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Radeon RX 470 Benchmarks
In the slide-deck that was released yesterday some benchmark numbers have been, well almost hidden. But they are there. I added them into two charts to check out.
Let me clearly state that the benchmarks have been performed by AMD so we cannot verify quality settings. The scores have been derived from the footnotes of the PDF:
Polaris 10 2.8x performance per watt: Testing conducted by AMD Performance Labs as of May 10, 2016 on the AMD Radeon™ RX 470 (110w) and AMD Radeon™ R9 270X (180w),ona test systemcomprising i7 5960X @ 3.0 GHz 16GB memory, AMD Radeon Software driver 16.20 and Windows 10.. Using 3DMark Fire Strike preset 1080p the scores were 9090 and 5787 respectively. Using Ashes ofthe Singularity 1080P High, the scores were 46 fps and 28.1 fps respectively. Using Hitman 1080p High, the scores were 60 fpsand 27.6 fps respectively. Using Overwatch1080p Max settings, the scoreswere 121 fps and 76 fps respectively. Using Performance/Board power, the resulting average across the 4 different titles was a perf per watt of 2.8X vs the Radeon R9 270X. Test results are not average andmay vary.
Good to see is that they used a test-setup that matches ours:
Testing conducted by AMD Performance Labs as of June 10, 2016 on the Radeon™ RX 480 8GB and R9 380 on a test system comprising Intel i7-5960X, 16GB DDR4-2666 RAM, GigabyteX99-UD4, Radeon Software Crimson Edition 16.1.1, and Win10 64-bit. Using the Steam VR Performance test, Radeon RX 480 scored 6.3 and Radeon R9 380 scored 3.6. Performance may vary based onuse of latest driver versions. Test results are not average and may vary.
BTW theres also mention of a mobile part called AMD Radeon RX 480M based on Polaris 11:
Testing conducted by AMD Performance Labs as of May 10, 2016 on 3DMark 11 and 3DMark Firestrikeusing a test system comprising of an i7-4600M, 8GB, AMD Radeon driver 16.20. AMD Radeon R9 M280X (14CUs) scored 5700 and 3500 with a board power of 82W. AMD Radeon RX 480M (16CUs) scored 7200 and 4070 with a board power of 35W. Using Performance/Board power, the resulting average across the 2 different titles was a perf per watt of 2.8X vs the Radeon R9 M280X .
The RX 470 would use roughly 110W, benchmarks used are 3DMarl FireStrike, Ashes of the Singularity, Hitman and Overwatch. The card is only being compared to a 270X, however FireStrike is normalized and was placed into our regular chart:
Here you go, have a peek:
More Info on Radeon RX 460 - 470 and 480 from new Slide deck - 06/14/2016 07:48 PM
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AMD has presented they will release two new graphics cards: the RX 470 and RX 460. The two cards are positioned below the previously announced RX 480. Although it is not mentioned, it is rather likely...
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Some photos of what seems to be SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 480 NITRO 8GB have surfaced on the WWW. The card from Sapphire is their Nitro model and will be a dual-slot dual-fan based product....
AMD Radeon Rx 480 3DMark 11 Performance Benchmark Surfaces #2 - 06/11/2016 07:41 AM
I'll post a little addendum on the news coverage from yesterday where a Radeon Rx 480 3DMark 11 Performance surfaced at futuremark. Yesterday I didn't look too deeply into the database, however eve...
AMD Radeon Rx 480 3DMark 11 Performance Benchmark Surfaces - 06/10/2016 12:53 PM
Yes, I am fairly certain this is the real thing you guys, in the Futuremark database an entry appeared under device ID 67DF:C7, that Hardware ID has been tied to the AMD Radeon RX 480 for a while no...
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#5289985 Posted on: 06/15/2016 12:49 PM
It's also possible that some people just want options and they are disappointed that AMD isn't giving them any at the 1070/1080 performance level.
What I don't understand is why people are surprised by this. The rumors/leaks pointed to Polaris being a midrange card since last year. AMD said they were targeting the midrange/lowend market throughout the first half of this year. Raja did an interview with Arstechnica specifically saying that Polaris wasn't going to compete with the 1080 like three months ago.
Now they launch their stuff and everyone is surprised that what they were saying the whole time is true. Makes no sense to me
Yes, and their look is very biased.
They look at AMD as bad for not releasing same performance class cards as nVidia.
Everything would be perfect if nVidia released 1st low end and AMD 'followed'.
Because that's what their mind tells them is right. AMD making their decision, different from nVidia? No way to do that.
It's also possible that some people just want options and they are disappointed that AMD isn't giving them any at the 1070/1080 performance level.
What I don't understand is why people are surprised by this. The rumors/leaks pointed to Polaris being a midrange card since last year. AMD said they were targeting the midrange/lowend market throughout the first half of this year. Raja did an interview with Arstechnica specifically saying that Polaris wasn't going to compete with the 1080 like three months ago.
Now they launch their stuff and everyone is surprised that what they were saying the whole time is true. Makes no sense to me
Yes, and their look is very biased.
They look at AMD as bad for not releasing same performance class cards as nVidia.
Everything would be perfect if nVidia released 1st low end and AMD 'followed'.
Because that's what their mind tells them is right. AMD making their decision, different from nVidia? No way to do that.
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#5289994 Posted on: 06/15/2016 01:13 PM
So basicly AMD is forcing people into Crossfire to get the same Performance as a 1070 for Less Money.
Sucks if you hate Crossfire and want Single Card performance of the 1070.
So basically you do not understand market segments
So basicly AMD is forcing people into Crossfire to get the same Performance as a 1070 for Less Money.
Sucks if you hate Crossfire and want Single Card performance of the 1070.
So basically you do not understand market segments
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#5289996 Posted on: 06/15/2016 01:14 PM
You're actually looking at more money though.
RX 480 8GB crossfire will be roughly £478
GTX1070 is roughly £400, some cheaper, some more expensive.
On the otherhand, it'll probably beat both pascal cards in supported games.
It is 520 euro in my country, so not even close to 400..
You're actually looking at more money though.
RX 480 8GB crossfire will be roughly £478
GTX1070 is roughly £400, some cheaper, some more expensive.
On the otherhand, it'll probably beat both pascal cards in supported games.
It is 520 euro in my country, so not even close to 400..
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#5289997 Posted on: 06/15/2016 01:16 PM
Yes, and their look is very biased.
They look at AMD as bad for not releasing same performance class cards as nVidia.
Everything would be perfect if nVidia released 1st low end and AMD 'followed'.
Because that's what their mind tells them is right. AMD making their decision, different from nVidia? No way to do that.
Idk man, It doesn't always have to be bias.
I'm in the market for a new card and I've owned several AMD/ATi products in the past -- 9800XT, X1950XT and the 4770X2. I would gladly go with AMD again if they offered a competitive product that would be an upgrade for me, but they don't have that at the moment and Nvidia does. And it's not that I disagree with their reasoning, or don't see their strategy, but their strategy doesn't benefit me. So why can't I be disappointed about that without being bias?
It's not like cars where there are 10 different companies all building similar products. There are two and one temporarily forfeited the portion of the market that caters to me. Now I'm stuck here either buying Nvidia or waiting longer for Vega/GP102.
Yes, and their look is very biased.
They look at AMD as bad for not releasing same performance class cards as nVidia.
Everything would be perfect if nVidia released 1st low end and AMD 'followed'.
Because that's what their mind tells them is right. AMD making their decision, different from nVidia? No way to do that.
Idk man, It doesn't always have to be bias.
I'm in the market for a new card and I've owned several AMD/ATi products in the past -- 9800XT, X1950XT and the 4770X2. I would gladly go with AMD again if they offered a competitive product that would be an upgrade for me, but they don't have that at the moment and Nvidia does. And it's not that I disagree with their reasoning, or don't see their strategy, but their strategy doesn't benefit me. So why can't I be disappointed about that without being bias?
It's not like cars where there are 10 different companies all building similar products. There are two and one temporarily forfeited the portion of the market that caters to me. Now I'm stuck here either buying Nvidia or waiting longer for Vega/GP102.
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#5290002 Posted on: 06/15/2016 01:19 PM
Yes it is.
520 EUR = £411.62
OCUK also KFA2 GTX1070 for £365 = 458.11 EUR
but, if you insist that £11 is not even close, ok.
It is 520 euro in my country, so not even close to 400..
Yes it is.
520 EUR = £411.62
OCUK also KFA2 GTX1070 for £365 = 458.11 EUR
but, if you insist that £11 is not even close, ok.
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#5290003 Posted on: 06/15/2016 01:20 PM
It's also possible that some people just want options and they are disappointed that AMD isn't giving them any at the 1070/1080 performance level.
What I don't understand is why people are surprised by this. The rumors/leaks pointed to Polaris being a midrange card since last year. AMD said they were targeting the midrange/lowend market throughout the first half of this year. Raja did an interview with Arstechnica specifically saying that Polaris wasn't going to compete with the 1080 like three months ago.
Now they launch their stuff and everyone is surprised that what they were saying the whole time is true. Makes no sense to me
It's the AMD hype train! They hyped us all up with their claims of 200FPS on 4K at 10W!
Jokes aside, I don't understand the confusion either.
It's also possible that some people just want options and they are disappointed that AMD isn't giving them any at the 1070/1080 performance level.
What I don't understand is why people are surprised by this. The rumors/leaks pointed to Polaris being a midrange card since last year. AMD said they were targeting the midrange/lowend market throughout the first half of this year. Raja did an interview with Arstechnica specifically saying that Polaris wasn't going to compete with the 1080 like three months ago.
Now they launch their stuff and everyone is surprised that what they were saying the whole time is true. Makes no sense to me
It's the AMD hype train! They hyped us all up with their claims of 200FPS on 4K at 10W!
Jokes aside, I don't understand the confusion either.
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#5290006 Posted on: 06/15/2016 01:26 PM
Yes it is.
520 EUR = £411.62
OCUK also KFA2 GTX1070 for £365 = 458.11 EUR
but, if you insist that £11 is not even close, ok.
Hey, i know. Let's all buy KFA2 1070/1080 becouse we cannot afford any other brand.
Its silly how when it comes to pricing all of you post KFA2 cards.
Yes it is.
520 EUR = £411.62
OCUK also KFA2 GTX1070 for £365 = 458.11 EUR
but, if you insist that £11 is not even close, ok.
Hey, i know. Let's all buy KFA2 1070/1080 becouse we cannot afford any other brand.
Its silly how when it comes to pricing all of you post KFA2 cards.
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#5290015 Posted on: 06/15/2016 01:34 PM
Hey, i know. Let's all buy KFA2 1070/1080 becouse we cannot afford any other brand.
Its silly how when it comes to pricing all of you post KFA2 cards.
OK. Fair enough.
On the other-hand, would you agree £411 is close to £400 or not?
Hey, i know. Let's all buy KFA2 1070/1080 becouse we cannot afford any other brand.
Its silly how when it comes to pricing all of you post KFA2 cards.
OK. Fair enough.
On the other-hand, would you agree £411 is close to £400 or not?
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#5290019 Posted on: 06/15/2016 01:36 PM
Hey, i know. Let's all buy KFA2 1070/1080 becouse we cannot afford any other brand.
Its silly how when it comes to pricing all of you post KFA2 cards.
It is very common brand. Look around, nearly every 2nd person buys them.
Ups, no? Sorry.
But to add into thread. I just found a moment and calculated (approximate) RX-480 size + transistor count from available pictures as some are pretty detailed.
GPU is sized: 14.6 x 18.7mm = 273mm^2
That brings around 6.7B transistors. It is not as small As I expected. And not much smaller than GTX 1070/1080.
Hey, i know. Let's all buy KFA2 1070/1080 becouse we cannot afford any other brand.
Its silly how when it comes to pricing all of you post KFA2 cards.
It is very common brand. Look around, nearly every 2nd person buys them.
Ups, no? Sorry.
But to add into thread. I just found a moment and calculated (approximate) RX-480 size + transistor count from available pictures as some are pretty detailed.
GPU is sized: 14.6 x 18.7mm = 273mm^2
That brings around 6.7B transistors. It is not as small As I expected. And not much smaller than GTX 1070/1080.
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#5290023 Posted on: 06/15/2016 01:38 PM
OK. Fair enough.
On the other-hand, would you agree £411 is close to £400 or not?
I think Zero misunderstood. We dont really take prices in GBR but Eur. So whats happening in UK and how much it cost im not familiar.
OK. Fair enough.
On the other-hand, would you agree £411 is close to £400 or not?
I think Zero misunderstood. We dont really take prices in GBR but Eur. So whats happening in UK and how much it cost im not familiar.
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#5290024 Posted on: 06/15/2016 01:39 PM
It is very common brand. Look around, nearly every 2nd person buys them.
Ups, no? Sorry.
But to add into thread. I just found a moment and calculated (approximate) RX-480 size + transistor count from available pictures as some are pretty detailed.
GPU is sized: 14.6 x 18.7mm = 273mm^2
That brings around 6.7B transistors. It is not as small As I expected. And not much smaller than GTX 1070/1080.
What's you preliminary verdict then? Is that good or bad?
It is very common brand. Look around, nearly every 2nd person buys them.
Ups, no? Sorry.
But to add into thread. I just found a moment and calculated (approximate) RX-480 size + transistor count from available pictures as some are pretty detailed.
GPU is sized: 14.6 x 18.7mm = 273mm^2
That brings around 6.7B transistors. It is not as small As I expected. And not much smaller than GTX 1070/1080.
What's you preliminary verdict then? Is that good or bad?
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#5290025 Posted on: 06/15/2016 01:42 PM
Let me re-word it for you.
Is 505 EUR close to 520 EUR or not?
And yes, I do think he missed the £ symbol in my original post.
I think Zero misunderstood. We dont really take prices in GBR but Eur. So whats happening in UK and how much it cost im not familiar.
Let me re-word it for you.
Is 505 EUR close to 520 EUR or not?
And yes, I do think he missed the £ symbol in my original post.
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#5290033 Posted on: 06/15/2016 01:49 PM
Let me re-word it for you.
Is 505 EUR close to 520 EUR or not?
And yes, I do think he missed the £ symbol in my original post.
What happens on the UE is that not all prices are acordingly translated from one currency (dolar or pound) to €€.
What in UK is 400 pounds, on UE goes over 550€ if not higher, when it should be 511€.
Why, i dont know, but thats what happens XD
Let me re-word it for you.
Is 505 EUR close to 520 EUR or not?
And yes, I do think he missed the £ symbol in my original post.
What happens on the UE is that not all prices are acordingly translated from one currency (dolar or pound) to €€.
What in UK is 400 pounds, on UE goes over 550€ if not higher, when it should be 511€.
Why, i dont know, but thats what happens XD
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#5290034 Posted on: 06/15/2016 01:50 PM
It is very common brand. Look around, nearly every 2nd person buys them.
Ups, no? Sorry.
But to add into thread. I just found a moment and calculated (approximate) RX-480 size + transistor count from available pictures as some are pretty detailed.
GPU is sized: 14.6 x 18.7mm = 273mm^2
That brings around 6.7B transistors. It is not as small As I expected. And not much smaller than GTX 1070/1080.
BTW, this is the problem with the mentality going on regarding pricing.
Everyone wants the cheapest, but, best card for the money.
I myself find such products questionable, well, I and I'm sure others do when they're so cheap compared to the competition that we automatically think there's some severe corner-cutting on components quality.
However, those same people will champion low-cost products like RX 480 without even knowing anything about the quality and just assume it's "comparable".
I firmly believe we get what we pay for, even with the current price gouging going on. There is no magic long-life product that's cheap, but, that's just my opinion.
Even going AMD route, I would much rather trust their higher-priced products than cheaper ones.
It is very common brand. Look around, nearly every 2nd person buys them.
Ups, no? Sorry.
But to add into thread. I just found a moment and calculated (approximate) RX-480 size + transistor count from available pictures as some are pretty detailed.
GPU is sized: 14.6 x 18.7mm = 273mm^2
That brings around 6.7B transistors. It is not as small As I expected. And not much smaller than GTX 1070/1080.
BTW, this is the problem with the mentality going on regarding pricing.
Everyone wants the cheapest, but, best card for the money.
I myself find such products questionable, well, I and I'm sure others do when they're so cheap compared to the competition that we automatically think there's some severe corner-cutting on components quality.
However, those same people will champion low-cost products like RX 480 without even knowing anything about the quality and just assume it's "comparable".
I firmly believe we get what we pay for, even with the current price gouging going on. There is no magic long-life product that's cheap, but, that's just my opinion.
Even going AMD route, I would much rather trust their higher-priced products than cheaper ones.
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We will have to wait for Vega to see higher end GPUs. I do not understand why everyone is comparing these cards to the 1070/1080. They are mainstream gpus.
It seems they some nvidia fans just want a higher cheaper permforming card to force prices down on the 1070/1080.
It's also possible that some people just want options and they are disappointed that AMD isn't giving them any at the 1070/1080 performance level.
What I don't understand is why people are surprised by this. The rumors/leaks pointed to Polaris being a midrange card since last year. AMD said they were targeting the midrange/lowend market throughout the first half of this year. Raja did an interview with Arstechnica specifically saying that Polaris wasn't going to compete with the 1080 like three months ago.
Now they launch their stuff and everyone is surprised that what they were saying the whole time is true. Makes no sense to me