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Little is safe on the web, and once things leak they do spread like wildfire. Before we dive into the information (and there is a lot to cover) we want to apply the disclaimer that all this is unconfirmed information, but these are rather juicy details.
The information was posted by YouTuber Jim from AdoredTV and followed by wccftech involves the upcoming Ryzen 3000 lineup. In his video he talks about detailed information about the next-generation Ryzen processors. Last months we've already heard about ZEN2 at 7nm on the Epyc platform with its chiplet design, and that would apply to Ryzen 3000 as well. Again, please take the information with a grain of salt and the usual healthy disclaimers in mind.
It is mentioned that Ryzen 3000 would start with six cores for entry-level running up-to sixteen cores for high-end. The good stuff can get Turbo frequencies over 5 GHz. If true, this all might just be what the doctor ordered for AMD.
AMD Ryzen 3000 series assumed specifications
| AMD Ryzen | Base Clock | Turbo Clock | Cores/Threads | TDP | Price | Announced |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ryzen 3 3300 | 3.2GHz | 4.0GHz | 6/12 | 50W | $99 | CES |
| Ryzen 3 3300X | 3.5GHz | 4.3GHz | 6/12 | 65W | $129 | CES |
| Ryzen 3 3300G | 3.0GHz | 3.8GHz | 6/12 | 65W | $129 | Q3 2019 |
| Ryzen 5 3600 | 3.6GHz | 4.4GHz | 8/16 | 65W | $178 | CES |
| Ryzen 5 3600X | 4.0GHz | 4.8GHz | 8/16 | 95W | $229 | CES |
| Ryzen 5 3600G | 3.2GHz | 4.0GHz | 8/16 | 95W | $199 | Q3 2019 |
| Ryzen 7 3700 | 3.8GHz | 4.6GHz | 12/24 | 95W | $299 | CES |
| Ryzen 7 3700X | 4.2GHz | 5.0GHz | 12/24 | 105W | $329 | CES |
| Ryzen 9 3800X | 3.9GHz | 4.7GHz | 16/32 | 125W | $449 | CES |
| Ryzen 9 3850X | 4.3GHz | 5.1GHz | 16/32 | 135W | $499 | May 2019 |
Ryzen 3 3300X, 3300 and 3300G (6c/12t), up to 4.3 GHz
AMD would release four product segments, low, mainstream, high-end and let us call it enthusiast level. The range starts with Ryzen 3 3000 series processors called 3300X, 3300 & 3300G. The one with the G would get embedded graphics. Now the 'entry-level' procs would be six-core parts with twelve threads. I know, hard to believe right? Then again, AMD has been on a more-core race for a while now. The 3300G would feature an integrated Navi 12 IGP with 15 CUs. The Ryzen 3 3300X would be the fastest six-core Ryzen part. Here the proc would feature a turbo to 4.3 GHz all at a TDP of 65W. These procs would sit in a 100~149 USD price bracket.
Ryzen 5 3600X, 3600 and 3600G (8c/16t), up to 4.8 GHz
At prices between 200~300 USD we reach the mainstream segment with Ryzen 5 3000 CPUs in the form of the 3600X, 3600 and 3600G. The one with the G would get embedded graphics (Navi 12 with 14 activated CUs). You guessed it, these would be 8-core parts and 16 threads. The Ryzen 5 3600X would run towards 4.8 GHz on its turbo clock and has a 95 Watt TDP.
Ryzen 7 3700X, 3700 (12c/24t), up to 5.0 GHz
Here's where things get more serious, two 3700 series procs, both have 12 cores and 24 threads. The 3700 runs to 4.6 GHz and the X version, towards 5.0 GHz and sit in the 300~350 USD range.
Ryzen 9 3850X, 3800X (16c/32t), up to 5.1 GHz
It doesn't stop here though, there are two 16-core processors to be launched and both feature two 8 core Zen 2 dies and that's 32 threads at a price under 500 USD. The Ryzen 9 3850X does have a spicy TDP but an equally spicy turbo clock of 5.1 GHz.
If all true and not fake or a hoax (hey a lot of people have a lot of free time on their hands to post on Social platforms these days), this is looking to become a very interesting lineup from top to bottom, fingers crossed.
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#5613915 Posted on: 12/05/2018 05:20 PM
Well 4.7 -5ghz on all cores and 8core 16thread is very doable.. no doubt about that. but if I can get that on a 12core 24thread even better..
Still don't know what to do with all those cores, would be more then happy with 8core 16thread Oced to 5ghz
That said R5 3600x or R7 3700x for me
Well 4.7 -5ghz on all cores and 8core 16thread is very doable.. no doubt about that. but if I can get that on a 12core 24thread even better..
Still don't know what to do with all those cores, would be more then happy with 8core 16thread Oced to 5ghz
That said R5 3600x or R7 3700x for me
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#5613918 Posted on: 12/05/2018 05:24 PM
there are a lot of ifs right here ...so IF those are true ....the 3600 going to be a KILLER value 179 for 8 cores that getting over 4.5 ghz and if they are unlocked ....somewhere around 4.7-4.8 with a bump on ipc .... i mean darn holding my breath for ces !
there are a lot of ifs right here ...so IF those are true ....the 3600 going to be a KILLER value 179 for 8 cores that getting over 4.5 ghz and if they are unlocked ....somewhere around 4.7-4.8 with a bump on ipc .... i mean darn holding my breath for ces !
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#5613922 Posted on: 12/05/2018 05:32 PM
Be interested in a high end APU.
Be interested in a high end APU.
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#5613927 Posted on: 12/05/2018 05:41 PM
Next year might seem a long time but it's slightly over a month and then we'll know what's up at CES...
Next year might seem a long time but it's slightly over a month and then we'll know what's up at CES...
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#5613928 Posted on: 12/05/2018 05:42 PM
Over current gen perhaps, but looking at the leaked prices (for whatever they may be worth), you still pay double for the 16c over the 8c.
So how much could a full power 8c/16t be instead?
ofc
Sticking to 8c 16t is going to be amazing value. Intel are slowly heading to chiplets too but have some catching up to do and will lose some significant market share until then I feel.
As a software developer - proper threading is hard. Games or desktop applications that use 8c fully right now are still extremely rare. Nevermind 16c/32t.
We do have ThreadRipper to offer somewhat affordable high core counts already.
Not wrong. Star Citizen game Devs were trying to get the most out of Citizen's hardware but currently found it hard to use over 6 cores without running into inefficiency walls.
I feel we will need a lot of software all the way from Windows core and on out through the ecosystem to be rewritten before large numbers of cores are easy to utilize in the avg consumer space.
(I believe Windows is also holding back proper use of super fast SSD's in some applications, we see faster SSDs = no improvements in load times for games for example. It was mentioned that Windows was holding things back)
Still are a surprising amount of apps/games that lose a Lot of performance when faced with too many cores and need to disable cores to get it to run as expected lol
I'm not arguging for 4c. 8c is quite an upgrade over that already.
Yup, glad Intel finally moved on from that point too
Over current gen perhaps, but looking at the leaked prices (for whatever they may be worth), you still pay double for the 16c over the 8c.
So how much could a full power 8c/16t be instead?
ofc
Sticking to 8c 16t is going to be amazing value. Intel are slowly heading to chiplets too but have some catching up to do and will lose some significant market share until then I feel.
As a software developer - proper threading is hard. Games or desktop applications that use 8c fully right now are still extremely rare. Nevermind 16c/32t.
We do have ThreadRipper to offer somewhat affordable high core counts already.
Not wrong. Star Citizen game Devs were trying to get the most out of Citizen's hardware but currently found it hard to use over 6 cores without running into inefficiency walls.
I feel we will need a lot of software all the way from Windows core and on out through the ecosystem to be rewritten before large numbers of cores are easy to utilize in the avg consumer space.
(I believe Windows is also holding back proper use of super fast SSD's in some applications, we see faster SSDs = no improvements in load times for games for example. It was mentioned that Windows was holding things back)
Still are a surprising amount of apps/games that lose a Lot of performance when faced with too many cores and need to disable cores to get it to run as expected lol
I'm not arguging for 4c. 8c is quite an upgrade over that already.
Yup, glad Intel finally moved on from that point too
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#5613931 Posted on: 12/05/2018 05:48 PM
ofc
Sticking to 8c 16t is going to be amazing value. Intel are slowly heading to chiplets too but have some catching up to do and will lose some significant market share until then I feel.
Not wrong. Star Citizen game Devs were trying to get the most out of Citizen's hardware but currently found it hard to use over 6 cores without running into inefficiency walls.
I feel we will need a lot of software all the way from Windows core and on out through the ecosystem to be rewritten before large numbers of cores are easy to utilize in the avg consumer space.
(I believe Windows is also holding back proper use of super fast SSD's in some applications, we see faster SSDs = no improvements in load times for games for example. It was mentioned that Windows was holding things back)
Still are a surprising amount of apps/games that lose a Lot of performance when faced with too many cores and need to disable cores to get it to run as expected lol
Yup, glad Intel finally moved on from that point too
2019, the year of AMD and Linux Gaming ? My, oh My
(with a very big WishStick)
ofc
Sticking to 8c 16t is going to be amazing value. Intel are slowly heading to chiplets too but have some catching up to do and will lose some significant market share until then I feel.
Not wrong. Star Citizen game Devs were trying to get the most out of Citizen's hardware but currently found it hard to use over 6 cores without running into inefficiency walls.
I feel we will need a lot of software all the way from Windows core and on out through the ecosystem to be rewritten before large numbers of cores are easy to utilize in the avg consumer space.
(I believe Windows is also holding back proper use of super fast SSD's in some applications, we see faster SSDs = no improvements in load times for games for example. It was mentioned that Windows was holding things back)
Still are a surprising amount of apps/games that lose a Lot of performance when faced with too many cores and need to disable cores to get it to run as expected lol
Yup, glad Intel finally moved on from that point too
2019, the year of AMD and Linux Gaming ? My, oh My
(with a very big WishStick)
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#5613934 Posted on: 12/05/2018 05:51 PM
Unfortunately it seems fake :<
https://twitter.com/KOMACHI-ENSAKA/status/1070073486154985472
AdoredTV (Jim) already commented in his own video, that he got his information way before Reddit leak happend.
So this seems to be real leak.
Unfortunately it seems fake :<
https://twitter.com/KOMACHI-ENSAKA/status/1070073486154985472
AdoredTV (Jim) already commented in his own video, that he got his information way before Reddit leak happend.
So this seems to be real leak.
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#5613938 Posted on: 12/05/2018 05:59 PM
These leaks seem dumb to me. First off, consumer really doesn't need 16 cores. Sure, everyone here will tell me now that this attitude enabled intel to suck for years, but its still true. More then 8 cores is wasted on consumers at this point in time. Anyway..
So why don't I just buy an 8 core then? I would. But why is there no 8 core with the same max clock as the 16-core? Thats not even logical. An 8-core could much more easily reach higher clocks, since less cores produce less heat.
If these are true, it seems like a really bad decision to "force" people to buy a 16-core if they want the highest clocks as well for ST performance. Make me an 8-core with the highest clocks possible, and thats the CPU I would buy. I don't need 16 cores. Keep 16-cores in ThreadRipper land, focus Ryzen on the best 8-core you can make.
You forget that if more and more people have 8+ core CPU's, then game developers and game engine developers are implementing this more into their games. Because there is a Mhz/Ghz wall soon ahead that we can't get over.
But we could get over the that wall when more cores are being started to utilize in application and games.
These leaks seem dumb to me. First off, consumer really doesn't need 16 cores. Sure, everyone here will tell me now that this attitude enabled intel to suck for years, but its still true. More then 8 cores is wasted on consumers at this point in time. Anyway..
So why don't I just buy an 8 core then? I would. But why is there no 8 core with the same max clock as the 16-core? Thats not even logical. An 8-core could much more easily reach higher clocks, since less cores produce less heat.
If these are true, it seems like a really bad decision to "force" people to buy a 16-core if they want the highest clocks as well for ST performance. Make me an 8-core with the highest clocks possible, and thats the CPU I would buy. I don't need 16 cores. Keep 16-cores in ThreadRipper land, focus Ryzen on the best 8-core you can make.
You forget that if more and more people have 8+ core CPU's, then game developers and game engine developers are implementing this more into their games. Because there is a Mhz/Ghz wall soon ahead that we can't get over.
But we could get over the that wall when more cores are being started to utilize in application and games.
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#5613939 Posted on: 12/05/2018 05:59 PM
Valve are apparently working hard on Proton (their own Wine version) for Steam Play...it would be interesting if they actually got any further than announcing they're doing something and actually achieving the results (well just high fps, no jutter/stutter, 50% shorter loading times, magical other things, running games from GoG) everyone wants to see. Even though €13 Win10 key offers from Guru3D 'affiliates' are very interesting, of course...
2019, the year of AMD and Linux Gaming ? My, oh My
Valve are apparently working hard on Proton (their own Wine version) for Steam Play...it would be interesting if they actually got any further than announcing they're doing something and actually achieving the results (well just high fps, no jutter/stutter, 50% shorter loading times, magical other things, running games from GoG) everyone wants to see. Even though €13 Win10 key offers from Guru3D 'affiliates' are very interesting, of course...
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#5613942 Posted on: 12/05/2018 06:02 PM
Honestly, with modest IPC improvement and even single core reaching 5GHz on 8C/16T, it would still be CPU I would upgrade to.
I do not believe in 12C/24T, but if that comes at that price... I am all in for 3700X.
@Texter : Proton is able to run 1/4 of my game library w/o enabling universal (forced) support. Not bad.
Do we know if it will run @ 5GHz on all cores or just the one?
Honestly, with modest IPC improvement and even single core reaching 5GHz on 8C/16T, it would still be CPU I would upgrade to.
I do not believe in 12C/24T, but if that comes at that price... I am all in for 3700X.
@Texter : Proton is able to run 1/4 of my game library w/o enabling universal (forced) support. Not bad.
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#5613943 Posted on: 12/05/2018 06:05 PM
Yeah, thats what i was thinking hit the Nail on the head. Maybe a rebirth of SteamOS ?
Valve are apparently working hard on Proton (their own Wine version) for Steam Play...it would be interesting if they actually got any further than announcing they're doing something and actually achieving the results (well just high fps, no jutter/stutter, 50% shorter loading times, magical other things, running games from GoG) everyone wants to see. Even though €13 Win10 key offers from Guru3D 'affiliates' are very interesting, of course...
Yeah, thats what i was thinking
hit the Nail on the head. Maybe a rebirth of SteamOS ?
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#5613944 Posted on: 12/05/2018 06:06 PM
Jims info from his sources is usually pretty accurate. I've been looking at this leak a lot today and it does seem plausible. The core counts because of the 8 core chiplets or CCXs, to the clock speeds and the TDPs given at those speeds. As for the prices.....
Just hope it's not all that far out. Plus Navi looks promising from a price / performance ratio to
Now to get my time machine working again.... anyone got a spare flux capacitor?
Jims info from his sources is usually pretty accurate. I've been looking at this leak a lot today and it does seem plausible. The core counts because of the 8 core chiplets or CCXs, to the clock speeds and the TDPs given at those speeds. As for the prices.....
Just hope it's not all that far out. Plus Navi looks promising from a price / performance ratio to
Now to get my time machine working again.... anyone got a spare flux capacitor?
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#5613948 Posted on: 12/05/2018 06:09 PM
Are AMD affected by the thing Intel CPU's are, where disabling HT on Intel is one of the remedies ?
edit : It would seem not.
Are AMD affected by the thing Intel CPU's are, where disabling HT on Intel is one of the remedies ?
edit : It would seem not.
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#5613949 Posted on: 12/05/2018 06:09 PM
Sorry mate, but I do think I've still got an oscillation overthruster lying around on a shelf somewhere...it used to make a noise but I haven't heard it in a while
anyone got a spare flux capacitor?
Sorry mate, but I do think I've still got an oscillation overthruster lying around on a shelf somewhere...it used to make a noise but I haven't heard it in a while
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- The new pricing structure makes those extra cores Free and the clocks a Huge bonus over current Ryzen chips.
Over current gen perhaps, but looking at the leaked prices (for whatever they may be worth), you still pay double for the 16c over the 8c.
So how much could a full power 8c/16t be instead?
- When the hardware is there the software will follow.
As a software developer - proper threading is hard. Games or desktop applications that use 8c fully right now are still extremely rare. Nevermind 16c/32t.
We do have ThreadRipper to offer somewhat affordable high core counts already.
The 7700k does not meet min specs for running BF V raytracing for example. It was an excellent chip, but trying to stick to lower cores holds things back.
Software is already struggling with 4c 8t.
I'm not arguging for 4c. 8c is quite an upgrade over that already.