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#5817564 Posted on: 08/13/2020 03:41 PM
There are dGPU results... They're just not gray.
I wouldn't hold my breath for 4750G results, considering what he said about getting the 4650G.
Really? I think its just build in apu gpu results, not idk rtx2080.. because they're really low.
Edit, ah.. sorry , nvm im blind.
But strange to see 3600x being stronger by games, I thought lower latency will help more.. e.g. tombraider or battlefield. Or is it because normal ryzen has larger L3 cache?
There are dGPU results... They're just not gray.
I wouldn't hold my breath for 4750G results, considering what he said about getting the 4650G.
Really? I think its just build in apu gpu results, not idk rtx2080.. because they're really low.
Edit, ah.. sorry , nvm im blind.
But strange to see 3600x being stronger by games, I thought lower latency will help more.. e.g. tombraider or battlefield. Or is it because normal ryzen has larger L3 cache?
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#5817577 Posted on: 08/13/2020 04:33 PM
Really? I think its just build in apu gpu results, not idk rtx2080.. because they're really low.
Edit, ah.. sorry , nvm im blind.
But strange to see 3600x being stronger by games, I thought lower latency will help more.. e.g. tombraider or battlefield. Or is it because normal ryzen has larger L3 cache?
Unfortunately, size of L3 cache plays a bigger role, you may also notice that IF bandwidth is higher in 3600. There may be other undocumented hardware restrictions.
Really? I think its just build in apu gpu results, not idk rtx2080.. because they're really low.
Edit, ah.. sorry , nvm im blind.
But strange to see 3600x being stronger by games, I thought lower latency will help more.. e.g. tombraider or battlefield. Or is it because normal ryzen has larger L3 cache?
Unfortunately, size of L3 cache plays a bigger role, you may also notice that IF bandwidth is higher in 3600. There may be other undocumented hardware restrictions.
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#5817580 Posted on: 08/13/2020 04:39 PM
3600X is clocked higher, has a bigger cache, and doesn't have to share resources with an iGPU.
Better latency doesn't necessarily mean better performance either, so long as the latency isn't a bottleneck. It all depends on the workload.
But strange to see 3600x being stronger by games, I thought lower latency will help more.. e.g. tombraider or battlefield. Or is it because normal ryzen has larger L3 cache?
3600X is clocked higher, has a bigger cache, and doesn't have to share resources with an iGPU.
Better latency doesn't necessarily mean better performance either, so long as the latency isn't a bottleneck. It all depends on the workload.
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#5817585 Posted on: 08/13/2020 04:48 PM
3600X has higher boost clock. I also think AMD was very concerned about the desktop APUs being TOO good and cannibalizing their main Ryzen sales. Monolithic 8 core is going to cost AMD more to make than a CCX version due to the better yields needed to make mono 8 core, not even factoring in the iGPU. The last thing they want are gamers passing on cheaper to produce 3000 series for a 4000 series APU. For that reason the 3000 series had to remain performance king.
3600X has higher boost clock. I also think AMD was very concerned about the desktop APUs being TOO good and cannibalizing their main Ryzen sales. Monolithic 8 core is going to cost AMD more to make than a CCX version due to the better yields needed to make mono 8 core, not even factoring in the iGPU. The last thing they want are gamers passing on cheaper to produce 3000 series for a 4000 series APU. For that reason the 3000 series had to remain performance king.
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I see they also "fixed" back write speeds and latency is not too shabby either.
Edit:
@Hilbert Hagedoorn
Can you please add discrete gpu tests as well? Would greatly appreciate it,
Also is r7 pro 4750g in for review too?
Another interesting note is that latency went down from the semi tight CL14 3200