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#5439267 Posted on: 06/05/2017 10:09 AM
Have you seen Linus's video on X299/Kaby-Lake X? He basically explains how it's all a mess from intels part. An actually good video from him over a long time.
Intel is in major panic mode and are shooting themselves in the foot.
Have you seen Linus's video on X299/Kaby-Lake X? He basically explains how it's all a mess from intels part. An actually good video from him over a long time.
Intel is in major panic mode and are shooting themselves in the foot.
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#5439268 Posted on: 06/05/2017 10:10 AM
No USB 3.1 (without third party chips) on the x299? Well can't say i didn't predict that i guess. Wonder if Intel knows its 2017.
Also, i love intels randomness(sarcasm). I mean, from 8 core to 10 core, they are charging you 400 extra dollars for those 2 cores. Yet from 10 core to 12 core, they are charging you 200 extra dollars for those 2 cores. Then its another 200, then 300, then 300, down the line, per 2 cores extra. Now i know you could say "well there's more to it then that, there's extra PCI-Express lanes between the 8 and 10 core". Ok sure, but that's just a cop out to charge us more......
This platform was a result of some things.
One of them was the need for rush to release something to compete with Threadripper.
The other is Intel's pricing politics.
For such a price this platform is half baked at least.
The good news is that this year the CPU market will finally see some competition after almost a decade of stagnation.
No USB 3.1 (without third party chips) on the x299? Well can't say i didn't predict that i guess. Wonder if Intel knows its 2017.
Also, i love intels randomness(sarcasm). I mean, from 8 core to 10 core, they are charging you 400 extra dollars for those 2 cores. Yet from 10 core to 12 core, they are charging you 200 extra dollars for those 2 cores. Then its another 200, then 300, then 300, down the line, per 2 cores extra. Now i know you could say "well there's more to it then that, there's extra PCI-Express lanes between the 8 and 10 core". Ok sure, but that's just a cop out to charge us more......
This platform was a result of some things.
One of them was the need for rush to release something to compete with Threadripper.
The other is Intel's pricing politics.
For such a price this platform is half baked at least.
The good news is that this year the CPU market will finally see some competition after almost a decade of stagnation.
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#5439271 Posted on: 06/05/2017 10:16 AM
IPC has been improved meaning the number of instructions per clock-cycle have been improved. According to Intel, Skylake-X will see an up-to 8% perfofmance increase in IPC. It’s always hard to tell how correct that number is, as Intel can simply increase clock frequencies to get IPC up
There's a logic conflict in this statement. You can't increase IPC by raising clocks when the IPC is performance measure per clock-cycle. In reality Intel has tried to avoid revealing its CPU generations hardly increase the IPC by raising the clocks. A frequency increase is free performance if the processor can handle it, so it's the best for the manufacturer.
IPC has been improved meaning the number of instructions per clock-cycle have been improved. According to Intel, Skylake-X will see an up-to 8% perfofmance increase in IPC. It’s always hard to tell how correct that number is, as Intel can simply increase clock frequencies to get IPC up
There's a logic conflict in this statement. You can't increase IPC by raising clocks when the IPC is performance measure per clock-cycle. In reality Intel has tried to avoid revealing its CPU generations hardly increase the IPC by raising the clocks. A frequency increase is free performance if the processor can handle it, so it's the best for the manufacturer.
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#5439274 Posted on: 06/05/2017 10:25 AM
Correct, I have just rewritten that paragraph.
There's a logic conflict in this statement. You can't increase IPC by raising clocks when the IPC is performance measure per clock-cycle. In reality Intel has tried to avoid revealing its CPU generations hardly increase the IPC by raising the clocks. A frequency increase is free performance if the processor can handle it, so it's the best for the manufacturer.
Correct, I have just rewritten that paragraph.
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No USB 3.1 (without third party chips) on the x299? Well can't say i didn't predict that i guess. Wonder if Intel knows its 2017.
Also, i love intels randomness(sarcasm). I mean, from 8 core to 10 core, they are charging you 400 extra dollars for those 2 cores. Yet from 10 core to 12 core, they are charging you 200 extra dollars for those 2 cores. Then its another 200, then 300, then 300, down the line, per 2 cores extra. Now i know you could say "well there's more to it then that, there's extra PCI-Express lanes between the 8 and 10 core". Ok sure, but that's just a cop out to charge us more......