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Possible Radeon RX Vega 3DMark Time Spy Benchmark Result
In our forums there have been posted some links towards a 3DMark TimeSpy results. Looking at the result set, that actually might be Radeon RX Vega. The result shows the card that is running Time Spy with with a score of 5950 points and a graphics score of 5721 points.
It might be Radeon RX Vega as the graphics card info in the result set shows a few familiar things. It is an undetected AMD card, is has 8GB of graphics memory and the strongest indicator of it all, the memory runs 700 MHz. In case you don’t remember, HBM memory on the Radeon R9 Fury ran at 500 MHz. With Vega having HBM2, that 700 MHz is very plausible.
The driver result set is a 22.19.384.20. The driver states, not FM approved e.g. it is a beta driver.
The score seems a bit low, the card runs 1200 MHz. If it is an engineering board we assume the clocks on the final products would be much higher. The card is tested on a X370 system with Ryzen 7 1800X processor. Perhaps we are assuming a little more than is possible and it is a Firepro card.
If you compare a little back and forth (Ryzen 7 1800X and out test platform only differ a few hundred points in Time Spy), you can assume a card in the GeForce GXT 1070 and when faster clocked 1080 performance bracket) at 5950 points. If you focus solely in the GPU score then 5721 points is spot on a GeForce GTX 1070.
Plese keep in mind, AMD might releasing several products based off Vega, e.g. something again a 1070, something against a 1080 and who knows something that climbs up towards the 1080 Ti. Let's hope so.
The score can be found publicly on 3DMark:
http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1544741
Let’s take this entry with a huge grain of salt, and take all the right disclaimers for granted okay?
Update, thanks to the sharp eyes of GeniusPr0 who spotted that the Devier Hardware ID for the entry is 687F:C1, and that leads to a story we covered back in December.
We also noticed that ID for a Doom Vulkan result set that was posted from an AMD event (check photo above) So yes, chances are getting much higher that this is the real thing. You can retrieve the Hardware_ID info once you place the result set into a comparison. You then will also notice that this result set was a fresh one, created on the 12th of April.
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#5426407 Posted on: 04/30/2017 04:07 PM
What else to say?
That's incredibly disappointing. Hope for AMD's sake it is not true
What else to say?
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#5426408 Posted on: 04/30/2017 04:11 PM
Let's put it this way, at reported clocks Fury X would be as fast or faster > It's OC'd Fury (X)
That's incredibly disappointing. Hope for AMD's sake it is not true
Let's put it this way, at reported clocks Fury X would be as fast or faster > It's OC'd Fury (X)
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#5426409 Posted on: 04/30/2017 04:14 PM
This could just be the cut down Vega that's supposed to compete with the 1070. Or it could be full Vega clocked lower.
People need to stop forming conclusions on these leaks. They're almost never accurate.
This could just be the cut down Vega that's supposed to compete with the 1070. Or it could be full Vega clocked lower.
People need to stop forming conclusions on these leaks. They're almost never accurate.
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#5426410 Posted on: 04/30/2017 04:14 PM
1) Fury is 4GB only
2) HBM memory cannot OC to 700 MHz
Let's put it this way, at reported clocks Fury X would be as fast or faster > It's OC'd Fury (X)
1) Fury is 4GB only
2) HBM memory cannot OC to 700 MHz
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#5426411 Posted on: 04/30/2017 04:19 PM
It's looks like rebranded Fury X, rather than just a new 2017 Vega product.
I don't belive that will look their flagship product in 2017.
It's looks like rebranded Fury X, rather than just a new 2017 Vega product.
I don't belive that will look their flagship product in 2017.
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#5426414 Posted on: 04/30/2017 04:23 PM
Hi Hilbert,
Doing a score compare reveals a driver name of 687F:C1
Hi Hilbert,
Doing a score compare reveals a driver name of 687F:C1
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#5426415 Posted on: 04/30/2017 04:28 PM
What's interesting is that the reported driver version is the OpenCL one (22.19.384.20), instead of the D3D one.
The clock could also just be a part of extrapolating performance, a leak to measure reactions, or a ton of other things. I personally don't believe that any Vega part that goes versus the Ti/XP, will have anything less than 1.5GHz. They were promising passively cooled server parts at 1.5GHz, so...
What's interesting is that the reported driver version is the OpenCL one (22.19.384.20), instead of the D3D one.
The clock could also just be a part of extrapolating performance, a leak to measure reactions, or a ton of other things. I personally don't believe that any Vega part that goes versus the Ti/XP, will have anything less than 1.5GHz. They were promising passively cooled server parts at 1.5GHz, so...
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#5426417 Posted on: 04/30/2017 04:30 PM
Hi Hilbert,
Doing a score compare reveals a driver name of 687F:C1
That's a good spot, and the ID matches the presumed AOTS Vega leak back in December.
Hi Hilbert,
Doing a score compare reveals a driver name of 687F:C1
That's a good spot, and the ID matches the presumed AOTS Vega leak back in December.
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#5426420 Posted on: 04/30/2017 04:37 PM
This could just be the cut down Vega that's supposed to compete with the 1070. Or it could be full Vega clocked lower.
People need to stop forming conclusions on these leaks. They're almost never accurate.
That would be disappointing if they need one extra year and HBM 2.0 to match GTX 1070. That would mean no competition again when NVIDIA launches Volta.
If it's noticeably cheaper and uses less power... Then it could be nice.
This could just be the cut down Vega that's supposed to compete with the 1070. Or it could be full Vega clocked lower.
People need to stop forming conclusions on these leaks. They're almost never accurate.
That would be disappointing if they need one extra year and HBM 2.0 to match GTX 1070. That would mean no competition again when NVIDIA launches Volta.
If it's noticeably cheaper and uses less power... Then it could be nice.
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#5426421 Posted on: 04/30/2017 04:39 PM
What's interesting is that the reported driver version is the OpenCL one (22.19.384.20), instead of the D3D one.
The clock could also just be a part of extrapolating performance, a leak to measure reactions, or a ton of other things. I personally don't believe that any Vega part that goes versus the Ti/XP, will have anything less than 1.5GHz. They were promising passively cooled server parts at 1.5GHz, so...
Calling them passively cooled is a bit of a stretch, but yeah - MI25 probably around 1.5Ghz - the gaming variants should be higher, not 300mhz lower.
In the other thread, GeniusPr0 brought up a good point though - if you take these measurements and pretend the clock was 25% higher you'd get ~5-10 above stock 1080 performance. Which is where we saw Vega perform in BF1/Doom a few months back.
What's interesting is that the reported driver version is the OpenCL one (22.19.384.20), instead of the D3D one.
The clock could also just be a part of extrapolating performance, a leak to measure reactions, or a ton of other things. I personally don't believe that any Vega part that goes versus the Ti/XP, will have anything less than 1.5GHz. They were promising passively cooled server parts at 1.5GHz, so...
Calling them passively cooled is a bit of a stretch, but yeah - MI25 probably around 1.5Ghz - the gaming variants should be higher, not 300mhz lower.
In the other thread, GeniusPr0 brought up a good point though - if you take these measurements and pretend the clock was 25% higher you'd get ~5-10 above stock 1080 performance. Which is where we saw Vega perform in BF1/Doom a few months back.
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#5426422 Posted on: 04/30/2017 04:39 PM
There are "vega" "687F:C1" values from compubench.
And they look like 35~45% above Fury X across the board.
There are "vega" "687F:C1" values from compubench.
And they look like 35~45% above Fury X across the board.
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#5426423 Posted on: 04/30/2017 04:40 PM
That would be disappointing if they need one extra year and HBM 2.0 to match GTX 1070. That would mean no competition again when NVIDIA launches Volta.
If it's noticeably cheaper and uses less power... Then it could be nice.
If this is their topline card it's Fury X at 1200mhz pretty much, with more RAM. It's like everything they should have done has not happened.
Or maybe it is a Fury X done with hbm2 for their 1070 adversary
I don't know.
@ fox
And this looks like it's barely above fury x.
That would be disappointing if they need one extra year and HBM 2.0 to match GTX 1070. That would mean no competition again when NVIDIA launches Volta.
If it's noticeably cheaper and uses less power... Then it could be nice.
If this is their topline card it's Fury X at 1200mhz pretty much, with more RAM. It's like everything they should have done has not happened.
Or maybe it is a Fury X done with hbm2 for their 1070 adversary
I don't know.
@ fox
And this looks like it's barely above fury x.
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#5426424 Posted on: 04/30/2017 04:47 PM
I'd lean more towards an RX 590 candidate.
I'd lean more towards an RX 590 candidate.
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#5426429 Posted on: 04/30/2017 05:00 PM
Uh oh, has someone crashed the hype train?
Uh oh, has someone crashed the hype train?
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That's incredibly disappointing. Hope for AMD's sake it is not true