Raphael GPU on AMD Ryzen 7000 would get 128 RDNA2 shader cores
If the chatter is real, the GPU of the new Ryzen 7000 processors will get 128 shaders cores and is codenamed "Coral Bandfish." If so, Raphael CPUs are only fitting for uncomplicated graphics applications.
AMD plans to deliver a new CPU generation with the Ryzen 7000 processors, codenamed Raphael, by the end of the year. As revealed at Computex, the new CPUs will be the first to utilize the new AM5 socket, Zen 4 architecture, and TSMC's 5 nm fabrication. In response, AMD intends to provide significantly higher computational power and a redesigned platform that supports DDR5 RAM and PCI Express 5.0 for the first time.
There should be advances beyond the processor and platform with Ryzen 7000. Instead, AMD revealed at the fair that a GPU at default would be included in the new generation for the first time, catching up to Intel in this regard. In the successors of the current APUs, the GPU should continue to reside on a single chip alongside the CPU. The new GPU should be installed for Raphael, where typically two CPU chiplets are put on the additional IO chip.
AMD has not yet disclosed any relevant performance-related information. It is only known that the GPU is an RDNA2 and that the entire device is made using a 6 nm process. Consequently, the integrated graphics unit should utilize the codename "Coral Bandfish". With RDNA2, a unit of this type comprises two compute units, resulting in Ryzen 7000 having 128 shaders.
If so, the Raphael GPU would be much slower than the current generation of APUs: On desktops, the Ryzen 5 5600G has 448 shaders, and even on laptops, no APUs with fewer than 384 shaders are available. The IGP of Ryzen 7000 CPUs will therefore likely only be appropriate for extremely simple graphics programs and the playback of codecs supported by the hardware. On the other hand, the subsequent generation of APUs, in which AMD will most likely install much more shaders, will likely offer superior graphics performance.
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few office cpus need anything more than a card that will open ms office
so apus are wasteful if 2cu does the job
more options is better,that's what amd clearly understood and you can't
even a dgpu would be better cause it's transferrable, unlike in the apu.
Except for all these years, AMD hasn't provided something like this until now. So no, clearly AMD didn't understand this, and they're only doing it because that's what's being asked of them in order to sell more chips. As tunejunky pointed out, dGPUs impact production lines, so being transferrable is not a viable selling point. Also, even AMD's current overkill iGPUs cost less than the most cost-cut dGPUs. So, while I get OEMs might want models with cheaper iGPUs, they still could have been producing PCs with AMD's BGA chips for higher margins.
Maybe be less of an ass next time, eh?
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from their perspective,that's just fantastic if they're doing things to supply demand.
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For Zen4 AMD is using the exact same IO die for consumer and server CPU's. Since the iGPU is in the IO die every server CPU will have an iGPU. So what I said directly applies to the data center folks of which I used to be one.
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Like I said, you obviously didn't read my post, because there's nothing to bicker about if you did. You read one sentence and started to argue with me based on that alone. My point was these CPUs aren't replaced, so, OEMs supplying PCs with BGA APUs would fix the problem @tunejunky was speaking of.
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If OEMs don't like the added overhead/cost of installing a dGPU, they had plenty of Zen3 APUs to choose from to suit just about all of their target markets, if they went with BGA. Since companies like Dell love the idea of planned obsolescence, I would think they'd prefer BGA.
few office cpus need anything more than a card that will open ms office
so apus are wasteful if 2cu does the job
more options is better,that's what amd clearly understood and you can't
even a dgpu would be better cause it's transferrable, unlike in the apu.