Possible Ryzen 3000 Proc specifications have leaked - up to 16 Cores and 5.1 GHz
Little is safe on the web, and once things leak they do spread like wildfire. Before we dive into the information (and there is a lot to cover) we want to apply the disclaimer that all this is unconfirmed information, but these are rather juicy details.
The information was posted by YouTuber Jim from AdoredTV and followed by wccftech involves the upcoming Ryzen 3000 lineup. In his video he talks about detailed information about the next-generation Ryzen processors. Last months we've already heard about ZEN2 at 7nm on the Epyc platform with its chiplet design, and that would apply to Ryzen 3000 as well. Again, please take the information with a grain of salt and the usual healthy disclaimers in mind.
It is mentioned that Ryzen 3000 would start with six cores for entry-level running up-to sixteen cores for high-end. The good stuff can get Turbo frequencies over 5 GHz. If true, this all might just be what the doctor ordered for AMD.
AMD Ryzen 3000 series assumed specifications
AMD Ryzen | Base Clock | Turbo Clock | Cores/Threads | TDP | Price | Announced |
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Ryzen 3 3300 | 3.2GHz | 4.0GHz | 6/12 | 50W | $99 | CES |
Ryzen 3 3300X | 3.5GHz | 4.3GHz | 6/12 | 65W | $129 | CES |
Ryzen 3 3300G | 3.0GHz | 3.8GHz | 6/12 | 65W | $129 | Q3 2019 |
Ryzen 5 3600 | 3.6GHz | 4.4GHz | 8/16 | 65W | $178 | CES |
Ryzen 5 3600X | 4.0GHz | 4.8GHz | 8/16 | 95W | $229 | CES |
Ryzen 5 3600G | 3.2GHz | 4.0GHz | 8/16 | 95W | $199 | Q3 2019 |
Ryzen 7 3700 | 3.8GHz | 4.6GHz | 12/24 | 95W | $299 | CES |
Ryzen 7 3700X | 4.2GHz | 5.0GHz | 12/24 | 105W | $329 | CES |
Ryzen 9 3800X | 3.9GHz | 4.7GHz | 16/32 | 125W | $449 | CES |
Ryzen 9 3850X | 4.3GHz | 5.1GHz | 16/32 | 135W | $499 | May 2019 |
Ryzen 3 3300X, 3300 and 3300G (6c/12t), up to 4.3 GHz
AMD would release four product segments, low, mainstream, high-end and let us call it enthusiast level. The range starts with Ryzen 3 3000 series processors called 3300X, 3300 & 3300G. The one with the G would get embedded graphics. Now the 'entry-level' procs would be six-core parts with twelve threads. I know, hard to believe right? Then again, AMD has been on a more-core race for a while now. The 3300G would feature an integrated Navi 12 IGP with 15 CUs. The Ryzen 3 3300X would be the fastest six-core Ryzen part. Here the proc would feature a turbo to 4.3 GHz all at a TDP of 65W. These procs would sit in a 100~149 USD price bracket.
Ryzen 5 3600X, 3600 and 3600G (8c/16t), up to 4.8 GHz
At prices between 200~300 USD we reach the mainstream segment with Ryzen 5 3000 CPUs in the form of the 3600X, 3600 and 3600G. The one with the G would get embedded graphics (Navi 12 with 14 activated CUs). You guessed it, these would be 8-core parts and 16 threads. The Ryzen 5 3600X would run towards 4.8 GHz on its turbo clock and has a 95 Watt TDP.
Ryzen 7 3700X, 3700 (12c/24t), up to 5.0 GHz
Here's where things get more serious, two 3700 series procs, both have 12 cores and 24 threads. The 3700 runs to 4.6 GHz and the X version, towards 5.0 GHz and sit in the 300~350 USD range.
Ryzen 9 3850X, 3800X (16c/32t), up to 5.1 GHz
It doesn't stop here though, there are two 16-core processors to be launched and both feature two 8 core Zen 2 dies and that's 32 threads at a price under 500 USD. The Ryzen 9 3850X does have a spicy TDP but an equally spicy turbo clock of 5.1 GHz.
If all true and not fake or a hoax (hey a lot of people have a lot of free time on their hands to post on Social platforms these days), this is looking to become a very interesting lineup from top to bottom, fingers crossed.
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Do we know if it will run @ 5GHz on all cores or just the one?
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These leaks seem dumb to me. First off, consumer really doesn't need 16 cores. Sure, everyone here will tell me now that this attitude enabled intel to suck for years, but its still true. More then 8 cores is wasted on consumers at this point in time. Anyway..
So why don't I just buy an 8 core then? I would. But why is there no 8 core with the same max clock as the 16-core? Thats not even logical. An 8-core could much more easily reach higher clocks, since less cores produce less heat.
If these are true, it seems like a really bad decision to "force" people to buy a 16-core if they want the highest clocks as well for ST performance. Make me an 8-core with the highest clocks possible, and thats the CPU I would buy. I don't need 16 cores. Keep 16-cores in ThreadRipper land, focus Ryzen on the best 8-core you can make.
A few points on that:
- The new pricing structure makes those extra cores Free and the clocks a Huge bonus over current Ryzen chips.
- When the hardware is there the software will follow.
The 7700k does not meet min specs for running BF V raytracing for example. It was an excellent chip, but trying to stick to lower cores holds things back.
Software is already struggling with 4c 8t.
Also worth noting that these leaked speed improvements are close to half of what 7nm was promised by TSMC as being capable of.
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16 cores at 5.0GHz seem too good to be true... Not to mention it would destroy 90% of the TR CPUs and it would be very difficult to improve on top of chips like that.
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They are most likely to show the single core boost.
i expect it to be able to do all core boost, just not within TDP. and not with Aircooling.
edit : The Anniversary Edition, or top R9 chip. will likely be sold either without a cooler at all or with the Watercooler provided. That would probably enable all core 5GHz boost.
edit2 : If the top bin Chips can hit 5GHz all core boost on Watercooling, that means that a lot of the lower binned chips (8c or 12c) will get pretty close under good cooling/Watercooling/AiO cooling.
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Looks like an upgrade in in my future.