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Photo Shows The New Intel MCM based CPU with AMD-GPU
Intel this week announced its mobile MCM processor based on a 14 nm Coffee Lake-H CPU cores and a Vega based graphics solution. This is called a multi-chip module, and the first photo just surfaced. And it's totally weird to observe alright.
Intel plans this laptop-computer chip combining an Intel processor and an AMD graphics unit. The new product, which will be part of the 8th Gen Intel Core family, brings together our high-performing Intel Core H-series processor, second generation High Bandwidth Memory (HBM2) and a custom-to-Intel third-party discrete graphics chip from AMD’s Radeon Technologies Group – all in a single processor package, but based on several dies.
A photo surfaced online showing the massively huge MCM design, as shared by tech website Bits' n Chips on Twitter. On the left-hand side of the photo, you can see the Intel processor and to the left, the larger AMD GPU with the HBM2 stack.
A 14nm Vega architecture was the choice for the GPU, Intel mentions the usage of HBM2. Earlier this year Intel already announced their Embedded Multi-Die Interconnect Bridge (EMIB) making these things (a second die) possible, for modular builds. The Intel and the AMD part communicate over what basically is a PCIe Gen 3.0 bridge wired in-between each other. The first products based on MCMs will likely be embedded products and laptops, they should launch by Q1 2018.
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#5490845 Posted on: 11/09/2017 06:38 PM
it's also that NVidia doesn't want any work with Intel.
It's bussiness AMD is cheaper than nvidia in this case soo..
it's also that NVidia doesn't want any work with Intel.
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#5490849 Posted on: 11/09/2017 06:45 PM
Fake photos!!!!!!
Fake photos!!!!!!
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#5490850 Posted on: 11/09/2017 06:46 PM
Intel feels otherwise, or why hire him? I'll bet Intel feels his failures are more related to AMD's lack of spend on RTG than anything. AMD simply did not have the R&D budget to make Zen and Vega great so they picked one.
Nope he is failed product so not worth mention.
Intel feels otherwise, or why hire him? I'll bet Intel feels his failures are more related to AMD's lack of spend on RTG than anything. AMD simply did not have the R&D budget to make Zen and Vega great so they picked one.
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#5490856 Posted on: 11/09/2017 07:08 PM
Well, yeah, the only Nvidia solution with HBM2 is Tesla P100, which costs thousands of dollars. Even Apple wouldn't release a laptop where the discrete GPU increases the price by some 5000 bucks or whatever. This Intel module would look quite funny if it was loaded with GDDR5(x) chips for a more reasonable Nvidia GPU.
It's bussiness AMD is cheaper than nvidia in this case soo..
Well, yeah, the only Nvidia solution with HBM2 is Tesla P100, which costs thousands of dollars. Even Apple wouldn't release a laptop where the discrete GPU increases the price by some 5000 bucks or whatever. This Intel module would look quite funny if it was loaded with GDDR5(x) chips for a more reasonable Nvidia GPU.
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#5490866 Posted on: 11/09/2017 07:54 PM
By the size of the Vega die- I think we should get ~ 1050Ti performance level. Would you be happy with such performance for its SOC size?
P.S: I checked Apple site for the MacBook gpu specs and now I a sure- they gonna like to brag about the fastest GPU on MacBook air league.
plus it will be over 200% GPU boost on current top Radeon Pro 560 on the top
MacBook Pro model with 50% less power consumption.
By the size of the Vega die- I think we should get ~ 1050Ti performance level. Would you be happy with such performance for its SOC size?
P.S: I checked Apple site for the MacBook gpu specs and now I a sure- they gonna like to brag about the fastest GPU on MacBook air league.
plus it will be over 200% GPU boost on current top Radeon Pro 560 on the top
MacBook Pro model with 50% less power consumption.
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#5490902 Posted on: 11/09/2017 09:50 PM
Intel announced the cooperation with AMD this morning and will work together to create an integrated processor in the future, which will be based on Intel's eighth-generation Core Duo processor and AMD's Vega GPU. It is reported that full blood version Vega GPU has 24 processing units, 1536 stream processors, the highest frequency of 1100MHz, using a 4GB HBM2 memory.
In this morning's 3DMark 11 ran exposure points, P points only 4000 points, which is obviously not normal, and later found that its operating frequency is only 300MHz. Now pcper has exposed a new integrated processor 3DMark 11 Performance run points, it seems that 1100MHz run full of blood.
According to Pcper's latest table data, Intel / AMD integrated processor 3DMark 11 P-mode graphics points can reach 14127 points, has exceeded 31% of the GTX 1050 Ti, while the GTX 1060 scores 16235 points, that is to say This core shows the performance of GTX 1060 87% of the performance. Running points in "Singing ashes" also reached 3300 points.
Of course, other foreign media said the Intel / AMD integrated processor has multiple versions of the core display, low-end performance and the GTX 950 is almost high-end fight Radeon R9 380.
Of course, due to the high cost of HBM2 memory costs, it is expected that high-end notebooks such as the Apple MacBook will be equipped with this seemingly very violent processor, and Intel's own NUC will also be available. Of course, this CPU is still in the engineering state of the sample, the future what performance is not easy to say.
Intel announced the cooperation with AMD this morning and will work together to create an integrated processor in the future, which will be based on Intel's eighth-generation Core Duo processor and AMD's Vega GPU. It is reported that full blood version Vega GPU has 24 processing units, 1536 stream processors, the highest frequency of 1100MHz, using a 4GB HBM2 memory.
In this morning's 3DMark 11 ran exposure points, P points only 4000 points, which is obviously not normal, and later found that its operating frequency is only 300MHz. Now pcper has exposed a new integrated processor 3DMark 11 Performance run points, it seems that 1100MHz run full of blood.
According to Pcper's latest table data, Intel / AMD integrated processor 3DMark 11 P-mode graphics points can reach 14127 points, has exceeded 31% of the GTX 1050 Ti, while the GTX 1060 scores 16235 points, that is to say This core shows the performance of GTX 1060 87% of the performance. Running points in "Singing ashes" also reached 3300 points.
Of course, other foreign media said the Intel / AMD integrated processor has multiple versions of the core display, low-end performance and the GTX 950 is almost high-end fight Radeon R9 380.
Of course, due to the high cost of HBM2 memory costs, it is expected that high-end notebooks such as the Apple MacBook will be equipped with this seemingly very violent processor, and Intel's own NUC will also be available. Of course, this CPU is still in the engineering state of the sample, the future what performance is not easy to say.
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#5490907 Posted on: 11/09/2017 10:02 PM
hehe Mr. Koduri is fast as ray lol
hehe Mr. Koduri is fast as ray lol
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#5490936 Posted on: 11/10/2017 12:29 AM
By the size of the Vega die- I think we should get ~ 1050Ti performance level. Would you be happy with such performance for its SOC size?
P.S: I checked Apple site for the MacBook gpu specs and now I a sure- they gonna like to brag about the fastest GPU on MacBook air league.
plus it will be over 200% GPU boost on current top Radeon Pro 560 on the top
MacBook Pro model with 50% less power consumption.
I think this article is wrong. I'm seeing this is a Polaris based chip and not VEGA from a lot more sites.
By the size of the Vega die- I think we should get ~ 1050Ti performance level. Would you be happy with such performance for its SOC size?
P.S: I checked Apple site for the MacBook gpu specs and now I a sure- they gonna like to brag about the fastest GPU on MacBook air league.
plus it will be over 200% GPU boost on current top Radeon Pro 560 on the top
MacBook Pro model with 50% less power consumption.
I think this article is wrong. I'm seeing this is a Polaris based chip and not VEGA from a lot more sites.
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#5490942 Posted on: 11/10/2017 01:08 AM
hopefully this will give reasonable prices to laptops with a little bit of gpu muscle.
hopefully this will give reasonable prices to laptops with a little bit of gpu muscle.
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#5490972 Posted on: 11/10/2017 07:35 AM
It is Vega because Polaris does not support HBM....
I think this article is wrong. I'm seeing this is a Polaris based chip and not VEGA from a lot more sites.
It is Vega because Polaris does not support HBM....
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#5490976 Posted on: 11/10/2017 08:02 AM
Oh my! I didn't know they're this far to show a product yet. This is actually something I'm looking forward to. On the other side of things all that is going through my head is "who is playing the glueing game now".... :p:p
Oh my! I didn't know they're this far to show a product yet. This is actually something I'm looking forward to. On the other side of things all that is going through my head is "who is playing the glueing game now".... :p:p
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#5490977 Posted on: 11/10/2017 08:08 AM
What sorcery is this?!
What sorcery is this?!
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#5490982 Posted on: 11/10/2017 08:20 AM
HEAT DISIPATION? ANYONE?
HEAT DISIPATION? ANYONE?
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EMIB is a fancy acronym for Scotch Tape.
Seriously though... Does anyone see the Koduri move as any part of this "partnership"?