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Little is safe on the web, and once things leak they do spread like wildfire. Before we dive into the information (and there is a lot to cover) we want to apply the disclaimer that all this is unconfirmed information, but these are rather juicy details.
The information was posted by YouTuber Jim from AdoredTV and followed by wccftech involves the upcoming Ryzen 3000 lineup. In his video he talks about detailed information about the next-generation Ryzen processors. Last months we've already heard about ZEN2 at 7nm on the Epyc platform with its chiplet design, and that would apply to Ryzen 3000 as well. Again, please take the information with a grain of salt and the usual healthy disclaimers in mind.
It is mentioned that Ryzen 3000 would start with six cores for entry-level running up-to sixteen cores for high-end. The good stuff can get Turbo frequencies over 5 GHz. If true, this all might just be what the doctor ordered for AMD.
AMD Ryzen 3000 series assumed specifications
| AMD Ryzen | Base Clock | Turbo Clock | Cores/Threads | TDP | Price | Announced |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ryzen 3 3300 | 3.2GHz | 4.0GHz | 6/12 | 50W | $99 | CES |
| Ryzen 3 3300X | 3.5GHz | 4.3GHz | 6/12 | 65W | $129 | CES |
| Ryzen 3 3300G | 3.0GHz | 3.8GHz | 6/12 | 65W | $129 | Q3 2019 |
| Ryzen 5 3600 | 3.6GHz | 4.4GHz | 8/16 | 65W | $178 | CES |
| Ryzen 5 3600X | 4.0GHz | 4.8GHz | 8/16 | 95W | $229 | CES |
| Ryzen 5 3600G | 3.2GHz | 4.0GHz | 8/16 | 95W | $199 | Q3 2019 |
| Ryzen 7 3700 | 3.8GHz | 4.6GHz | 12/24 | 95W | $299 | CES |
| Ryzen 7 3700X | 4.2GHz | 5.0GHz | 12/24 | 105W | $329 | CES |
| Ryzen 9 3800X | 3.9GHz | 4.7GHz | 16/32 | 125W | $449 | CES |
| Ryzen 9 3850X | 4.3GHz | 5.1GHz | 16/32 | 135W | $499 | May 2019 |
Ryzen 3 3300X, 3300 and 3300G (6c/12t), up to 4.3 GHz
AMD would release four product segments, low, mainstream, high-end and let us call it enthusiast level. The range starts with Ryzen 3 3000 series processors called 3300X, 3300 & 3300G. The one with the G would get embedded graphics. Now the 'entry-level' procs would be six-core parts with twelve threads. I know, hard to believe right? Then again, AMD has been on a more-core race for a while now. The 3300G would feature an integrated Navi 12 IGP with 15 CUs. The Ryzen 3 3300X would be the fastest six-core Ryzen part. Here the proc would feature a turbo to 4.3 GHz all at a TDP of 65W. These procs would sit in a 100~149 USD price bracket.
Ryzen 5 3600X, 3600 and 3600G (8c/16t), up to 4.8 GHz
At prices between 200~300 USD we reach the mainstream segment with Ryzen 5 3000 CPUs in the form of the 3600X, 3600 and 3600G. The one with the G would get embedded graphics (Navi 12 with 14 activated CUs). You guessed it, these would be 8-core parts and 16 threads. The Ryzen 5 3600X would run towards 4.8 GHz on its turbo clock and has a 95 Watt TDP.
Ryzen 7 3700X, 3700 (12c/24t), up to 5.0 GHz
Here's where things get more serious, two 3700 series procs, both have 12 cores and 24 threads. The 3700 runs to 4.6 GHz and the X version, towards 5.0 GHz and sit in the 300~350 USD range.
Ryzen 9 3850X, 3800X (16c/32t), up to 5.1 GHz
It doesn't stop here though, there are two 16-core processors to be launched and both feature two 8 core Zen 2 dies and that's 32 threads at a price under 500 USD. The Ryzen 9 3850X does have a spicy TDP but an equally spicy turbo clock of 5.1 GHz.
If all true and not fake or a hoax (hey a lot of people have a lot of free time on their hands to post on Social platforms these days), this is looking to become a very interesting lineup from top to bottom, fingers crossed.
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#5613952 Posted on: 12/05/2018 06:14 PM
Damn, with how this looks and if accurate, AMD is really hitting hard for the coar warz and <3 dem jiggahurz if true or even close. Heck, looking at this spreadsheet makes my 2600 look "meh" at best.
Damn, with how this looks and if accurate, AMD is really hitting hard for the coar warz and <3 dem jiggahurz if true or even close. Heck, looking at this spreadsheet makes my 2600 look "meh" at best.
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#5613960 Posted on: 12/05/2018 06:27 PM
I know what you mean, hell a 3300X is going to kick my 1600X where it hurts :p
Damn, with how this looks and if accurate, AMD is really hitting hard for the coar warz and <3 dem jiggahurz if true or even close. Heck, looking at this spreadsheet makes my 2600 look "meh" at best.
I know what you mean, hell a 3300X is going to kick my 1600X where it hurts :p
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#5613964 Posted on: 12/05/2018 06:32 PM
Responding to multiple sceptic people here:
AMD has shown, with EPYC 2, that it has the technology to do it.
Zen 2 is a different architecture and both Lisa and Mark said 7nm was crucial for what they wanted to achieve for 2019.
If they removed the I/O from the core and are doing chiplets for EPYC 2, there is no other way of building Ryzen 3000 as the cores have no I/O themselves.
The top binned chips go to EPYC, the next ones should go to ThreadRipper, and only the rest for Ryzen.
As for people shouting "we don't need 16 core CPUs": you're totally free to stay with your 4c/8t 5Ghz "monster" for as long as you'd like to.
If a person just wants to game casually and login to facebook, the can pay 100 USD and buy a 6 core CPU.
If, on the other hand, they want to render some stuff and not pay a fortune for an 8 or 10 core CPU, they can just buy these new 8 to 10 core CPUs.
For enthusiasts that don't want to pay that premium for a TR motherboard or have the need for up to 32 cores, and still want to game on their working system, they can get 16 cores on the small AM4 socket and have a PC for many years.
If the rumours are true, I'll get myself a R5 3600.
I want a good and affordable upgrade for my ageing i5 2500k, both for gaming and some productivity stuff as I render some videos for youtube.
And I can't wait to know if the Navi rumours are true too, I so want an RX 3070!
Responding to multiple sceptic people here:
AMD has shown, with EPYC 2, that it has the technology to do it.
Zen 2 is a different architecture and both Lisa and Mark said 7nm was crucial for what they wanted to achieve for 2019.
If they removed the I/O from the core and are doing chiplets for EPYC 2, there is no other way of building Ryzen 3000 as the cores have no I/O themselves.
The top binned chips go to EPYC, the next ones should go to ThreadRipper, and only the rest for Ryzen.
As for people shouting "we don't need 16 core CPUs": you're totally free to stay with your 4c/8t 5Ghz "monster" for as long as you'd like to.
If a person just wants to game casually and login to facebook, the can pay 100 USD and buy a 6 core CPU.
If, on the other hand, they want to render some stuff and not pay a fortune for an 8 or 10 core CPU, they can just buy these new 8 to 10 core CPUs.
For enthusiasts that don't want to pay that premium for a TR motherboard or have the need for up to 32 cores, and still want to game on their working system, they can get 16 cores on the small AM4 socket and have a PC for many years.
If the rumours are true, I'll get myself a R5 3600.
I want a good and affordable upgrade for my ageing i5 2500k, both for gaming and some productivity stuff as I render some videos for youtube.
And I can't wait to know if the Navi rumours are true too, I so want an RX 3070!
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#5613965 Posted on: 12/05/2018 06:37 PM
To me this leak sounds just as real as the AdoredTV's NVidia RTX leaks from August.
His RTX leaks:
RTX 2080 being 50% faster than the 1080 (actually it's more like 30%).
RTX 2070 having 7GB of VRAM (actually 8GB) and being 40% faster than a 1070 (also more like 30%).
GTX 2060 having 5GB of VRAM (while 2060 doesn't exist yet, I don't believe this at all, I'm betting on 6GB like the 1060).
To me this leak sounds just as real as the AdoredTV's NVidia RTX leaks from August.
His RTX leaks:
RTX 2080 being 50% faster than the 1080 (actually it's more like 30%).
RTX 2070 having 7GB of VRAM (actually 8GB) and being 40% faster than a 1070 (also more like 30%).
GTX 2060 having 5GB of VRAM (while 2060 doesn't exist yet, I don't believe this at all, I'm betting on 6GB like the 1060).
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#5613966 Posted on: 12/05/2018 06:37 PM
Well if this is true or even close to being accurate im holding off my cpu and m/b upgrade and will now wait for AMD , i would so love to support AMD again after all the money i've given Intel over the years , how nice would it be not to have to keep changing m/b ,Fingers crossed for AMD .
Well if this is true or even close to being accurate im holding off my cpu and m/b upgrade and will now wait for AMD , i would so love to support AMD again after all the money i've given Intel over the years , how nice would it be not to have to keep changing m/b ,Fingers crossed for AMD .
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#5613968 Posted on: 12/05/2018 06:42 PM
Responding to multiple sceptic people here:
AMD has shown, with EPYC 2, that it has the technology to do it.
Zen 2 is a different architecture and both Lisa and Mark said 7nm was crucial for what they wanted to achieve for 2019.
If they removed the I/O from the core and are doing chiplets for EPYC 2, there is no other way of building Ryzen 3000 as the cores have no I/O themselves.
The top binned chips go to EPYC, the next ones should go to ThreadRipper, and only the rest for Ryzen.
As for people shouting "we don't need 16 core CPUs": you're totally free to stay with your 4c/8t 5Ghz "monster" for as long as you'd like to.
If a person just wants to game casually and login to facebook, the can pay 100 USD and buy a 6 core CPU.
If, on the other hand, they want to render some stuff and not pay a fortune for an 8 or 10 core CPU, they can just buy these new 8 to 10 core CPUs.
For enthusiasts that don't want to pay that premium for a TR motherboard or have the need for up to 32 cores, and still want to game on their working system, they can get 16 cores on the small AM4 socket and have a PC for many years.
If the rumours are true, I'll get myself a R5 3600.
I want a good and affordable upgrade for my ageing i5 2500k, both for gaming and some productivity stuff as I render some videos for youtube.
And I can't wait to know if the Navi rumours are true too, I so want an RX 3070!
I believe that they bin on 8-cores/6-cores/4-cores, and then bin that for power consumption.
They have a lot of die to choose from per wafer
Responding to multiple sceptic people here:
AMD has shown, with EPYC 2, that it has the technology to do it.
Zen 2 is a different architecture and both Lisa and Mark said 7nm was crucial for what they wanted to achieve for 2019.
If they removed the I/O from the core and are doing chiplets for EPYC 2, there is no other way of building Ryzen 3000 as the cores have no I/O themselves.
The top binned chips go to EPYC, the next ones should go to ThreadRipper, and only the rest for Ryzen.
As for people shouting "we don't need 16 core CPUs": you're totally free to stay with your 4c/8t 5Ghz "monster" for as long as you'd like to.
If a person just wants to game casually and login to facebook, the can pay 100 USD and buy a 6 core CPU.
If, on the other hand, they want to render some stuff and not pay a fortune for an 8 or 10 core CPU, they can just buy these new 8 to 10 core CPUs.
For enthusiasts that don't want to pay that premium for a TR motherboard or have the need for up to 32 cores, and still want to game on their working system, they can get 16 cores on the small AM4 socket and have a PC for many years.
If the rumours are true, I'll get myself a R5 3600.
I want a good and affordable upgrade for my ageing i5 2500k, both for gaming and some productivity stuff as I render some videos for youtube.
And I can't wait to know if the Navi rumours are true too, I so want an RX 3070!
I believe that they bin on 8-cores/6-cores/4-cores, and then bin that for power consumption.
They have a lot of die to choose from per wafer
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#5613972 Posted on: 12/05/2018 06:46 PM
Techpowerup just released their own leak with different screenshot form one of the users.
But most is accurate to AdoredTV! Excpet the Ryzen3 core count. In this link they seem to be 4/4 or 4/8 cores. But most importantly Ryzen 5,6,7,9 info seems to match!
https://www.techpowerup.com/250282/amd-3rd-generation-ryzen-probable-skus-specs-pricing-leaked
Techpowerup just released their own leak with different screenshot form one of the users.
But most is accurate to AdoredTV!
Excpet the Ryzen3 core count. In this link they seem to be 4/4 or 4/8 cores. But most importantly Ryzen 5,6,7,9 info seems to match!https://www.techpowerup.com/250282/amd-3rd-generation-ryzen-probable-skus-specs-pricing-leaked
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#5613974 Posted on: 12/05/2018 06:50 PM
To me this leak sounds just as real as the AdoredTV's NVidia RTX leaks from August.
His RTX leaks:
RTX 2080 being 50% faster than the 1080 (actually it's more like 30%).
RTX 2070 having 7GB of VRAM (actually 8GB) and being 40% faster than a 1070 (also more like 30%).
GTX 2060 having 5GB of VRAM (while 2060 doesn't exist yet, I don't believe this at all, I'm betting on 6GB like the 1060).
Yeah, he got a surprising number of things right about RTX. His speculations about Ryzen 3000 are also fairly reasonable, although I remain skeptical for the most part (I'd rather aim low and be surprised than aim high and be disappointed
). If these rumors are anything close to the truth then Zen 2 should be very interesting - and will definitely be my next upgrade.
To me this leak sounds just as real as the AdoredTV's NVidia RTX leaks from August.
His RTX leaks:
RTX 2080 being 50% faster than the 1080 (actually it's more like 30%).
RTX 2070 having 7GB of VRAM (actually 8GB) and being 40% faster than a 1070 (also more like 30%).
GTX 2060 having 5GB of VRAM (while 2060 doesn't exist yet, I don't believe this at all, I'm betting on 6GB like the 1060).
Yeah, he got a surprising number of things right about RTX. His speculations about Ryzen 3000 are also fairly reasonable, although I remain skeptical for the most part (I'd rather aim low and be surprised than aim high and be disappointed
). If these rumors are anything close to the truth then Zen 2 should be very interesting - and will definitely be my next upgrade.
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#5613975 Posted on: 12/05/2018 06:52 PM
That would be awesome news if they announced it for next week release. Intel response would be priceless.
That would be awesome news if they announced it for next week release. Intel response would be priceless.
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#5613982 Posted on: 12/05/2018 06:58 PM
Techpowerup just released their own leak with different screenshot form one of the users.
But most is accurate to AdoredTV! Excpet the Ryzen3 core count. In this link they seem to be 4/4 or 4/8 cores. But most importantly Ryzen 5,6,7,9 info seems to match!
https://www.techpowerup.com/250282/amd-3rd-generation-ryzen-probable-skus-specs-pricing-leaked
That looks like the Reddit leak info, if you watch Jims video again (I've now watched it 3 times!)
Techpowerup just released their own leak with different screenshot form one of the users.
But most is accurate to AdoredTV!
Excpet the Ryzen3 core count. In this link they seem to be 4/4 or 4/8 cores. But most importantly Ryzen 5,6,7,9 info seems to match!https://www.techpowerup.com/250282/amd-3rd-generation-ryzen-probable-skus-specs-pricing-leaked
That looks like the Reddit leak info, if you watch Jims video again (I've now watched it 3 times!)
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#5613984 Posted on: 12/05/2018 06:59 PM
I was being sarcastic when I said that it sounds real, it doesn't and I don't trust AdoredTV.
It's true that he did get a few things right about the RTX leak, but he got just as many things wrong, most likely this Ryzen leak has several things wrong with it as well.
Yeah, he got a surprising number of things right about RTX. His speculations about Ryzen 3000 are also fairly reasonable, although I remain skeptical for the most part (I'd rather aim low and be surprised than aim high and be disappointed ). If these rumors are anything close to the truth then Zen 2 should be very interesting - and will definitely be my next upgrade.
). If these rumors are anything close to the truth then Zen 2 should be very interesting - and will definitely be my next upgrade.I was being sarcastic when I said that it sounds real, it doesn't and I don't trust AdoredTV.
It's true that he did get a few things right about the RTX leak, but he got just as many things wrong, most likely this Ryzen leak has several things wrong with it as well.
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#5613987 Posted on: 12/05/2018 07:08 PM
To me this leak sounds just as real as the AdoredTV's NVidia RTX leaks from August.
His RTX leaks:
RTX 2080 being 50% faster than the 1080 (actually it's more like 30%).
RTX 2070 having 7GB of VRAM (actually 8GB) and being 40% faster than a 1070 (also more like 30%).
GTX 2060 having 5GB of VRAM (while 2060 doesn't exist yet, I don't believe this at all, I'm betting on 6GB like the 1060).
So - who had better information then? Maybe his was the best available. He's very clear about the confidence level of his conclusions. You should include those caveats with any such list of imperfections. Plus, your performance figures are completely dependent on test cases, which he details but you don't. As for 7GB vs 8GB, well OK; big deal.
To me this leak sounds just as real as the AdoredTV's NVidia RTX leaks from August.
His RTX leaks:
RTX 2080 being 50% faster than the 1080 (actually it's more like 30%).
RTX 2070 having 7GB of VRAM (actually 8GB) and being 40% faster than a 1070 (also more like 30%).
GTX 2060 having 5GB of VRAM (while 2060 doesn't exist yet, I don't believe this at all, I'm betting on 6GB like the 1060).
So - who had better information then? Maybe his was the best available. He's very clear about the confidence level of his conclusions. You should include those caveats with any such list of imperfections. Plus, your performance figures are completely dependent on test cases, which he details but you don't. As for 7GB vs 8GB, well OK; big deal.
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#5613998 Posted on: 12/05/2018 07:29 PM
I was being sarcastic when I said that it sounds real, it doesn't and I don't trust AdoredTV.
It's true that he did get a few things right about the RTX leak, but he got just as many things wrong, most likely this Ryzen leak has several things wrong with it as well.
Then you'd one of the few. Jim's leak got a lot of attention on reddit after RTX was revealed and he gained a lot of credibility because of it. Of course he wasn't 100% correct but he got a lot of things right - a lot more than just someone spouting conspiracy theories (which is the way many people see him, including our own Hilbert). The thing is, if this Ryzen leak is anything like the RTX leak then Zen 2 will be an amazing processor.
I was being sarcastic when I said that it sounds real, it doesn't and I don't trust AdoredTV.
It's true that he did get a few things right about the RTX leak, but he got just as many things wrong, most likely this Ryzen leak has several things wrong with it as well.
Then you'd one of the few. Jim's leak got a lot of attention on reddit after RTX was revealed and he gained a lot of credibility because of it. Of course he wasn't 100% correct but he got a lot of things right - a lot more than just someone spouting conspiracy theories (which is the way many people see him, including our own Hilbert). The thing is, if this Ryzen leak is anything like the RTX leak then Zen 2 will be an amazing processor.
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#5614004 Posted on: 12/05/2018 07:41 PM
Remember also that IF is doable over PCIe, and this will be PCIe4 iirc, so both the CPU's and GPU's chiplets will still have at least PCIe lanes to link to the I/O hub, probably 16/24/32 lanes each.
edit : cut (and inbetween themselves) after I/O hub.
Remember also that IF is doable over PCIe, and this will be PCIe4 iirc, so both the CPU's and GPU's chiplets will still have at least PCIe lanes to link to the I/O hub, probably 16/24/32 lanes each.
edit : cut (and inbetween themselves) after I/O hub.
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My oscillation overthruster is still fine, I just keep blowing flux capacitors - must be a short somewhere
Thanks for looking though