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Prices of upcoming AMD Kaveri and Richland APUs Surface
AMD is getting ready to launch in January two Kaveri Accelerated Processing Units, that, by some reports, should boost both CPU and GPU performance by up to 20% - 30% compared to A10-6000 series APUs. Model numbers and specifications of new Kaveri processors emerged last week, and the A10-7700K and A10-7850K chips are now available for pre-order in US.
Based on the pre-order prices, the processors are $12 - $34 more expensive than boxed A10-6800K products. What's more, unheard of before A4-6320 and A6-6420K dual-core APUs are also available for pre-order. This is reported by CPU world today.
AMD A10-7000 series processors have 4 "Steamroller" CPU cores, 4 MB L2 cache and 95 Watt Thermal Design Power. The A10-7700K has the maximum Turbo Core frequency of 3.8 GHz, and from earlier reports we also know that it integrates R7 series GPU with 384 Radeon cores. The pre-order price of this part is $167. The flagship A10-7850K has 200 MHz higher maximum Turbo Core speed, and has the number of Radeon cores increased to 512. Being faster, it is also more expensive. The chip is priced at $189, which suggests that its official price could be higher than the current price of the A10-6800K ($142).
New dual-core A4-6320 and A6-6420K microprocessors are based on older "Piledriver" architecture. Both chips come with 1 MB L2 cache and 65 Watt TDP. The A6-6420K offers 100 MHz higher maximum Turbo Core speed than the A6-6400K, and we suspect that its base frequency is also 100 MHz higher. The A4-6320 is listed with 3.9 GHz maximum clock, that is the same as the A4-6300, which is either incorrect, or the APU has some other enhancement or enhancements that make it faster than its predecessor. Pre-order prices of the A4-6320 and A6-6420K are $57.30 and $78.50, and those are very close to current prices of A4-6300 and A6-6400K in the same store.
All new processors should work in socket FM2+ motherboards. Since future dual-core Richland and quad-core Kaveri parts were listed simultaneously, we suspect that they will be launched together. Listed below is a summary of APU specifications:
| Model | Cores | Frequency / Turbo | L2 cache | Graphics | GPU Frequency | TDP | Price |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| A4-6320 | 2 | No data / 3.9 GHz | 1 MB | HD 8000 series | No data | 65W | $57.30 |
| A6-6420K | 2 | 4 / 4.2 GHz | 1 MB | HD 8000 series | No data | 65W | $75.85 |
| A10-7700K | 4 | 3.5 / 3.8 GHz | 4 MB | R7 series | 720 MHz | 95W | $167 |
| A10-7850K | 4 | 3.7 / 4 GHz | 4 MB | R7 series | 720 MHz | 95W | $189.24 |
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#4720861 Posted on: 12/10/2013 02:26 AM
You guys forgot one thing about the price...
It is not a CPU with integrated on die IGP...
It is actually an AMD Radeon with some CPU's
Yep my thoughts exactly.
These are the APU's where the GPU actually contains what AMD call "Radeon Cores" based on GCN architecture. Basically they are more in line with the APU's inside the Xbox One and PS4. Not identical by any means the clock speeds are MUCH higher on these desktop parts but their GPU core count will be much lower. PS4 has the most with 1152 "Radeon Cores" or shaders. I reckon these will have from the bottom around 120-300 shaders and the top end will be around 500-800. The top end will probably be equivalent to the GPU performance of a HD4870. Which considering the price now, and the boost in CPU performance your looking at a VERY nice purchase indeed. There might even be some room with decent cooling for overclocking as well.
If your on a tight budget these chips will be a no brainer to be honest. Buy one of these top end chips, and use the left over cash you would of spent on a mid-high end GPU for some beastly 2400MHz DDDR3 memory and game away at 1080p with certain settings turned down obviously.
They would make for a pretty beastly HTPC/Living Room Gaming PC.
EDIT:
HOLD ON A MINUTE!!!
Just realized, if these DO contain "Radeon Cores" as they call them. Using the GCN architecture... Then will Mantle work with them????
Maybe this is what AMD had in mind all long!
You guys forgot one thing about the price...
It is not a CPU with integrated on die IGP...
It is actually an AMD Radeon with some CPU's
Yep my thoughts exactly.
These are the APU's where the GPU actually contains what AMD call "Radeon Cores" based on GCN architecture. Basically they are more in line with the APU's inside the Xbox One and PS4. Not identical by any means the clock speeds are MUCH higher on these desktop parts but their GPU core count will be much lower. PS4 has the most with 1152 "Radeon Cores" or shaders. I reckon these will have from the bottom around 120-300 shaders and the top end will be around 500-800. The top end will probably be equivalent to the GPU performance of a HD4870. Which considering the price now, and the boost in CPU performance your looking at a VERY nice purchase indeed. There might even be some room with decent cooling for overclocking as well.
If your on a tight budget these chips will be a no brainer to be honest. Buy one of these top end chips, and use the left over cash you would of spent on a mid-high end GPU for some beastly 2400MHz DDDR3 memory and game away at 1080p with certain settings turned down obviously.
They would make for a pretty beastly HTPC/Living Room Gaming PC.
EDIT:
HOLD ON A MINUTE!!!
Just realized, if these DO contain "Radeon Cores" as they call them. Using the GCN architecture... Then will Mantle work with them????
Maybe this is what AMD had in mind all long!
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#4724059 Posted on: 12/14/2013 04:51 AM
It has already been posted that the full core will have 512 shaders, and be equivalent to a HD7750 which is beastly for a igpu. I also read it will crossfire with a R7 250 though I think the HD 7750 makes more sense.
As for mantle I think it is supposed to improve on any pc hardware by replacing crappy dx.
It has already been posted that the full core will have 512 shaders, and be equivalent to a HD7750 which is beastly for a igpu. I also read it will crossfire with a R7 250 though I think the HD 7750 makes more sense.
As for mantle I think it is supposed to improve on any pc hardware by replacing crappy dx.
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#4724185 Posted on: 12/14/2013 01:39 PM
It has already been posted that the full core will have 512 shaders, and be equivalent to a HD7750 which is beastly for a igpu. I also read it will crossfire with a R7 250 though I think the HD 7750 makes more sense.
As for mantle I think it is supposed to improve on any pc hardware by replacing crappy dx.
That's a 75W GPU normally no?
It has already been posted that the full core will have 512 shaders, and be equivalent to a HD7750 which is beastly for a igpu. I also read it will crossfire with a R7 250 though I think the HD 7750 makes more sense.
As for mantle I think it is supposed to improve on any pc hardware by replacing crappy dx.
That's a 75W GPU normally no?
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#4724197 Posted on: 12/14/2013 02:08 PM
EDIT:
HOLD ON A MINUTE!!!
Just realized, if these DO contain "Radeon Cores" as they call them. Using the GCN architecture... Then will Mantle work with them????
Maybe this is what AMD had in mind all long!
I think Mantle is going to be supported from now on in every AMD product release, both APU´s and GPU´s, so i think that they are going to support it.
Not only that but they are going to offer Battlefield 4 on their top APU because of that.
Mantle and Huma are the key points of Kaveri and Richland.
For an entry pc this is amazing stuff.
EDIT:
HOLD ON A MINUTE!!!
Just realized, if these DO contain "Radeon Cores" as they call them. Using the GCN architecture... Then will Mantle work with them????
Maybe this is what AMD had in mind all long!
I think Mantle is going to be supported from now on in every AMD product release, both APU´s and GPU´s, so i think that they are going to support it.
Not only that but they are going to offer Battlefield 4 on their top APU because of that.
Mantle and Huma are the key points of Kaveri and Richland.
For an entry pc this is amazing stuff.
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It is actually an AMD Radeon with some CPU's
Maybe software wil make better use of that Radeon and its parallel computing features .
Maybe AMD played the right card after all..