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#5532030 Posted on: 03/27/2018 08:34 AM
I would have just thought that google, of all the companies out there, would have the resources and the time, to have a working version for WinARM....
Just seemed a bit fishy to me....
I would have just thought that google, of all the companies out there, would have the resources and the time, to have a working version for WinARM....
Just seemed a bit fishy to me....
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#5532240 Posted on: 03/27/2018 04:33 PM
What, so MS decide what runs natively, and what doesn't ?
They must have gimped it somehow.....
It is an ARM architecture, so applications that can talk ARM run natively, the ones that cant talk ARM have to run in emulation mode. Easy enough?
What, so MS decide what runs natively, and what doesn't ?
They must have gimped it somehow.....
It is an ARM architecture, so applications that can talk ARM run natively, the ones that cant talk ARM have to run in emulation mode. Easy enough?
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#5532619 Posted on: 03/28/2018 12:30 PM
I was pointing out that Chrome should have an ARM compatible version by now, since it is used in many ARM devices (Android phones?), including Chromebooks iirc. Easy Enough ?
It is an ARM architecture, so applications that can talk ARM run natively, the ones that cant talk ARM have to run in emulation mode. Easy enough?
I was pointing out that Chrome should have an ARM compatible version by now, since it is used in many ARM devices (Android phones?), including Chromebooks iirc. Easy Enough ?
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#5534820 Posted on: 04/04/2018 03:52 PM
Not really.
Your exact statement was: "What, so MS decide what runs natively, and what doesn't ? They must have gimped it somehow....."
Please explain how A=B?
Looks like you are just trying to pull yourself out. Well don't dig yourself a bigger hole then.
I was pointing out that Chrome should have an ARM compatible version by now, since it is used in many ARM devices (Android phones?), including Chromebooks iirc. Easy Enough ?
Not really.
Your exact statement was: "What, so MS decide what runs natively, and what doesn't ? They must have gimped it somehow.....
"Please explain how A=B?
Looks like you are just trying to pull yourself out. Well don't dig yourself a bigger hole then.
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It's a matter of time and matter of will of ARM manufacturers. At the moment platform is not even released and din't gain even zero popularity. If ARM manufacturers will make more ARM processors, especially desktop and laptop-class processors, then it could gain some popularity. Then Google will thinks of making ARM version for Windows. For smaller devs it's not a big problem, as Visual Studio has ARM Win32 compilator since few years. Sure with popularity qt, delphi, free pascal etc will get support for ARM-Win32 compilation as well. For now it's just JIT x86-to-ARM translator.