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#5456406 Posted on: 07/28/2017 02:30 AM
I very much hope they do not make any dual-core Ryzens. No need to stunt the future any more then Intel already has.
Personally, that's the problem right there.
Not only is a dual-core not fine for a grandma or library PC or any PC (due to the fact of how many things are going on in the background of a modern PC) but the mentality behind "just fine" is the problem, in my opinion.
The more and more people continue to say "Oh, well that person doesn't need much, so its understandable why they still produce (insert item here)" is exactly why companies go "Oh, so many people still use (insert item here), might as well not fully support anything else"
This is why i really hope AMD is done with dual-core processors. If they aren't made, and if intel follows along, then maybe, just maybe, developers won't say "Well, 90% of our users only use dual-core, so lets not worry about letting it use, efficiently, anything more then 2 cores"
First of all, there are loads of assumptions here.
We're at an age where we're browsing the Internet on our cell phones and editing documents on our tablets. A modern desktop dual-core is vastly more powerful than whatever a mobile phone has to offer, so it will do fine. You talk as if background tasks in a modern PC warrant a quad-core. They do not. They never will.
Second of all, not everyone who's buying a CPU runs Windows or is browsing the Internet, editing documents, or playing games. It would be lovely to have a dual-core with a sufficient GPU for a media PC - the lower cost, along with lower power consumption would still realize a PC strong enough to handle video content. Another use would be a storage server - if all you do is transfer files over a LAN, even with 10Gbit Ethernet, why would you need anything more than a low-power dual-core?
Why would we not have available dual-core processors half the price of this? I don't see the point. It's not like Intel's ~$45 Celeron dual-cores stifle technology, do they? I'm glad the option exists - my media PC is currently running a Pentium G3220 and that's doing way more than fine for what uses the PC sees.
Some software only runs on x86 which is why it is still useful to have a low-power x86 platform that runs such. x86 emulation on ARM has been claimed by Microsoft to be almost as good as the real thing - but we still have not seen the fruit of that labor.
Thus, I hope you mean dual-cores ala i3 - those have to die with the price points Intel have been peddling them at.
I very much hope they do not make any dual-core Ryzens. No need to stunt the future any more then Intel already has.
Personally, that's the problem right there.
Not only is a dual-core not fine for a grandma or library PC or any PC (due to the fact of how many things are going on in the background of a modern PC) but the mentality behind "just fine" is the problem, in my opinion.
The more and more people continue to say "Oh, well that person doesn't need much, so its understandable why they still produce (insert item here)" is exactly why companies go "Oh, so many people still use (insert item here), might as well not fully support anything else"
This is why i really hope AMD is done with dual-core processors. If they aren't made, and if intel follows along, then maybe, just maybe, developers won't say "Well, 90% of our users only use dual-core, so lets not worry about letting it use, efficiently, anything more then 2 cores"
First of all, there are loads of assumptions here.
We're at an age where we're browsing the Internet on our cell phones and editing documents on our tablets. A modern desktop dual-core is vastly more powerful than whatever a mobile phone has to offer, so it will do fine. You talk as if background tasks in a modern PC warrant a quad-core. They do not. They never will.
Second of all, not everyone who's buying a CPU runs Windows or is browsing the Internet, editing documents, or playing games. It would be lovely to have a dual-core with a sufficient GPU for a media PC - the lower cost, along with lower power consumption would still realize a PC strong enough to handle video content. Another use would be a storage server - if all you do is transfer files over a LAN, even with 10Gbit Ethernet, why would you need anything more than a low-power dual-core?
Why would we not have available dual-core processors half the price of this? I don't see the point. It's not like Intel's ~$45 Celeron dual-cores stifle technology, do they? I'm glad the option exists - my media PC is currently running a Pentium G3220 and that's doing way more than fine for what uses the PC sees.
Some software only runs on x86 which is why it is still useful to have a low-power x86 platform that runs such. x86 emulation on ARM has been claimed by Microsoft to be almost as good as the real thing - but we still have not seen the fruit of that labor.
Thus, I hope you mean dual-cores ala i3 - those have to die with the price points Intel have been peddling them at.
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#5456498 Posted on: 07/28/2017 11:20 AM
You're a reputable hardware review website though. Don't see what they got to lose... unless they expect to be unfair towards the competition.
Anyhow, great and thorough review (as always).
Can't wait for the A-series to be released!
Yeah, Intel has always categorically refused to send out i3 procs for review. Can't help it. But I agree on the IGP, it's a bit of a miss in the segment.
You're a reputable hardware review website though. Don't see what they got to lose... unless they expect to be unfair towards the competition.
Anyhow, great and thorough review (as always).
Can't wait for the A-series to be released!
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#5456516 Posted on: 07/28/2017 12:09 PM
I may buy/build a cheap Ryzen setup just to do it. My i7 isn't getting replaced yet though. Maybe Bristol...
I may buy/build a cheap Ryzen setup just to do it. My i7 isn't getting replaced yet though. Maybe Bristol...
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#5473977 Posted on: 09/21/2017 11:53 AM
I agree remove x86 dual - core it is power usage is not significant for large compute workloads. 32 core with nice ram disk & tb ssds is the future. For everything else ARM is better. then even library should be folding a protien or some shit lol you could host a battlefield 1942 mod with a business line stream pandora and twitch shit for trendy mofos wtf. gg all while cryptomining and compiling a kernel.
fantasy land tho folks cuz they still give you single channel ram on your laptop.
This 1300x looks good for trying the new the memory controller compared to my machine thanks for benchmark!
I agree remove x86 dual - core it is power usage is not significant for large compute workloads. 32 core with nice ram disk & tb ssds is the future. For everything else ARM is better. then even library should be folding a protien or some shit lol you could host a battlefield 1942 mod with a business line stream pandora and twitch shit for trendy mofos wtf. gg all while cryptomining and compiling a kernel.
fantasy land tho folks cuz they still give you single channel ram on your laptop.
This 1300x looks good for trying the new the memory controller compared to my machine thanks for benchmark!
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I agree with Venix.
You should stick with what you've got, a Ryzen 3 isn't a worthy upgrade. An overclocked Ryzen 1400 would overall be an upgrade. If you're on a budget, I'd say the most cost effective solution would be to buy a used i7 4770K.