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#5456211 Posted on: 07/27/2017 05:37 PM
Anyway, a dual core with HT/SMT is still very usable by today's standards. Not good enough for power users, but they're just fine for grandma or a library PC.
Personally, that's the problem right there.
Not only is a dual-core not fine for a grandma or library PC or any PC (due to the fact of how many things are going on in the background of a modern PC) but the mentality behind "just fine" is the problem, in my opinion.
The more and more people continue to say "Oh, well that person doesn't need much, so its understandable why they still produce (insert item here)" is exactly why companies go "Oh, so many people still use (insert item here), might as well not fully support anything else"
This is why i really hope AMD is done with dual-core processors. If they aren't made, and if intel follows along, then maybe, just maybe, developers won't say "Well, 90% of our users only use dual-core, so lets not worry about letting it use, efficiently, anything more then 2 cores"
Anyway, a dual core with HT/SMT is still very usable by today's standards. Not good enough for power users, but they're just fine for grandma or a library PC.
Personally, that's the problem right there.
Not only is a dual-core not fine for a grandma or library PC or any PC (due to the fact of how many things are going on in the background of a modern PC) but the mentality behind "just fine" is the problem, in my opinion.
The more and more people continue to say "Oh, well that person doesn't need much, so its understandable why they still produce (insert item here)" is exactly why companies go "Oh, so many people still use (insert item here), might as well not fully support anything else"
This is why i really hope AMD is done with dual-core processors. If they aren't made, and if intel follows along, then maybe, just maybe, developers won't say "Well, 90% of our users only use dual-core, so lets not worry about letting it use, efficiently, anything more then 2 cores"
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#5456215 Posted on: 07/27/2017 05:45 PM
Ok, I'll revise my statement: a dual core (with HT/SMT, mind you) is plenty sufficient for grandma or a library PC. A plain dual core without logical threads would be "just adequate", but you'd be pushing its limits and might get some hiccups once in a while. I assure you, it is easily feasible to have a snappy smooth experience on a 2c/4t CPU.
I get that, and that's a valid point. But you have to keep in mind that up until a couple years ago, the average person couldn't afford a decent quad core, with or without HT. For some people here, getting an i5 was a big investment. Remember too that most PC sales are laptops or limited-functionality office PCs. Even today, most laptops are still dual cores, for efficiency reasons. Only now are developers actually taking a hard look at adding more threads to their tasks, because only recently has the average person had access to an abundance of threads.
Not only is a dual-core not fine for a grandma or library PC or any PC (due to the fact of how many things are going on in the background of a modern PC) but the mentality behind "just fine" is the problem, in my opinion.
Ok, I'll revise my statement: a dual core (with HT/SMT, mind you) is plenty sufficient for grandma or a library PC. A plain dual core without logical threads would be "just adequate", but you'd be pushing its limits and might get some hiccups once in a while. I assure you, it is easily feasible to have a snappy smooth experience on a 2c/4t CPU.
The more and more people continue to say "Oh, well that person doesn't need much, so its understandable why they still produce (insert item here)" is exactly why companies go "Oh, so many people still use (insert item here), might as well not fully support anything else"
I get that, and that's a valid point. But you have to keep in mind that up until a couple years ago, the average person couldn't afford a decent quad core, with or without HT. For some people here, getting an i5 was a big investment. Remember too that most PC sales are laptops or limited-functionality office PCs. Even today, most laptops are still dual cores, for efficiency reasons. Only now are developers actually taking a hard look at adding more threads to their tasks, because only recently has the average person had access to an abundance of threads.
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#5456384 Posted on: 07/28/2017 01:34 AM
Hi all
Just a quick question. I've got i5 4690k overclocked to 4.6Ghz which I'm using mainly for gaming.
I'm getting score of 709 in cinebench. Would Ryzen 3 1300x be a downgrade to my current system? I would rather not buy high frequency memory + motherboard + CPU...
On the other hand, these processors seem awesome for those that are building from scratch.
Thanks all!
Hi all
Just a quick question. I've got i5 4690k overclocked to 4.6Ghz which I'm using mainly for gaming.
I'm getting score of 709 in cinebench. Would Ryzen 3 1300x be a downgrade to my current system? I would rather not buy high frequency memory + motherboard + CPU...
On the other hand, these processors seem awesome for those that are building from scratch.
Thanks all!
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#5456391 Posted on: 07/28/2017 02:09 AM
Hi all
Just a quick question. I've got i5 4690k overclocked to 4.6Ghz which I'm using mainly for gaming.
I'm getting score of 709 in cinebench. Would Ryzen 3 1300x be a downgrade to my current system? I would rather not buy high frequency memory + motherboard + CPU...
On the other hand, these processors seem awesome for those that are building from scratch.
Thanks all!
it might even be a slight downgrade ....at the very best it will be a side-grade
so no personally i do not advice to pay for a new cpu +new motherboard + new ram keep your 4690 at 4.6 or aim for the 1600 mind you that even if you get the 1600 you will need a card like 1070 at least to see any meaningful difference in gaming or monitor a bit the used market some used 4770k or 4790k on reasonable price might be a good deal
Hi all
Just a quick question. I've got i5 4690k overclocked to 4.6Ghz which I'm using mainly for gaming.
I'm getting score of 709 in cinebench. Would Ryzen 3 1300x be a downgrade to my current system? I would rather not buy high frequency memory + motherboard + CPU...
On the other hand, these processors seem awesome for those that are building from scratch.
Thanks all!
it might even be a slight downgrade ....at the very best it will be a side-grade
so no personally i do not advice to pay for a new cpu +new motherboard + new ram keep your 4690 at 4.6 or aim for the 1600 mind you that even if you get the 1600 you will need a card like 1070 at least to see any meaningful difference in gaming or monitor a bit the used market some used 4770k or 4790k on reasonable price might be a good deal
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Seems like a leftover statement from earlier Ryzen articles (in the Base Specs part of the review).