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Review: AMD Radeon VII (16GB)
Today is the day we may present you the benchmark review of the all new Radeon VII. VII as in fabricated on that 7nm node. The Radeon VII is a product that has been talked about for quite a while. With a die-shrink towards a 7nm fabricated package and 16GB of HBM2, the card is released in an aim to compete with the GeForce RTX 2080; will it be capable to do that?
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Review: DeepCool Captain 240 PRO - 02/05/2019 11:57 AM
In this review we test the DeepCool Captain 240 PRO, the kit has been updated with an improved All-in-One Liquid cooling kit is very decent in performance for an AIO with a 240mm rad. Next to that the...
Review: ASUS GeForce RTX 2060 STRIX OC - 01/30/2019 01:48 PM
Join us as we review the new ASUS GeForce RTX 2060 STRIX OC edition. This premium product has already been tweaked the cards towards an 1830 MHz Boost frequency for you, making this a very rather fast...
Review: Patriot Viper Steel 4000 MHz DDR4 - 01/29/2019 12:36 PM
Today we are reviewing Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 memory. This is a new variant of the Patriot Viper series, which quite surprisingly doesn’t have RGB support (unlike the Viper Gaming RGB kit ...
Review: ASUS GeForce RTX 2080 DUAL OC 8G - 01/24/2019 12:58 PM
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Review: Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe SSD - 01/22/2019 04:00 PM
Samsung is back with the 970 EVO NVMe SSD, this round they release the Plus edition which makes use of new vertically stacked NAND and a tweaked controller. The end result is a faster writing EVO seri...
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#5636623 Posted on: 02/07/2019 03:35 PM
Great review Boss , thank you. I feel they need good drivers asap as the performance is all over the place , once the drivers are more optimized we shall see the true performance , meanwhile it looks like the card it is doing great at high resolutions and that HBM huge frame buffer and bandwidth surely helps a lot there. Price is a little on the high side.
Great review Boss , thank you. I feel they need good drivers asap as the performance is all over the place , once the drivers are more optimized we shall see the true performance , meanwhile it looks like the card it is doing great at high resolutions and that HBM huge frame buffer and bandwidth surely helps a lot there. Price is a little on the high side.
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#5636624 Posted on: 02/07/2019 03:36 PM
What a noisy bastard...
TPU reports the same.
What a noisy bastard...
TPU reports the same.
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#5636626 Posted on: 02/07/2019 03:38 PM
@Hilbert Hagedoorn RE2 remake and upcoming Anthem/Metro games will be nice include instead of some older ones on the list there.
@Hilbert Hagedoorn RE2 remake and upcoming Anthem/Metro games will be nice include instead of some older ones on the list there.
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#5636627 Posted on: 02/07/2019 03:40 PM
What a noisy bastard...
TPU reports the same.
Noissy because the Gpu have bad contact with copper base.
Nice review,Mr.Hilbert.After 6 months of better drivers need to be tested again,somehow.
What a noisy bastard...
TPU reports the same.
Noissy because the Gpu have bad contact with copper base.
Nice review,Mr.Hilbert.After 6 months of better drivers need to be tested again,somehow.
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#5636628 Posted on: 02/07/2019 03:40 PM
The performance seems all over the place. Could be the drivers. Overall though, it loses to the 2080 more often than not and costs the same. It's loud and consumes more power than the 2080ti. Pretty poor from AMD, should be cheaper.
The performance seems all over the place. Could be the drivers. Overall though, it loses to the 2080 more often than not and costs the same. It's loud and consumes more power than the 2080ti. Pretty poor from AMD, should be cheaper.
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#5636630 Posted on: 02/07/2019 03:41 PM
Are you serious? no way. they are losing money on this product....
Interesting card. Considering its a Vega56 7nm this performance uplift is amazing. I im sure AMD will push 64cu 7nm chip later this year, maybe even before Navi hits.
Are you serious? no way. they are losing money on this product....
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#5636636 Posted on: 02/07/2019 03:51 PM
Ah it's good to have competition, so that you can know exactly how much to overprice something after they have already done it.
Ah it's good to have competition, so that you can know exactly how much to overprice something after they have already done it.
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#5636638 Posted on: 02/07/2019 03:52 PM
A very nice card with a "crappy" cooler, curious to see this card with a good custom cooler. But most of all, this card is too expensive just like the 2080 and 2080Ti... The prices of high end cards are simply ridiculous!
Great review as always Hilbert!
A very nice card with a "crappy" cooler, curious to see this card with a good custom cooler. But most of all, this card is too expensive just like the 2080 and 2080Ti... The prices of high end cards are simply ridiculous!
Great review as always Hilbert!
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#5636639 Posted on: 02/07/2019 03:54 PM
Thanks H, nice review. Seems if its one thing AMD is consistent at, is its inconsistency in performance. Finally an AMD ref cooled card that is not hot and loud, it is now cool and loud. Guess some tinkering with fan speeds is in order. I think this card will sell well, even at its price. For those with strong faith in AMDs fine wine driver development, it'll be a buy for sure.
Thanks H, nice review. Seems if its one thing AMD is consistent at, is its inconsistency in performance. Finally an AMD ref cooled card that is not hot and loud, it is now cool and loud. Guess some tinkering with fan speeds is in order. I think this card will sell well, even at its price. For those with strong faith in AMDs fine wine driver development, it'll be a buy for sure.
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#5636643 Posted on: 02/07/2019 03:57 PM
A very nice card with a "crappy" cooler, curious to see this card with a good custom cooler. But most of all, this card id too expensive just like the 2080 and 2080Ti... The prices of high end cards are simply ridiculous!
Great review as always Hilbert!
wonder how it would perform with good thermal paste over that film they used.
A very nice card with a "crappy" cooler, curious to see this card with a good custom cooler. But most of all, this card id too expensive just like the 2080 and 2080Ti... The prices of high end cards are simply ridiculous!
Great review as always Hilbert!
wonder how it would perform with good thermal paste over that film they used.
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#5636644 Posted on: 02/07/2019 03:58 PM
Definitely overpriced, and I guess those missing Vega features from Vega still don't work. Glad to see some competitive gains on the 7 nm node.
Definitely overpriced, and I guess those missing Vega features from Vega still don't work. Glad to see some competitive gains on the 7 nm node.
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#5636646 Posted on: 02/07/2019 04:00 PM
^ 16 GB HBM2 are very expensive,thats why this card is somehow 'overpriced'.
In 4K perform well,but need better optimised drivers.
^ 16 GB HBM2 are very expensive,thats why this card is somehow 'overpriced'.
In 4K perform well,but need better optimised drivers.
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#5636648 Posted on: 02/07/2019 04:01 PM
Gn tried it - the contact area on the die isn't even so the results were mixed.
wonder how it would perform with good thermal paste over that film they used.
Gn tried it - the contact area on the die isn't even so the results were mixed.
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#5636649 Posted on: 02/07/2019 04:01 PM
Considering how cool this GPU operates under load, seems like the fan speeds could be dropped a bit. In addition to that, lower the voltage while maintaining the clock speed and I'm sure you could save up to 50W while making it even quieter (where some of that saved wattage would be the reduced fan speed).
Anyway, I'm not interested in getting this, but it leaves me hopeful about Navi.
The light of hope is there but the drivers need to mature. (I'm still dumbfounded the AMD driver team can still launch a GCN based card with under-performing drivers).
The bad part is it spends a lot of time trading blows with a card that consumes 120W less power and the noise level at load.... I hope that's just a faulty fan and they aren't all that loud. Temps look great though (I would hope so with the sound produced).
The performance seems all over the place. Could be the drivers. Overall though, it loses to the 2080 more often than not and costs the same. It's loud and consumes more power than the 2080ti. Pretty poor from AMD, should be cheaper.
I too think there are driver issues. The results are way too inconsistent. I understand that some games are Nvidia optimized but the RVII is jumping between multiple performance tiers.
EDIT:
Just checked out Linux benchmarks (where the AMD drivers are completely different from the Windows ones, but Nvidia drivers are mostly the same). Seems to have much more consistent performance there, where I'd say on average it's about the same as the 2080. Interestingly, the performance-per-watt isn't really a whole lot different than the 2080, at least in tests where their level of performance was similar.
Considering how cool this GPU operates under load, seems like the fan speeds could be dropped a bit. In addition to that, lower the voltage while maintaining the clock speed and I'm sure you could save up to 50W while making it even quieter (where some of that saved wattage would be the reduced fan speed).
Anyway, I'm not interested in getting this, but it leaves me hopeful about Navi.
The light of hope is there but the drivers need to mature. (I'm still dumbfounded the AMD driver team can still launch a GCN based card with under-performing drivers).
The bad part is it spends a lot of time trading blows with a card that consumes 120W less power and the noise level at load.... I hope that's just a faulty fan and they aren't all that loud. Temps look great though (I would hope so with the sound produced).
The performance seems all over the place. Could be the drivers. Overall though, it loses to the 2080 more often than not and costs the same. It's loud and consumes more power than the 2080ti. Pretty poor from AMD, should be cheaper.
I too think there are driver issues. The results are way too inconsistent. I understand that some games are Nvidia optimized but the RVII is jumping between multiple performance tiers.
EDIT:
Just checked out Linux benchmarks (where the AMD drivers are completely different from the Windows ones, but Nvidia drivers are mostly the same). Seems to have much more consistent performance there, where I'd say on average it's about the same as the 2080. Interestingly, the performance-per-watt isn't really a whole lot different than the 2080, at least in tests where their level of performance was similar.
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Weird numbers in bf. 1 place in 1080p, and drops as soon resolution goes up. Would think it would do better in higher res.
Cards performes about what i expected after watcing and reading about it, wondering if future drivers will bumb up performance. Or are they allready at the limit of what the card can do?
If i should buy a new gpu today i would consider 1080ti. Seems to be the king when it comes to price vs performance. If i shit money, 2080ti is the king and a very nice card. To bad its pricerange is batshit crazy.... o_O
If amd droped price 50-100usd i think it would be a better deal. Have mixed feelings about this card, price is my main issue considering performance..