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Rumor: Polaris validation Failed Might Launch in October Now
Okay before I start on this news-item, I really need to state that this is based on a vague rumor, nothing has been confirmed or denied otherwise. Here's the story, some reports say Polaris 10 can't hit 850 MHz reliably and that availability will be pushed back to October. I sincerely hope the rumor is not true.
The news arrived through Nordic Hardware saying that AMD's partners "won't have any new cards to display at Computex and the only Polaris cards promoted to them from AMD are R9 390/390X performance class but for a mid-range price. Reports say Polaris 10 can't hit 850 MHz reliably, whereas Nvidia already demoed the 2000 MHz marker with their GPUs.
A board partner response seem to be "as of now, no information".
Rumor indicates that this info is backed by a rather large AMD partner, that there will be no Polaris-based video cards from AMD partners at Computex. That means no Polaris on Computex and no availability of the cards shortly thereafter (if this is true).
If true, man can AMD please catch a break ...
AMD Shows Polaris 10 and Polaris 11 ASIC Images - 05/02/2016 07:53 AM
Well .. a little bit as it isn't much. On a new webpage from AMD that are teasing the new Polaris architecture. It's highlighting features as 4th gen. Graphics CoreNext, 4K H.265 60 Hz game-streami...
AMD Polaris 10 GPU To Offer Near 980 Ti Performance For 299 USD? - 04/26/2016 10:03 AM
An interesting news item appeared on game debate yesterday, they claim that AMD held an event in Taiwan and has been showcasing it's upcoming Polaris GPUs. The interesting bit is that Polaris 10 woul...
New AMD roadmap gives more insight in polaris 10 and 11 - 04/21/2016 09:07 AM
A new roadmap appeared online from AMD, in this roadmap you can spot some plans for the future graphics cards based on the Polaris 10 and 11 GPU design. The roadmap also makes it pretty clear that the...
PlayStation 4K SoC Could Feature 2304 Stream processors based AMD Polaris GPU - 04/19/2016 04:57 PM
So the story goes like this, the upcoming upgraded PlayStation 4 is tagged under Codename NEO and is based upon an upgraded CPU, GPU, RAM. The custom SoC chip that empowers it all will get 8 CPU core...
AMD Polaris 11 in shows CompuBench has 1024 Shader processors - 04/11/2016 10:06 AM
This is a pretty intersting find, in the CompuBench database some device entries of AMD Polaris 11 (the entry level to mainstream SKU) has appeared. It's all a bit dodgy to dig out, but each graphi...
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#5271501 Posted on: 05/12/2016 04:27 PM
nope they didn't nvidia patched their driver so it didn't expose the feature as such game thinks it doesn't support it and doesn't use as async on nvidia Cards but we don't know if it's the same for Pascal.
I wonder what is a proper benchmark? Cause thus far nvfan boys have disregard every dx12 game on the market is unreal engine the only ones you consider real benchmarks?
Rise of the Tomb Raider isn't unreal and the Ti wins in that.
Quantum Break the Ti loses by 3 fps at stock, but you can overclock almost every single Ti by 35% and it then it just blows past the Fury X. You can tie a Fury X with an overclock in Ashes of Singularity too.
Pascal has better pre-emption but no Async afaik.
nope they didn't nvidia patched their driver so it didn't expose the feature as such game thinks it doesn't support it and doesn't use as async on nvidia Cards but we don't know if it's the same for Pascal.
I wonder what is a proper benchmark? Cause thus far nvfan boys have disregard every dx12 game on the market is unreal engine the only ones you consider real benchmarks?
Rise of the Tomb Raider isn't unreal and the Ti wins in that.
Quantum Break the Ti loses by 3 fps at stock, but you can overclock almost every single Ti by 35% and it then it just blows past the Fury X. You can tie a Fury X with an overclock in Ashes of Singularity too.
Pascal has better pre-emption but no Async afaik.
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#5271502 Posted on: 05/12/2016 04:28 PM
To an extent yes, but once people are happy with a brand they tend to want to stick with it.
All end users wants price/perf they don't care about red or green or whatever is logo of gpu manufacturer, 2nd thing is they care is how good drivers are and support no loyality here, atm Nvidia leads with better gpu yield and drivers but they are more expensive like apple they sell 50% name and rest is hardware and for Amd we will see what they will bring in the future, personaly i just want price< & >perf 
To an extent yes, but once people are happy with a brand they tend to want to stick with it.
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#5271503 Posted on: 05/12/2016 04:30 PM
Rise of the Tomb Raider isn't unreal and the Ti wins in that.
Quantum Break the Ti loses by 3 fps at stock, but you can overclock almost every single Ti by 35% and it then it just blows past the Fury X. You can tie a Fury X with an overclock in Ashes of Singularity too.
Pascal has better pre-emption but no Async afaik.
Oh man, you can't say **** like this... They're gonna get you in your sleep for this.
QB results vary hugely depending on the reviewer. The main point is, it runs like ASS at 1080p( with the disgusting upscaling disabled) no matter what card you're using.
The game should be relegated to the videogaming latrine
RotTR actually really benefited from the move to dx12 it performs far better and without stutters
Rise of the Tomb Raider isn't unreal and the Ti wins in that.
Quantum Break the Ti loses by 3 fps at stock, but you can overclock almost every single Ti by 35% and it then it just blows past the Fury X. You can tie a Fury X with an overclock in Ashes of Singularity too.
Pascal has better pre-emption but no Async afaik.
Oh man, you can't say **** like this... They're gonna get you in your sleep for this.
QB results vary hugely depending on the reviewer. The main point is, it runs like ASS at 1080p( with the disgusting upscaling disabled) no matter what card you're using.
The game should be relegated to the videogaming latrine
RotTR actually really benefited from the move to dx12 it performs far better and without stutters
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#5271507 Posted on: 05/12/2016 04:34 PM
IF this rumor proves to be true, like I already said, it's very, very bad for AMD.
IF this rumor proves to be true, like I already said, it's very, very bad for AMD.
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If what is true? Pascal doesn't have Async Compute. We know that -- that doesn't mean it was rushed.
Eh, potentially. They usually get engineering samples from the foundries way before they spin silicon on it though. For example, there was a video recently about Nvidia's chip failure lab (where they detect issues with chips coming back from the foundries to fix them) and the guy mentioned that they were already receiving 10nm test chips from foundries. So I kind of find it hard to believe that AMD didn't know that clock speeds would be an issue, unless they completely skipped that or decided to design around it somehow.
I know AMD really harped on async compute on their pre mature marketing, but is it really as big as deal as people think it is? seems to me it might be just a great marketing term more than anything else. I know amd seems to be doing well in dx12 so far, but I think its driver related and AMD is banking on people switching to red in hopes for future performance...
Maybe im jaded, but im not trusting AMD to fulfill promises of anything in the future again.