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Radeon Vega20 Gets Spotted in Linux AMDGPU driver
Interesting, some Vega20 Linux patches have been listed, and have been posted by somebody froMA MD, likely a driver developer. We mentioned Vega20 a few times in the past already, and that would be a die shrunk Vega, much like what Ryzen 2000 will be towards the original Ryzen procs.
Whatever the production node is, we don't know yet though as that can be anything from 7 to 12 nm. The Linux driver entry is listing no less than six new device IDs referring towards "Vega 20".Earlier on Vega 20 was mentioned to be released the second half of 2018. It is mentioned to get the same 64 CUs / 4096 shader processors as in Vega 10.
Vega 20 will be a die-shrink of Vega 10, the initial indicator was it would be a 7 nm GF9 process being developed by GlobalFoundries. However, 7nm (UV) production, as I know right now, will see the light of day in 2019. This simply might be some really early support/testing at the AMD dev team. But it is a valid entry none the less.
Source: Freedesktop via Reddit via Videocardz
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#5534135 Posted on: 04/02/2018 11:08 AM
my Vega20 wish list higher clocks cooler and overclock headroom I will not be purchasing as I have a 1080ti but I really want more competition
my Vega20 wish list higher clocks cooler and overclock headroom I will not be purchasing as I have a 1080ti but I really want more competition
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#5534138 Posted on: 04/02/2018 11:14 AM
I remember before Vega was released amd had a bigger Vega with 6144 shaders what ever happened to that
I remember before Vega was released amd had a bigger Vega with 6144 shaders what ever happened to that
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#5534141 Posted on: 04/02/2018 11:37 AM
about a hash and a half %
Curious as to what ~% performance improvements could this bring.
about a hash and a half %
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#5534142 Posted on: 04/02/2018 11:37 AM
I only hope this hype round has less AMD marketing BS and last way less.
More expectation (based on lies) = More deception (based on reality)
AMD is already the king of the mining GPU market with their "Gaming" GPUs but for the sake of competition in PC gaming market we need that AMD sells gaming GPUs to...
...PC gamers to play PC games!
Unbelievable idea i know.
I only hope this hype round has less AMD marketing BS and last way less.
More expectation (based on lies) = More deception (based on reality)
AMD is already the king of the mining GPU market with their "Gaming" GPUs but for the sake of competition in PC gaming market we need that AMD sells gaming GPUs to...
...PC gamers to play PC games!
Unbelievable idea i know.
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#5534149 Posted on: 04/02/2018 12:07 PM
^^ Do they having "Gaming" GPU's? I thought GPP did away with that.
^^ Do they having "Gaming" GPU's? I thought GPP did away with that.
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#5534153 Posted on: 04/02/2018 12:31 PM
ahahhahaha
Good point.
GPP can make some brands to change naming but the GPU themselves are supposed to be made as "gaming GPUs"...to play games on PC.
^^ Do they having "Gaming" GPU's? I thought GPP did away with that.
ahahhahaha
Good point.
GPP can make some brands to change naming but the GPU themselves are supposed to be made as "gaming GPUs"...to play games on PC.
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#5534164 Posted on: 04/02/2018 01:17 PM
I'm thinking the amount of power required to run that thing was to high.
I remember before Vega was released amd had a bigger Vega with 6144 shaders what ever happened to that
I'm thinking the amount of power required to run that thing was to high.
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#5534175 Posted on: 04/02/2018 01:55 PM
Funny, I've been hearing about Vega20 for nearly a month but I couldn't get any info on it, even from AMD devs (some of them are active users on Phoronix). This is the most real info about Vega20 I've heard so far.
I don't want higher clocks, I want better performance-per-clock. Despite what people think, Vega is a great architecture, but, it scales up very poorly. Even though the APUs are starving for memory bandwidth, they still have very good performance-per-watt. In order for Vega 56/64 to compete with Nvidia, AMD had to push the voltage and clocks higher than the architecture should have gone. We don't want to see this again.
Maybe they were for FirePro models. Something like that would've been way too expensive for gamers.
Funny, I've been hearing about Vega20 for nearly a month but I couldn't get any info on it, even from AMD devs (some of them are active users on Phoronix). This is the most real info about Vega20 I've heard so far.
my Vega20 wish list higher clocks cooler and overclock headroom I will not be purchasing as I have a 1080ti but I really want more competition
I don't want higher clocks, I want better performance-per-clock. Despite what people think, Vega is a great architecture, but, it scales up very poorly. Even though the APUs are starving for memory bandwidth, they still have very good performance-per-watt. In order for Vega 56/64 to compete with Nvidia, AMD had to push the voltage and clocks higher than the architecture should have gone. We don't want to see this again.
I remember before Vega was released amd had a bigger Vega with 6144 shaders what ever happened to that
Maybe they were for FirePro models. Something like that would've been way too expensive for gamers.
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#5534189 Posted on: 04/02/2018 02:32 PM
Ill take a vega gpu with a die shrink.
Vega 56 is still a nice upgrade for me.
Ill take a vega gpu with a die shrink.
Vega 56 is still a nice upgrade for me.
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#5534191 Posted on: 04/02/2018 02:36 PM
The real question is, if it will be faster than Titan Xp and consumes less energy per framerate. If it can't, it better has to never come into massive production. Time will tell. Will AMD take the smile of Huang's face, or he will ROFL again.
The real question is, if it will be faster than Titan Xp and consumes less energy per framerate. If it can't, it better has to never come into massive production. Time will tell. Will AMD take the smile of Huang's face, or he will ROFL again.
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#5534248 Posted on: 04/02/2018 07:13 PM
Power Consumption was OK. Manufacturing cost of Vega with 6144SP would cost more than Fiji with 8192SP. As Vega 64 has quite more transistors to give same 4096SP as Fiji.
Yet from Experience, everyone here knows that little downclock (5~10%) and downvolt can bring power down by 30~50%.
So there could have been Vega 96 in Vega 64 thermal envelope while performing like 35% better.
Not really worth the cost.
I'm thinking the amount of power required to run that thing was to high.
Power Consumption was OK. Manufacturing cost of Vega with 6144SP would cost more than Fiji with 8192SP. As Vega 64 has quite more transistors to give same 4096SP as Fiji.
Yet from Experience, everyone here knows that little downclock (5~10%) and downvolt can bring power down by 30~50%.
So there could have been Vega 96 in Vega 64 thermal envelope while performing like 35% better.
Not really worth the cost.
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#5534254 Posted on: 04/02/2018 07:40 PM
I only hope this hype round has less AMD marketing BS and last way less.
More expectation (based on lies) = More deception (based on reality)
AMD is already the king of the mining GPU market with their "Gaming" GPUs but for the sake of competition in PC gaming market we need that AMD sells gaming GPUs to...
...PC gamers to play PC games!
Unbelievable idea i know.
For that AMD GPU should get in shop...
Right now i only have seen a single Vega 56... and the client were pissed to have paid it the price of the Titan Xp for the perf of a GTX 1070...
So much things to do for AMD ...
I only hope this hype round has less AMD marketing BS and last way less.
More expectation (based on lies) = More deception (based on reality)
AMD is already the king of the mining GPU market with their "Gaming" GPUs but for the sake of competition in PC gaming market we need that AMD sells gaming GPUs to...
...PC gamers to play PC games!
Unbelievable idea i know.
For that AMD GPU should get in shop...
Right now i only have seen a single Vega 56... and the client were pissed to have paid it the price of the Titan Xp for the perf of a GTX 1070...
So much things to do for AMD ...
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#5534257 Posted on: 04/02/2018 07:51 PM
There are Vega 56's for sale here now, and there prices are coming down slowly. Almost on par with the 1070 ti in price. $650 upwards.
There are Vega 56's for sale here now, and there prices are coming down slowly. Almost on par with the 1070 ti in price. $650 upwards.
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#5534280 Posted on: 04/02/2018 09:09 PM
How do you get more performance per clock? It would take a whole new architecture or at least more computing units in existing architecture, making the GPU more costly to manufacture. Clocks, however, are totally free performance, so the higher they can rise, the better, assuming the power draw doesn't get ridiculous. AMD is lacking behind Nvidia in clocks, which means Nvidia gets more of that free performance out of its GPUs.
I don't want higher clocks, I want better performance-per-clock. Despite what people think, Vega is a great architecture, but, it scales up very poorly. Even though the APUs are starving for memory bandwidth, they still have very good performance-per-watt. In order for Vega 56/64 to compete with Nvidia, AMD had to push the voltage and clocks higher than the architecture should have gone. We don't want to see this again.
How do you get more performance per clock? It would take a whole new architecture or at least more computing units in existing architecture, making the GPU more costly to manufacture. Clocks, however, are totally free performance, so the higher they can rise, the better, assuming the power draw doesn't get ridiculous. AMD is lacking behind Nvidia in clocks, which means Nvidia gets more of that free performance out of its GPUs.
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Curious as to what ~% performance improvements could this bring.