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Radeon RX Vega 64 Graphics cards out of stock or a 100 bucks more expensive
There's a number of things going on surrounding the Radeon RX Vega 56 and 64 release. First off, there is this rumor that prices have been jacked up, as the normal launch prices of 399 and 499 are no longer in effect, there seems to be a 100 USD difference.
The MSR prices for the standalone Vega 56 and 64 Black (as we reviewed them) are 399 and 499 USD repectively, as AMD let the media know these prices. Both cards can be spotted and advertised (if you can find them at all) for 499 and 599 with the 56 being a preorder and the physically 64 available. However that 100 bucks extra, here's the thing these would be the bundled versions with Prey and the to be released Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus. So, if the cards are physical available then the question rised, was the stock for non-bundled Vega kept low deliberately ?
A number if things could have happened if you think about that thesis. Etailers might have had low volume available, stock and have driven up prices to make a quick extra buck? AMD also might have figured the same thing, we do not know really. It also can be a misjudgment, AMD thinking that people would be more interested in the game bundled versions.
If we take the Radeon RX Vega 64 and look at pricing with VAT we are ending at roughly ~650 Euros right now. We checked these prices at Geizhalz.eu
Now here is the thing, these cards do not seem to be the bundled ones. When we move to the UK, then we see that at Overclock3rs the first cards had normal prices in a bit of a pre-order, however after minutes of the launch prices got jacked upo by another 100 bucks, here again only the more expensive bundle version is available.
Currently, where I reside in the Benelux, cards are simply not even available. All in all we are rather confused about this launch, and the prices are a bit of a mess with all these confusing bundles and low availability of the standalone cards. Currently prices are way higher compared to the GeForce GTX 1070 and 1080.
Long story short, if you are in the market for a Vega 64, you'll be spending at least a 100 USD/EURO more opposed to the introductory prices. What do you guys think, let us know in the thread below.
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#5464565 Posted on: 08/19/2017 04:40 AM
No, but expect the usual. A little faster than 1080 ti for the 1180 or 2080 gtx. The Titan should be about 30-45% faster on top of that, but it’ll be 2019 until we get the cut down Ti model. I’ll just wait until then to upgrade.
With a 1080 Ti you'll be fine at 1440p or lower for a while to come, unless you insist on some pretty extreme settings.
I'm dying over here with my prehistoric 970 though, it chokes in modern games even when tortured to 1.6GHz (which in some games has been crashing lately so I've had to lower it). A reference 970's turbo speed is 1178MHz. That's a 35.8% increase, doesn't that put it past a reference 980 in performance? Something faster than a stock 980 is not enough for 1440p while the only reasonable upgrade options cost their weight in gold. Sad. Bigly.
Usually I can disable ambient occlusion, and some effects I don't like, or lower shadows, but in games like Senua's Sacrifice that doesn't really work for me so I'm forced to drop to 1080p.
I can't wait until miners are sent to Guantanamo Bay and AMD release a competitive product. I'm not paying $1.2K (yay Canada) for a year and a half old card.
https://www.techspot.com/news/70584-nvidia-volta-gaming-gpus-not-foreseeable-future.html
This sounds like not this year.
I'd bet 100 litres of scumbag CEO blood that Volta would have released for the holiday season if AMD had a competing product.
No, but expect the usual. A little faster than 1080 ti for the 1180 or 2080 gtx. The Titan should be about 30-45% faster on top of that, but it’ll be 2019 until we get the cut down Ti model. I’ll just wait until then to upgrade.
With a 1080 Ti you'll be fine at 1440p or lower for a while to come, unless you insist on some pretty extreme settings.
I'm dying over here with my prehistoric 970 though, it chokes in modern games even when tortured to 1.6GHz (which in some games has been crashing lately so I've had to lower it). A reference 970's turbo speed is 1178MHz. That's a 35.8% increase, doesn't that put it past a reference 980 in performance? Something faster than a stock 980 is not enough for 1440p while the only reasonable upgrade options cost their weight in gold. Sad. Bigly.
Usually I can disable ambient occlusion, and some effects I don't like, or lower shadows, but in games like Senua's Sacrifice that doesn't really work for me so I'm forced to drop to 1080p.
I can't wait until miners are sent to Guantanamo Bay and AMD release a competitive product. I'm not paying $1.2K (yay Canada) for a year and a half old card.
https://www.techspot.com/news/70584-nvidia-volta-gaming-gpus-not-foreseeable-future.html
This sounds like not this year.
I'd bet 100 litres of scumbag CEO blood that Volta would have released for the holiday season if AMD had a competing product.
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#5464578 Posted on: 08/19/2017 07:19 AM
I found 1 Sapphire Vega 64 reference locally but they wanted 750 USD for it! WTF! I could buy a 1080 Ti for that price and since Vega is clearly a QHD GPU, not 4K GPU, forget it. Not going to pay gouging prices when there are much more important things in life.
I will wait for Volta and Navi so these scalping retailers can suck it.
So glad fellow Gurus advised me to pickup my current 1060 GPU for 1080 gaming. Seriously best value for what it is so far before the mining spike.
AMD lost this generation as far as GAMING market share is concerned due to price to performance ratio. I hope they will fix it with Navi and clamp down on the retail pricing or lose again to Volta.
I found 1 Sapphire Vega 64 reference locally but they wanted 750 USD for it! WTF! I could buy a 1080 Ti for that price and since Vega is clearly a QHD GPU, not 4K GPU, forget it. Not going to pay gouging prices when there are much more important things in life.
I will wait for Volta and Navi so these scalping retailers can suck it.
So glad fellow Gurus advised me to pickup my current 1060 GPU for 1080 gaming. Seriously best value for what it is so far before the mining spike.
AMD lost this generation as far as GAMING market share is concerned due to price to performance ratio. I hope they will fix it with Navi and clamp down on the retail pricing or lose again to Volta.
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#5464595 Posted on: 08/21/2017 03:02 PM
I'd bet 100 litres of scumbag CEO blood that Volta would have released for the holiday season if AMD had a competing product.
GDDR6 mass production is Q1 2018 - I'd imagine that Nvidia would want it's latest cards to have that. So I don't see why they'd release consumer Volta before, regardless to whether AMD had a competing product or not.
I'd bet 100 litres of scumbag CEO blood that Volta would have released for the holiday season if AMD had a competing product.
GDDR6 mass production is Q1 2018 - I'd imagine that Nvidia would want it's latest cards to have that. So I don't see why they'd release consumer Volta before, regardless to whether AMD had a competing product or not.
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#5489340 Posted on: 11/05/2017 02:13 AM
id like to necro this thread to tell everyone that vega 56 & 64 standalone cards are available @MSRP on newegg, amazon, everywhere
im not necessarily recommending them; go buy a 1070 if you can find those @MSRP. i dont actually care. the point is that gibbo & OCUK are on record lying - again - to prop up their short-term sales. this "bundles only" thing wasnt insider information or info gleamed from reading between the lines in a press release/official public statement. this was pure, knowing fabrication.
if somebody makes a completely unsubstantiated claim, question it. if they stand to directly benefit from said claim? well, dont even begin to believe it without evidence
id like to necro this thread to tell everyone that vega 56 & 64 standalone cards are available @MSRP on newegg, amazon, everywhere
im not necessarily recommending them; go buy a 1070 if you can find those @MSRP. i dont actually care. the point is that gibbo & OCUK are on record lying - again - to prop up their short-term sales. this "bundles only" thing wasnt insider information or info gleamed from reading between the lines in a press release/official public statement. this was pure, knowing fabrication.
if somebody makes a completely unsubstantiated claim, question it. if they stand to directly benefit from said claim? well, dont even begin to believe it without evidence
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It's not like nVidia cards are cheap. They are expensive as hell right now.
I'll build a new computer this fall and I plan to spend between 400 and 450 (before taxes) for the GPU. The less expensive non reference 1070 in canada are sold at 550$. That's 100$ too much. I would need to buy an entry level card.
So nope man i wont buy nVidia i'll keep my 970. I will probably try to find a used 970 and dual them. A used 970 will probably not be more expensive than a 1060 and two 970 will likely perform better than a single 1060. I'll need to check to be sure but it's probably the case. Those price are ridiculous imo.
I never said they were, but it's not a stretch to think that people were planning to get Vega56/64 based on both cards easily beating the competing Nvidia card either when it came to performance or price.
Since neither happened they are now more likely (if they don't own or plan to own a Freesync monitor) to pick up the cheaper and in stock Nvidia cards.
A second 970 is a gamble if you play new games, i love my setup as i play old games at 4k/60 but with a new game you will likely struggle to get 1080/30 if MGPU isn't supported.