OEMs won't be able to sell PCs with Win7 / 8.1 starting November
Windows 7, perhaps Microsoft's most succesful release of Windows, along with the less popular Windows 8.1 won't come installed on large OEM PCs after October 31, 2016.
The move comes as Windows 7 rapidly excels towards its end of extended supported, which will occur at the beginning of 2020, having already lost mainstream support at the start of 2015. Just like each operating system has a date that it stops receiving updates, there is also an end-of-sale date, the date until when large OEMs can continue pre-installing a version of Windows. In the case of Windows 7, it was already meant to have stopped being pre-installed, but Microsoft allowed the Professional edition an additional two years until October 31, 2016. Now time has almost run out for both Windows 7 and 8.1 as their end-of-sale dates approach.
Beginning Nov. 1, Microsoft's largest partners, the so-called royalty OEMs like Dell and HP and Lenovo, will no longer be able to build and sell new PCs running any version of Windows except Windows 10.
That's actually a two-year extension on what would have been the normal sales lifecycle for PCs running those earlier Windows versions. But the clock is finally running out.
The end of the Windows 7/8.1 sales lifecycle doesn't mean that those older versions of Windows will be completely dead, of course. As I've explained in the past, the support and sales lifecycles are completely different. (See "What the Windows 7 Pro sales lifecycle changes mean to consumers and business buyers.")
Windows 7 will continue to receive security fixes via Windows Update until Jan. 14, 2020. Windows 8.1 will be supported until Jan. 10, 2023.
In addition, the fact that large OEMs will no longer be able to install older Windows versions on new PCs for sale through retail and commercial channels doesn't mean you're out of options. Here's a partial list of exceptions that will allow businesses and consumers to continue running their old, preferred Windows version:
- Existing inventory PCs that were built with older Windows versions before the deadline can still be sold. For months, at least, you'll be able to find those PCs on retail store shelves and in distributors' warehouses.
- Downgrade rights Any new PC you buy that has Windows 10 Pro preinstalled by the manufacturer comes with downgrade rights to Windows 8.1 Pro or Windows 7 Professional, for as long as Microsoft provides support for those earlier versions. You must supply your own installation media, and you have to activate manually.
- Custom images Corporate customers with volume licenses for Windows that include imaging rights can use custom images incorporating their preferred Windows version. For large customers, OEMs can assist in the installation of those images.
- System Builder OEMs White-box PC makers who purchase OEM System Builder media for installation on new PCs can continue to build and sell those PCs. Microsoft won't be stocking the channel with new OEM media, but past experience suggests there will be plenty of inventory for years to come.
- Retail upgrades If all else fails, do it yourself. Microsoft no longer manufactures retail copies of older Windows versions, but here too there's plenty of inventory in the channel and nothing to stop you from doing your own upgrade.
Of course, there are perils and pitfalls associated with running the increasingly aging Windows 7, especially on newer hardware. System manufacturers have no economic incentive to develop drivers and support tools for older Windows versions. Most downgrades will work, but some components might not work properly, or at all.
On new systems with Intel's Kaby Lake processors, versions of Windows before Windows 10 will not be supported at all. That doesn't prohibit you from trying to install Windows 7 on one of these new devices, but don't expect any support from the PC maker or from Microsoft when you inevitably run into problems.
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The fact your company has the time and resources to upgrade to Windows 10, and maybe revert back to 7 (you haven't made that entirely clear) suggests an alternative is a possibility.
Most office PCs do not need Windows at all. For example, if MS Office is a requirement, Mac is still an option. You can run MS Office in Linux too, though not as easily. Using a non-Windows OS tends to be faster, easier, and cheaper in terms of software updates and maintenance.
But, I don't know what your office uses. Obviously not every program can run on an alternative OS, but sometimes there are alternative programs that may even be better than what you have now.
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Must be talking about home version. Home version has always been for those that are not into tweaking windows to how they like it. The Pro version allows you to set it to just nag you that updates are available. There is even settings that you can tell it the best time for the computer to install and restart (Active Hours vs Inactive Hours). The only difference is that download and install is automatic for all the available updates. One is not able to choose which updates they want to install.
The whole premise of Windows 10 is to have the same experience across all platforms. That means there will be phone and tablet settings included in the OS that have no place on a desktop. All those can be disabled. Group Policy Editor works wonders on Win 10. Like it was mentioned earlier, it is just not noob friendly.
EDIT: If certain applications do not work in a business environment, then one does not upgrade the OS till those applications become compatible or another suitable application that is compatible with the new OS is found.
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I think W10 is a better OS,
but with Microsoft seemingly trying to reduce our settings choices on our own pc,
added to the blatant data collection such as keylogging, access to email, accesss to contacts,
access to all files including the ability to delete anything they want on your pc or anything connected to.
Then there's the advertising, how long before they want payments to go ad-free ?
It is all just a little too scary for me.
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Access to email and contacts are what was mentioned as phone settings. Those can be disabled. Nothing says you need to have a Microsoft account to run Win 10. I only use a local account and the appstore apps still update, unlike win 8.1. The settings are there. Just need to know where to look in the settings sections.
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I was using half year by self, but still have to maintain 500+ comp in work, and belive me windows 10 generate 10x more problems than win7, good that with enterprise version we can select updates and we have full support, but there are some core applications for marketing and directors what are not supported on win10, and spying by other country is big concern too... But what choice we have, no alternative....