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Radeon RX 580 Benchmarks Leak In Asia
An Asia region based guy called Lau Kin Lam figured it's ok to break NDA. He posted photos of an XFX Radeon RX 580 which he liquid cooled, and sure posted benchmarks as well.
Accompanied by photos, screenshots and a video you'll notice the Radeon RX 580 clocked at 1360 MHz, all info and screenshots can be found on his facebook page. Lau seems to be an enthusiast overclocker who has attended several competitions, with ties to HKEPC. His OC Result for RX580:
- Time Spy 4622
- Graphics score 4664
- Graphics Test 1 31.53FPS
- Graphics Test 2 25.93FPS
He also posted a Youtube Video called NDA BREAK - RX580 where he livestream an hour session taking the card though benchmarks and overclocking. In the pictures below you can see some more findings with scores overclocked as well.
Basically with 3DMark Time Spy he reaches:
- XFX RX 580 @ 1360/8000 - 4311 points
- XFX RX 580 @ 1500/8000 - 4449 points
- XFX RX 580 @ 1480/8500 - 4664 points
Wanna Buy a Radeon RX 570 from MSI on eBay? - 04/14/2017 07:29 AM
Well, that is possible as a dude named sandrjanson_0 is offering the MSI Radeon RX 570 Gaming X 4G on ebay, it's ab it pricy though at 379.99 USD :)...
HIS Radeon RX 570 IceQ X2 Already Selling - 04/12/2017 05:30 PM
A Vietnamese retailer seems to be already unreleased Radeon RX 500 graphics cards, and it seems that the folks from from a Vietnamese website called Genk went ahead and purchased a HIS Radeon RX 570 ...
AMD Radeon RX 500 Series Launches April 18th - 04/12/2017 11:34 AM
We've been chatting about the upcoming Radeon RX 550, 570 and 580 graphics cards for a while now. the one thing that never solidified however is the actuality release date. That myth is now debunked ...
Radeon RX 550 - 570 and 580 3DMark FireStrike Performance - 04/05/2017 08:11 PM
A lot has been said and spoken about on the refresh that is pending from AMD, the lineup for the 570 adn 580 mainly is a Polaris respin. New information has surfaced, including 3DMark Fire Strike Ext...
Radeon RX 550 - 570 and 580 Getting Listed - 04/04/2017 07:35 AM
It is that time again that webshops are revealing stuff they should not. Today the Radeon RX 550, 570 and 580 have been spotted in varying SKUs....
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#5421058 Posted on: 04/16/2017 12:37 AM
hoping to see 1.6Ghz by tuesday next week
hoping to see 1.6Ghz by tuesday next week
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#5421084 Posted on: 04/16/2017 02:47 AM
GDDR5???? sure???
What happen HBM???
GDDR5???? sure???
What happen HBM???
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#5421090 Posted on: 04/16/2017 03:26 AM
GDDR5???? sure???
What happen HBM???
This is not Vega. Why would you put HBM on a midrange gpu anyways at this point.
GDDR5???? sure???
What happen HBM???
This is not Vega. Why would you put HBM on a midrange gpu anyways at this point.
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#5421092 Posted on: 04/16/2017 03:35 AM
So when is NDA lift?
So when is NDA lift?
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#5421096 Posted on: 04/16/2017 04:22 AM
I just wanna apologize ahead of time to whoever buys this. You can call me a fanboy or whatever. You can say apologist crap like "completion is good." You can ban me. Whatever. This needs to be the Nvidia killer, and Nvidia is a step ahead in SOFTWARE.
Sorry to sound like a fanboy, I don't believe in that crap. I do believe software wins in the end though, always. AMD has shown only surface attempts to bring software up to spec. Focusing whatever capital they have for this on hardware. It doesnt matter anymore. If this is Ryzen priced GPU edition. Nope. Sorry. Flame the **** out of me whatever.
I just wanna apologize ahead of time to whoever buys this. You can call me a fanboy or whatever. You can say apologist crap like "completion is good." You can ban me. Whatever. This needs to be the Nvidia killer, and Nvidia is a step ahead in SOFTWARE.
Sorry to sound like a fanboy, I don't believe in that crap. I do believe software wins in the end though, always. AMD has shown only surface attempts to bring software up to spec. Focusing whatever capital they have for this on hardware. It doesnt matter anymore. If this is Ryzen priced GPU edition. Nope. Sorry. Flame the **** out of me whatever.
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#5421104 Posted on: 04/16/2017 04:49 AM
This is just a higher-clocked Polaris with a new driver. It's not the "killer" of anything except the 1060.
This is just a higher-clocked Polaris with a new driver. It's not the "killer" of anything except the 1060.
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#5421106 Posted on: 04/16/2017 04:56 AM
I just wanna apologize ahead of time to whoever buys this. You can call me a fanboy or whatever. You can say apologist crap like "completion is good." You can ban me. Whatever. This needs to be the Nvidia killer, and Nvidia is a step ahead in SOFTWARE.
Sorry to sound like a fanboy, I don't believe in that crap. I do believe software wins in the end though, always. AMD has shown only surface attempts to bring software up to spec. Focusing whatever capital they have for this on hardware. It doesnt matter anymore. If this is Ryzen priced GPU edition. Nope. Sorry. Flame the **** out of me whatever.
You have serious problem.
As someone who uses both sides in multiple rigs in my house, nvidia software sucks in many ways.
The sheer amount it takes to open with an SSD is absolutely pathetic.
The fact many a few of my nvidia gpus ,gtx 950,gtx 650ti boost, do not scale correctly with HDMI on my TV and can not use 1920x1080 wihtout scaling it to the screen, but a geforce 8400 gs works perfectly fine with no scaling.
My HD 5770 works perfectly with my TV even with legacy drivers under windows 10. Both sides have issues in different ways.
Geforce experience is a pile of forced ****. I have it installed to use game streaming to my phone with limelight.
And most of all, gues what, Nvidia is garbage in gpu market except high end. The majority of people spend $250 or less on gpus. They get the job for most.
Guru3d users on average are a very small part of the big picture. Open you'r damn eyes and stop being an ignorant fool.
I just wanna apologize ahead of time to whoever buys this. You can call me a fanboy or whatever. You can say apologist crap like "completion is good." You can ban me. Whatever. This needs to be the Nvidia killer, and Nvidia is a step ahead in SOFTWARE.
Sorry to sound like a fanboy, I don't believe in that crap. I do believe software wins in the end though, always. AMD has shown only surface attempts to bring software up to spec. Focusing whatever capital they have for this on hardware. It doesnt matter anymore. If this is Ryzen priced GPU edition. Nope. Sorry. Flame the **** out of me whatever.
You have serious problem.
As someone who uses both sides in multiple rigs in my house, nvidia software sucks in many ways.
The sheer amount it takes to open with an SSD is absolutely pathetic.
The fact many a few of my nvidia gpus ,gtx 950,gtx 650ti boost, do not scale correctly with HDMI on my TV and can not use 1920x1080 wihtout scaling it to the screen, but a geforce 8400 gs works perfectly fine with no scaling.
My HD 5770 works perfectly with my TV even with legacy drivers under windows 10. Both sides have issues in different ways.
Geforce experience is a pile of forced ****. I have it installed to use game streaming to my phone with limelight.
And most of all, gues what, Nvidia is garbage in gpu market except high end. The majority of people spend $250 or less on gpus. They get the job for most.
Guru3d users on average are a very small part of the big picture. Open you'r damn eyes and stop being an ignorant fool.
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#5421139 Posted on: 04/16/2017 08:09 AM
I want a Vega with HBM2, because I have a 4k monitor, cant play BF1 with 4k resolution. Maybe wait for Vega or maybe buy the rx580 look nice and have good price.
About Nvidia. I dont have one from the fail of gtx480 was a really pain for me. I was fan of SLI and buyed a pair, was terrible expierence. Amd save my depresion when I had My dear 6990.
I want a Vega with HBM2, because I have a 4k monitor, cant play BF1 with 4k resolution. Maybe wait for Vega or maybe buy the rx580 look nice and have good price.
About Nvidia. I dont have one from the fail of gtx480 was a really pain for me. I was fan of SLI and buyed a pair, was terrible expierence. Amd save my depresion when I had My dear 6990.
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#5421142 Posted on: 04/16/2017 08:18 AM
If I was AMD, before say it
http://www.amd.com/Documents/High-Bandwidth-Memory-HBM.pdf
I thinking launch another product with this Problem
This is not Vega. Why would you put HBM on a midrange gpu anyways at this point.
If I was AMD, before say it
http://www.amd.com/Documents/High-Bandwidth-Memory-HBM.pdf
I thinking launch another product with this Problem
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#5421168 Posted on: 04/16/2017 11:25 AM
I just wanna apologize ahead of time to whoever buys this. You can call me a fanboy or whatever. You can say apologist crap like "completion is good." You can ban me. Whatever. This needs to be the Nvidia killer, and Nvidia is a step ahead in SOFTWARE.
Sorry to sound like a fanboy, I don't believe in that crap. I do believe software wins in the end though, always. AMD has shown only surface attempts to bring software up to spec. Focusing whatever capital they have for this on hardware. It doesnt matter anymore. If this is Ryzen priced GPU edition. Nope. Sorry. Flame the **** out of me whatever.
I'm sure i'm not the only one in here that has no idea what you are talking about.
I just wanna apologize ahead of time to whoever buys this. You can call me a fanboy or whatever. You can say apologist crap like "completion is good." You can ban me. Whatever. This needs to be the Nvidia killer, and Nvidia is a step ahead in SOFTWARE.
Sorry to sound like a fanboy, I don't believe in that crap. I do believe software wins in the end though, always. AMD has shown only surface attempts to bring software up to spec. Focusing whatever capital they have for this on hardware. It doesnt matter anymore. If this is Ryzen priced GPU edition. Nope. Sorry. Flame the **** out of me whatever.
I'm sure i'm not the only one in here that has no idea what you are talking about.
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#5421181 Posted on: 04/16/2017 12:21 PM
Nice to see he got it up to 1400-1500MHz.
A good example of what the process change enables in that region.
Is Vega the same GCN tech as Polaris, or is it newer ?
If its the same, i guesstimated last night, that it should be around 11380 Gflops, which is a tad higher than the 1080Ti (all stock, of course, assuming Vega hits 1500MHz).
That would make it in between a 1080, and a 1080Ti in games.
The extra memory bandwidth from the HBM might make the difference needed to leap just over the 1080Ti, but then again, there will probably not be much overclocking headroom, whereas the Nvidia, appropriately cooled, will probably get better results. AMD could also give us some watercooling headroom, if they were nice, and help there.
edit : I'd forgotten its a new NCU rather than a GCN, so not totally comparable.
Should be better than that guess.
Nice to see he got it up to 1400-1500MHz.
A good example of what the process change enables in that region.
Is Vega the same GCN tech as Polaris, or is it newer ?
If its the same, i guesstimated last night, that it should be around 11380 Gflops, which is a tad higher than the 1080Ti (all stock, of course, assuming Vega hits 1500MHz).
That would make it in between a 1080, and a 1080Ti in games.
The extra memory bandwidth from the HBM might make the difference needed to leap just over the 1080Ti, but then again, there will probably not be much overclocking headroom, whereas the Nvidia, appropriately cooled, will probably get better results. AMD could also give us some watercooling headroom, if they were nice, and help there.
edit : I'd forgotten its a new NCU rather than a GCN, so not totally comparable.
Should be better than that guess.
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#5421188 Posted on: 04/16/2017 12:47 PM
You have serious problem.
As someone who uses both sides in multiple rigs in my house, nvidia software sucks in many ways.
The sheer amount it takes to open with an SSD is absolutely pathetic.
The fact many a few of my nvidia gpus ,gtx 950,gtx 650ti boost, do not scale correctly with HDMI on my TV and can not use 1920x1080 wihtout scaling it to the screen, but a geforce 8400 gs works perfectly fine with no scaling.
My HD 5770 works perfectly with my TV even with legacy drivers under windows 10. Both sides have issues in different ways.
Geforce experience is a pile of forced ****. I have it installed to use game streaming to my phone with limelight.
And most of all, gues what, Nvidia is garbage in gpu market except high end. The majority of people spend $250 or less on gpus. They get the job for most.
Guru3d users on average are a very small part of the big picture. Open you'r damn eyes and stop being an ignorant fool.
It's ironic that you like to call people names and yet your pleonasm actually makes you the ignorant one.
You have serious problem.
As someone who uses both sides in multiple rigs in my house, nvidia software sucks in many ways.
The sheer amount it takes to open with an SSD is absolutely pathetic.
The fact many a few of my nvidia gpus ,gtx 950,gtx 650ti boost, do not scale correctly with HDMI on my TV and can not use 1920x1080 wihtout scaling it to the screen, but a geforce 8400 gs works perfectly fine with no scaling.
My HD 5770 works perfectly with my TV even with legacy drivers under windows 10. Both sides have issues in different ways.
Geforce experience is a pile of forced ****. I have it installed to use game streaming to my phone with limelight.
And most of all, gues what, Nvidia is garbage in gpu market except high end. The majority of people spend $250 or less on gpus. They get the job for most.
Guru3d users on average are a very small part of the big picture. Open you'r damn eyes and stop being an ignorant fool.
It's ironic that you like to call people names and yet your pleonasm actually makes you the ignorant one.
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#5421189 Posted on: 04/16/2017 12:52 PM
Yep, that's it. This is the card that'll be competing against the GTX 1060, outperforming it at a similar price point presumably. The vega line-up which are expected to be released next month will compete with the GTX 1070 & 1080.
And no one knows if AMD is going to release a card that'll compete with the 1080 Ti. But if they release cards that outperform the 1070 & 1080, while costing $50 to $100 less, that'll be great.
This is just a higher-clocked Polaris with a new driver. It's not the "killer" of anything except the 1060.
Yep, that's it. This is the card that'll be competing against the GTX 1060, outperforming it at a similar price point presumably. The vega line-up which are expected to be released next month will compete with the GTX 1070 & 1080.
And no one knows if AMD is going to release a card that'll compete with the 1080 Ti. But if they release cards that outperform the 1070 & 1080, while costing $50 to $100 less, that'll be great.
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#5421194 Posted on: 04/16/2017 01:26 PM
You have serious problem.
As someone who uses both sides in multiple rigs in my house, nvidia software sucks in many ways.
The sheer amount it takes to open with an SSD is absolutely pathetic.
The fact many a few of my nvidia gpus ,gtx 950,gtx 650ti boost, do not scale correctly with HDMI on my TV and can not use 1920x1080 wihtout scaling it to the screen, but a geforce 8400 gs works perfectly fine with no scaling.
My HD 5770 works perfectly with my TV even with legacy drivers under windows 10. Both sides have issues in different ways.
Geforce experience is a pile of forced ****. I have it installed to use game streaming to my phone with limelight.
And most of all, gues what, Nvidia is garbage in gpu market except high end. The majority of people spend $250 or less on gpus. They get the job for most.
Guru3d users on average are a very small part of the big picture. Open you'r damn eyes and stop being an ignorant fool.
Yes while you say some stuff about Nvidia is crap like the Geforce experience. If Nvidia mid rage cards were crap like you are claiming then how come they are doing so well that AMD needs do a refresh of their Polaris cards? Nvidia has done some stupid stuff like the 1060 3GB for example.
You have serious problem.
As someone who uses both sides in multiple rigs in my house, nvidia software sucks in many ways.
The sheer amount it takes to open with an SSD is absolutely pathetic.
The fact many a few of my nvidia gpus ,gtx 950,gtx 650ti boost, do not scale correctly with HDMI on my TV and can not use 1920x1080 wihtout scaling it to the screen, but a geforce 8400 gs works perfectly fine with no scaling.
My HD 5770 works perfectly with my TV even with legacy drivers under windows 10. Both sides have issues in different ways.
Geforce experience is a pile of forced ****. I have it installed to use game streaming to my phone with limelight.
And most of all, gues what, Nvidia is garbage in gpu market except high end. The majority of people spend $250 or less on gpus. They get the job for most.
Guru3d users on average are a very small part of the big picture. Open you'r damn eyes and stop being an ignorant fool.
Yes while you say some stuff about Nvidia is crap like the Geforce experience. If Nvidia mid rage cards were crap like you are claiming then how come they are doing so well that AMD needs do a refresh of their Polaris cards? Nvidia has done some stupid stuff like the 1060 3GB for example.
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Funny thing I noticed in it...is his press driver seem much older then the one leaked this morning on reddit from a Fry's mistake of selling the RX 580 last night.
The XFX RX 580 the guy got from Fry's has drver version 22.19.147.0 (Crimson Press) Beta on the driver install CD and his in the leaked benchmark 22.19.128.33 (Crimson Press) Beta.
Just noting performance might be affected by that as well the power issue he describes.