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Review: AMD Ryzen 3 1200 and 1300X - Entry Level Going Quad Core
Entry level processors, going quad-core. Yes AMD is at it again with their Ryzen 3 series processors, in this review we test their Ryzen 3 1200 and 1300X. That means you can gain a significant number in proc performance, yet remain in the lowest price bracket. And tweaked a bit, that even is mainstream performance for low-end prices!
Read our full review here.
Review: NZXT Kraken X42 - 07/24/2017 12:28 PM
We review the NZXT Kraken X42 Series Liquid cooler, the little brethren of that X62 we reviewed. The smaller model is nearly as good as its big brother though. This revision CPU cooler is compatible w...
Review: ASUS ROG STRIX X299-E Gaming - 07/20/2017 09:00 AM
We check that €349,- enthusiast class X299-E Gaming motherboard, yes the ASUS ROG STRIX. A nice looking motherboard in dark theme offering nice features, design and of course performance. Thi...
Review: HP S700 Pro 512GB SSD - 07/18/2017 09:30 AM
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Review: Core i5 7640X - 07/12/2017 09:21 AM
In this review we'll show you the performance the 242 USD quad core Core i5 7640X from Intel offers. This 242 USD Kaby Lake-X processor is the the most affordable one for the X299 platform. But witho...
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#5456188 Posted on: 07/27/2017 04:49 PM
Wow some of the gaming improvements are impressive. R7 now officially back on my radar.
Wow some of the gaming improvements are impressive. R7 now officially back on my radar.
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#5456189 Posted on: 07/27/2017 04:54 PM
These performed better than I was expecting, but aside from home servers or 4K HTPCs, I don't really see the point in these. Whatever desktop needs these could fulfill, an APU would be a better fit. I have a feeling SMT is artificially disabled in order to justify their performance tier and price level. Here's what I think should've been done instead:
Ryzen 5 would only have hex core and quad core CPUs with SMT, both CCXs, and all 16MB of L3.
Ryzen 3 would be quad cores and dual cores with SMT, but utilize only 1 CCX (and as a result, would have to have 8MB of L3).
These performed better than I was expecting, but aside from home servers or 4K HTPCs, I don't really see the point in these. Whatever desktop needs these could fulfill, an APU would be a better fit. I have a feeling SMT is artificially disabled in order to justify their performance tier and price level. Here's what I think should've been done instead:
Ryzen 5 would only have hex core and quad core CPUs with SMT, both CCXs, and all 16MB of L3.
Ryzen 3 would be quad cores and dual cores with SMT, but utilize only 1 CCX (and as a result, would have to have 8MB of L3).
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#5456196 Posted on: 07/27/2017 05:10 PM
These performed better than I was expecting, but aside from home servers or 4K HTPCs, I don't really see the point in these. Whatever desktop needs these could fulfill, an APU would be a better fit. I have a feeling SMT is artificially disabled in order to justify their performance tier and price level. Here's what I think should've been done instead:
Ryzen 5 would only have hex core and quad core CPUs with SMT, both CCXs, and all 16MB of L3.
Ryzen 3 would be quad cores and dual cores with SMT, but utilize only 1 CCX (and as a result, would have to have 8MB of L3).
I very much hope they do not make any dual-core Ryzens. No need to stunt the future any more then Intel already has.
These performed better than I was expecting, but aside from home servers or 4K HTPCs, I don't really see the point in these. Whatever desktop needs these could fulfill, an APU would be a better fit. I have a feeling SMT is artificially disabled in order to justify their performance tier and price level. Here's what I think should've been done instead:
Ryzen 5 would only have hex core and quad core CPUs with SMT, both CCXs, and all 16MB of L3.
Ryzen 3 would be quad cores and dual cores with SMT, but utilize only 1 CCX (and as a result, would have to have 8MB of L3).
I very much hope they do not make any dual-core Ryzens. No need to stunt the future any more then Intel already has.
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#5456200 Posted on: 07/27/2017 05:15 PM
A dual core Ryzen would be kind of stupid, but if that's all they've got left working on the silicon then it becomes a situation of "might as well make it; it's just going to be trashed otherwise". This is why single-core Semprons and Celerons have existed - I don't think either company really expects anyone to buy them, but it's better to spend a little extra on packaging and maybe return some profit than to just throw it away. Products like these are useful for embedded devices anyway, like cash registers and POS machines. However, AMD never mentioned dual cores in their roadmap. I guess they figured that the probability of them being able to make a dual core without something else also being too damaged (such as the memory controller, infinity fabric, or L3 cache) would be too low and not worth the investment.
Anyway, a dual core with HT/SMT is still very usable by today's standards. Not good enough for power users, but they're just fine for grandma or a library PC.
It wouldn't surprise me if AMD releases a dual core desktop APU.
I very much hope they do not make any dual-core Ryzens. No need to stunt the future any more then Intel already has.
A dual core Ryzen would be kind of stupid, but if that's all they've got left working on the silicon then it becomes a situation of "might as well make it; it's just going to be trashed otherwise". This is why single-core Semprons and Celerons have existed - I don't think either company really expects anyone to buy them, but it's better to spend a little extra on packaging and maybe return some profit than to just throw it away. Products like these are useful for embedded devices anyway, like cash registers and POS machines. However, AMD never mentioned dual cores in their roadmap. I guess they figured that the probability of them being able to make a dual core without something else also being too damaged (such as the memory controller, infinity fabric, or L3 cache) would be too low and not worth the investment.
Anyway, a dual core with HT/SMT is still very usable by today's standards. Not good enough for power users, but they're just fine for grandma or a library PC.
It wouldn't surprise me if AMD releases a dual core desktop APU.
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AMD is shaking the CPU market really hard and thats good for us consumers. I have respect for AMD, rising from the ashes.