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Review: AMD Radeon VII (16GB)
Today is the day we may present you the benchmark review of the all new Radeon VII. VII as in fabricated on that 7nm node. The Radeon VII is a product that has been talked about for quite a while. With a die-shrink towards a 7nm fabricated package and 16GB of HBM2, the card is released in an aim to compete with the GeForce RTX 2080; will it be capable to do that?
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#5636691 Posted on: 02/07/2019 06:03 PM
SOLD OUT everywhere....
SOLD OUT everywhere....
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#5636694 Posted on: 02/07/2019 06:11 PM
51dB, basically loud as standing next to Elephant who just farted.
How loud?!
51dB, basically loud as standing next to Elephant who just farted.
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#5636695 Posted on: 02/07/2019 06:12 PM
I can have 5 tomorrow from 1st shop I just checked and their system updates values upon ordering.
SOLD OUT everywhere....
I can have 5 tomorrow from 1st shop I just checked and their system updates values upon ordering.
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#5636696 Posted on: 02/07/2019 06:12 PM
I think this card should do very well in newer games to come. Still hope AMD partners will be able to apply their custom packages to this card. New drivers should be out soon.
I think this card should do very well in newer games to come. Still hope AMD partners will be able to apply their custom packages to this card. New drivers should be out soon.
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#5636701 Posted on: 02/07/2019 06:25 PM
Have you tried contacting AMD to see if the current fan curve is a mistake?
Forgot to mention that, but the last thing of the review I do is to dissect the card for the component analysis. Obviously after finishing that I have removed the thermal pad and replaced it with the new NT-H2 thermal paste from Noctua. That did get the tempo down by 2 degrees, but it had no effect on acoustics.
Have you tried contacting AMD to see if the current fan curve is a mistake?
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#5636703 Posted on: 02/07/2019 06:26 PM
That's assuming AMD doesn't neglect it after Navi is released. Seeing as this is basically just a binned workstation/server GPU, I have a feeling most of the optimizations will be seen in CAD and compute tasks rather than gaming. That being said, this GPU currently outperforms the 2080Ti in a lot of cases for such tests, and sometimes by a wide margin (of course, in other tests, the 2080Ti also wins by a lot - it all depends on the application).
I think this card should do very well in newer games to come. Still hope AMD partners will be able to apply their custom packages to this card. New drivers should be out soon.
That's assuming AMD doesn't neglect it after Navi is released. Seeing as this is basically just a binned workstation/server GPU, I have a feeling most of the optimizations will be seen in CAD and compute tasks rather than gaming. That being said, this GPU currently outperforms the 2080Ti in a lot of cases for such tests, and sometimes by a wide margin (of course, in other tests, the 2080Ti also wins by a lot - it all depends on the application).
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#5636704 Posted on: 02/07/2019 06:28 PM
50+db and 300+w plus 700 squid. Not my cup of tea for a 7nm part to need that much juice.
The AIB cards will be better but like HH said 5-6 hundo not 700 because that's 2080 money.
I think the card will mature better as they up the generation of drivers.
50+db and 300+w plus 700 squid. Not my cup of tea for a 7nm part to need that much juice.
The AIB cards will be better but like HH said 5-6 hundo not 700 because that's 2080 money.
I think the card will mature better as they up the generation of drivers.
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#5636717 Posted on: 02/07/2019 07:11 PM
Im not sure if this was the right time to launch this. since drivers need work and there seems to be a real problem with this cooler. (read on 4 different sites now).
maybe they just launched it for the sake of launching.
Im not sure if this was the right time to launch this. since drivers need work and there seems to be a real problem with this cooler. (read on 4 different sites now).
maybe they just launched it for the sake of launching.
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#5636718 Posted on: 02/07/2019 07:13 PM
I love my 1080Ti , wish AMD the best.
I love my 1080Ti , wish AMD the best.
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#5636728 Posted on: 02/07/2019 07:33 PM
50+db and 300+w plus 700 squid. Not my cup of tea for a 7nm part to need that much juice.
The AIB cards will be better but like HH said 5-6 hundo not 700 because that's 2080 money.
I think the card will mature better as they up the generation of drivers.
The good ole GCN architecture is just not that efficient by today's standards and this die shrink really brings that point home. I have a feeling we won't see a ton of driver optimizations since this is basically a die shrunk Vega I can't fathom there is a lot of optimizations still left. So us gamers are still mostly waiting for Navi or for Nvidia's next generation. I am pretty happy with picking up a 1070 shortly after they came out however if I knew we would have this long of a drought I probably would snagged a 1080 albit the 1070 is playing BFV just fine at 2k.
50+db and 300+w plus 700 squid. Not my cup of tea for a 7nm part to need that much juice.
The AIB cards will be better but like HH said 5-6 hundo not 700 because that's 2080 money.
I think the card will mature better as they up the generation of drivers.
The good ole GCN architecture is just not that efficient by today's standards and this die shrink really brings that point home. I have a feeling we won't see a ton of driver optimizations since this is basically a die shrunk Vega I can't fathom there is a lot of optimizations still left. So us gamers are still mostly waiting for Navi or for Nvidia's next generation. I am pretty happy with picking up a 1070 shortly after they came out however if I knew we would have this long of a drought I probably would snagged a 1080 albit the 1070 is playing BFV just fine at 2k.
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#5636733 Posted on: 02/07/2019 07:40 PM
The ugly part: it is also outperformed by 1080Ti in a lot of tests - an chip that in this industry is "old" on a geological scale - with much higher power consumption and noise - for a 7 nm vs 14 nm this high power consumption is a bad surprise. The card is noisy (like nvidia FX noisy!!!) and also gets hot rather fast - this is also reported by other review sites...a little disappointing - this card does not exactly "trade blows" with nvidia offers - not even 1080Ti - and this is the bad thing but I will keep my trusty EVGA 980 Ti some more until Navi comes out - seems like it will be in July...
That's assuming AMD doesn't neglect it after Navi is released. Seeing as this is basically just a binned workstation/server GPU, I have a feeling most of the optimizations will be seen in CAD and compute tasks rather than gaming. That being said, this GPU currently outperforms the 2080Ti in a lot of cases for such tests, and sometimes by a wide margin (of course, in other tests, the 2080Ti also wins by a lot - it all depends on the application).
The ugly part: it is also outperformed by 1080Ti in a lot of tests - an chip that in this industry is "old" on a geological scale - with much higher power consumption and noise - for a 7 nm vs 14 nm this high power consumption is a bad surprise. The card is noisy (like nvidia FX noisy!!!) and also gets hot rather fast - this is also reported by other review sites...a little disappointing - this card does not exactly "trade blows" with nvidia offers - not even 1080Ti - and this is the bad thing but I will keep my trusty EVGA 980 Ti some more until Navi comes out - seems like it will be in July...
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#5636737 Posted on: 02/07/2019 07:46 PM
To my book, until Navi, AMD is only for their loyalists. No meaning in their products' lineup, in their gpu roster I mean. This is so sad.
To my book, until Navi, AMD is only for their loyalists. No meaning in their products' lineup, in their gpu roster I mean. This is so sad.
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#5636742 Posted on: 02/07/2019 07:55 PM
I mean results here show it trading blows at least, but why are we surprised that it's trading blows with the 1080ti when the 2080 itself trades blows with it if you don't count DLSS or RTX features?
I think people are setting their expectations a little high with the card, which to be fair AMD did kind of hype it up as well. That being said, in terms of any GPU tech Pascal arguably has been one of the most efficient core designs in years. It's going to be hard to beat that even from Nvidia themselves, which in raw performance has already shown this isn't easy. And then we have Radeon VII, which at the end of the day is still Vega. It's a die shrink, but the same Vega core and GCN design with a higher clocks and more memory bandwidth available as well as vram, and a lot of power pushed into it.
Where I think this card will accelerate as even first gen Vega has is DX12, which in hopes of competition for DLSS such as Direct ML coming, makes sense too.
The ugly part: it is also outperformed by 1080Ti in a lot of tests - an chip that in this industry is "old" on a geological scale - with much higher power consumption and noise - for a 7 nm vs 14 nm this high power consumption is a bad surprise. The card is noisy (like nvidia FX noisy!!!) and also gets hot rather fast - this is also reported by other review sites...a little disappointing - this card does not exactly "trade blows" with nvidia offers - not even 1080Ti - and this is the bad thing but I will keep my trusty EVGA 980 Ti some more until Navi comes out - seems like it will be in July...
I mean results here show it trading blows at least, but why are we surprised that it's trading blows with the 1080ti when the 2080 itself trades blows with it if you don't count DLSS or RTX features?
I think people are setting their expectations a little high with the card, which to be fair AMD did kind of hype it up as well. That being said, in terms of any GPU tech Pascal arguably has been one of the most efficient core designs in years. It's going to be hard to beat that even from Nvidia themselves, which in raw performance has already shown this isn't easy. And then we have Radeon VII, which at the end of the day is still Vega. It's a die shrink, but the same Vega core and GCN design with a higher clocks and more memory bandwidth available as well as vram, and a lot of power pushed into it.
Where I think this card will accelerate as even first gen Vega has is DX12, which in hopes of competition for DLSS such as Direct ML coming, makes sense too.
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#5636746 Posted on: 02/07/2019 08:04 PM
Just came home and need to read the reviews, but I saw that they reconfigured the FP64 performance to 1:4 vs 1:8, this made me thinking how the community will unlock this to 1:2 like on MI50.
Just came home and need to read the reviews, but I saw that they reconfigured the FP64 performance to 1:4 vs 1:8, this made me thinking how the community will unlock this to 1:2 like on MI50.
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Nice review, I really dig the design of this reference card, too bad it's so loud. I agree with all of it, especially the pricing. At the same time it's probably something that's not going to go down anymore, and eventually we'll get used to it. But as things stand now, both AMD but especially nvidia offer extremely poor price/performance GPUs. I feel really bad for the people that have to build gaming rigs right now, at least I can milk mine a bit more before finally retiring it.