206x did that...
I wonder if there will be a 2060ti?
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#5634520 Posted on: 02/02/2019 12:03 PM
Agree .....Still funny how fast tec/time fly by......A 980ti is now a budget card....206x did that...
I wonder if there will be a 2060ti?
Probably not. 2060 is already too close to 2070, performance wise and price.
Agree .....Still funny how fast tec/time fly by......A 980ti is now a budget card....206x did that...
I wonder if there will be a 2060ti?
Probably not. 2060 is already too close to 2070, performance wise and price.
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#5634527 Posted on: 02/02/2019 12:28 PM
Also, RTX 2060 destroys GTX 980ti hard and they are both 6gb, one extra reason for reviewer to drop the whole GTX 9 series once for all it's useless.
Also, RTX 2060 destroys GTX 980ti hard and they are both 6gb, one extra reason for reviewer to drop the whole GTX 9 series once for all it's useless.
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#5634661 Posted on: 02/02/2019 08:57 PM
Anyway, @Hilbert Hagedoorn, I believe reviewers and particularly Guru3d as I care about the best, you should place a time limit in products aging.
I do not find any reason for R9 series, including 3XX and Fury, but also GTX 9 series or earlier to be included anymore. 3-4years time is OK I think.
Again some one advocating for less data to be included in the benchmark section. Ridiculous. IMO the more the merrier.
The older the card is that some has the more likely it is they consider upgrading it.
Anyway, @Hilbert Hagedoorn, I believe reviewers and particularly Guru3d as I care about the best, you should place a time limit in products aging.
I do not find any reason for R9 series, including 3XX and Fury, but also GTX 9 series or earlier to be included anymore. 3-4years time is OK I think.
Again some one advocating for less data to be included in the benchmark section. Ridiculous. IMO the more the merrier.
The older the card is that some has the more likely it is they consider upgrading it.
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#5634701 Posted on: 02/02/2019 10:55 PM
In Australia all the 2060's are priced at where the 2070's should be...... wtf.. these prices are so messed up.
In Australia all the 2060's are priced at where the 2070's should be...... wtf.. these prices are so messed up.
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#5634762 Posted on: 02/03/2019 06:33 AM
It is the same thing in Canada. The cards are all 500-550, and that is before tax. After tax, that is 560-620. That is just brutal for a cut down TU106, which is a low end chip.
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=rtx+2060&ignorear=0&N=-1&isNodeId=1
It is the same thing in Canada. The cards are all 500-550, and that is before tax. After tax, that is 560-620. That is just brutal for a cut down TU106, which is a low end chip.
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=rtx+2060&ignorear=0&N=-1&isNodeId=1
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#5635017 Posted on: 02/04/2019 12:04 AM
It is the same thing in Canada. The cards are all 500-550, and that is before tax. After tax, that is 560-620. That is just brutal for a cut down TU106, which is a low end chip.
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=rtx+2060&ignorear=0&N=-1&isNodeId=1
Where do you get that TU106 is a "low end" chip?
It is the same thing in Canada. The cards are all 500-550, and that is before tax. After tax, that is 560-620. That is just brutal for a cut down TU106, which is a low end chip.
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=rtx+2060&ignorear=0&N=-1&isNodeId=1
Where do you get that TU106 is a "low end" chip?
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#5635032 Posted on: 02/04/2019 01:34 AM
XX106 is low end. XX104 is midrange. XX102 is high end. Nvidia has been ripping people off, and charging high end prices for midrange chips since the GTX 680.
XX106 is low end. XX104 is midrange. XX102 is high end. Nvidia has been ripping people off, and charging high end prices for midrange chips since the GTX 680.
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#5635212 Posted on: 02/04/2019 01:55 PM
The TU106 has the same number of Cuda cores as the GP104 in the 1070, plus it has RT cores and Tensor cores. Please stop paying any attention to the chip code Though this is the third largest die in the Turning line its still much more than a "low-end" GPU.
XX106 is low end. XX104 is midrange. XX102 is high end. Nvidia has been ripping people off, and charging high end prices for midrange chips since the GTX 680.
The TU106 has the same number of Cuda cores as the GP104 in the 1070, plus it has RT cores and Tensor cores. Please stop paying any attention to the chip code Though this is the third largest die in the Turning line its still much more than a "low-end" GPU.
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#5636214 Posted on: 02/06/2019 04:18 PM
Considering a card like the 2060 can perform near 1070 ti and even 1080 levels in some cases, I'd say that's not ripping anyone off.
XX106 is low end. XX104 is midrange. XX102 is high end. Nvidia has been ripping people off, and charging high end prices for midrange chips since the GTX 680.
Considering a card like the 2060 can perform near 1070 ti and even 1080 levels in some cases, I'd say that's not ripping anyone off.
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#5636217 Posted on: 02/06/2019 04:24 PM
Good performing card. The one possible neg would be the 6gb mem. A year or two this could be an issue in some games.
Good performing card. The one possible neg would be the 6gb mem. A year or two this could be an issue in some games.
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#5636222 Posted on: 02/06/2019 04:33 PM
For 1080p I can't see this being an issue, but DLSS should help as well with this in the meantime.
Good performing card. The one possible neg would be the 6gb mem. A year or two this could be an issue in some games.
For 1080p I can't see this being an issue, but DLSS should help as well with this in the meantime.
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#5636359 Posted on: 02/06/2019 09:48 PM
Anyway, @Hilbert Hagedoorn, I believe reviewers and particularly Guru3d as I care about the best, you should place a time limit in products aging.
I do not find any reason for R9 series, including 3XX and Fury, but also GTX 9 series or earlier to be included anymore. 3-4years time is OK I think.
It is not about time limit. If you have decade of intel's CPUs with minimal improvements each generation, it is reasonable to show that there is very small reason to upgrade.
Same goes for GPUs. Time is bad measurement tool for something considered "old" in technology.
Once GPU is made obsolete by entry level GPU of current Generation, it may be removed from being tested with next generation.
For example, GTX 1050 as entry level performance made quite a few older enthusiast level GPUs obsolete. Those are not needed in comparison with RTX 20X0 series.
And that what falls under lowest of current generation is not needed in graphs once next generation pops in.
= = = =
But real question is: What is current entry-level? $350 RTX 2060 is not (due to its price tag). Is it GTX 1160? Or is there going to be GTX 1150?
With example above, there are 8 cards in Witcher 3 benchmark under GTX 1050 which could be considered obsolete in RTX 20X0 generation.
But if done by time, then manufacturer with greatest number of rebrands gets greatest coverage.
= = = =
That's why I consider reasonable to see last generation entry level GPU (baseline) and anything above it for comparison to current generation.
(Have you seen GTX Titan there? I bet you see value in knowing its performance against R9-390X or GTX 1060/RTX 2060.)
Anyway, @Hilbert Hagedoorn, I believe reviewers and particularly Guru3d as I care about the best, you should place a time limit in products aging.
I do not find any reason for R9 series, including 3XX and Fury, but also GTX 9 series or earlier to be included anymore. 3-4years time is OK I think.
It is not about time limit. If you have decade of intel's CPUs with minimal improvements each generation, it is reasonable to show that there is very small reason to upgrade.
Same goes for GPUs. Time is bad measurement tool for something considered "old" in technology.
Once GPU is made obsolete by entry level GPU of current Generation, it may be removed from being tested with next generation.
For example, GTX 1050 as entry level performance made quite a few older enthusiast level GPUs obsolete. Those are not needed in comparison with RTX 20X0 series.
And that what falls under lowest of current generation is not needed in graphs once next generation pops in.
= = = =
But real question is: What is current entry-level? $350 RTX 2060 is not (due to its price tag). Is it GTX 1160? Or is there going to be GTX 1150?
With example above, there are 8 cards in Witcher 3 benchmark under GTX 1050 which could be considered obsolete in RTX 20X0 generation.
But if done by time, then manufacturer with greatest number of rebrands gets greatest coverage.
= = = =
That's why I consider reasonable to see last generation entry level GPU (baseline) and anything above it for comparison to current generation.
(Have you seen GTX Titan there? I bet you see value in knowing its performance against R9-390X or GTX 1060/RTX 2060.)
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You sure? My oced 980ti beat stock 1080 in benches back in the day.
Either way, it's close enough for a point of reference.