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Nvidia users walk to AMD R9 290X - offered at 279 USD Now !
Interesting, here in the EU the price change is not in effect when I checked yesterday and this morning, but over in the USA there are clear signs of a price drop for the Radeon R9 290X. If you look at NewEgg you'll notice them for 279 USD!
And these are not reference cards either, proper factory overclocked products with food cooling like TwinFroz, Windforce and so on. If you look at NewEgg you'll notice for example the Radeon R9 290X GAMING 4GB for 299 USD and GIGABYTE WindForce GV-R929XOC-4GD Radeon R9 290X 4GB for as low as 279 USD ! The prices are after 20 USD rebate, but there is something going on alright.
With such prices and cooler admittedly, that is pretty terrific deal !
With this week GeForce GTX 970 debacle AMD's marketing machine also woke up, you can expect a new 'The Fixer' video today and we have seen some stings from AMD staff stating "with us 4GB really is 4GB".
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#5004033 Posted on: 01/30/2015 02:06 PM
I'm sorry mate, I won't argue with someone who thinks using "calculated TDP" as an counter-argument to "measured power consumption" is a good idea.
Have a good day. o/
I'm sorry mate, I won't argue with someone who thinks using "calculated TDP" as an counter-argument to "measured power consumption" is a good idea.
Have a good day. o/
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#5004034 Posted on: 01/30/2015 02:09 PM
I never post in Guru3D forums as far as responses go, I always ask questions, and I probably don't know as much about computers as the majority of people in these forums do, but I have to add in that a lot of you, possibly the majority of people who own a 970, are making a big deal out of nothing.
Sure, there really are those people who really do have multiple 970s in SLI and are attempting to play in 4K and are running into those bottlenecks, and for that, yeah. It sucks, I can imagine, but the users of 4K + 970 SLI is such a huge minority vs any other setup out there, plus even at 4K, there's only a few games out there that will give you 3.5GB+ of memory usage.
But the majority of people here are just idiots bandwagoning AMD / the people who brought this news to light as if it really matters to them. The GTX 970, even with its 3.5GB RAM is still a very nice card, and outperforms or is on par with the R9 290X in the majority of the games it plays, and I honestly can't believe there are actually people selling their 970 for a card that performs mostly worse in the latest games, simply because they feel "betrayed". No one felt betrayed about anything until this news came to light, and now everyone wants to play victim and act like they're really affected by this news
How I imagine most of the 1080p/1440p single 970 gamers who actually complained about this:
>"Huh, is this really true?"
>*Runs VRAM test courtesy of Nai/VultureX*
>"Wow, the GB/s counter went down!"
>"Researches" more of the problem and sees people raging about it*
>"I can't believe NVIDIA! This totally affected me in games before I saw this news! I have to sell my 970 now."
There aren't many games that use NVIDIA only features, but they're still missing out on that, and one feature I absolutely love to death is Shadowplay.
I never post in Guru3D forums as far as responses go, I always ask questions, and I probably don't know as much about computers as the majority of people in these forums do, but I have to add in that a lot of you, possibly the majority of people who own a 970, are making a big deal out of nothing.
Sure, there really are those people who really do have multiple 970s in SLI and are attempting to play in 4K and are running into those bottlenecks, and for that, yeah. It sucks, I can imagine, but the users of 4K + 970 SLI is such a huge minority vs any other setup out there, plus even at 4K, there's only a few games out there that will give you 3.5GB+ of memory usage.
But the majority of people here are just idiots bandwagoning AMD / the people who brought this news to light as if it really matters to them. The GTX 970, even with its 3.5GB RAM is still a very nice card, and outperforms or is on par with the R9 290X in the majority of the games it plays, and I honestly can't believe there are actually people selling their 970 for a card that performs mostly worse in the latest games, simply because they feel "betrayed". No one felt betrayed about anything until this news came to light, and now everyone wants to play victim and act like they're really affected by this news
How I imagine most of the 1080p/1440p single 970 gamers who actually complained about this:
>"Huh, is this really true?"
>*Runs VRAM test courtesy of Nai/VultureX*
>"Wow, the GB/s counter went down!"
>"Researches" more of the problem and sees people raging about it*
>"I can't believe NVIDIA! This totally affected me in games before I saw this news! I have to sell my 970 now."
There aren't many games that use NVIDIA only features, but they're still missing out on that, and one feature I absolutely love to death is Shadowplay.
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#5004036 Posted on: 01/30/2015 02:13 PM
Yeah, as expected this turned out to an all out marketing war between AMD and nvidia... I might even go as far as thinking that all of this was a planned move to smear nvidia on one side and promote anticipation for the next AMD cards on the other. I bet a good number of the January 2015 registered members posting arround these threads are "sponsored" too (by both sides).
I for one care little about all this, as I never personally experienced this issue on my 970s SLI (yet) and I won't go through the hassle of returning and then wait for several months until both amd and nvidia put out their new stuff. Hell this was the REASON I went for 970s now so I can enjoy all the games coming out NOW and they served me great so far, especially in DA:I. Yes nvidia did **** up with hiding this, but all this way overrated.
Both AMD and nvidia will win me over with raw performance gains, not bull**** marketing/PR wars, I'm looking forward to the new cards, although a little bit less than I did a while ago.
Yeah, as expected this turned out to an all out marketing war between AMD and nvidia... I might even go as far as thinking that all of this was a planned move to smear nvidia on one side and promote anticipation for the next AMD cards on the other. I bet a good number of the January 2015 registered members posting arround these threads are "sponsored" too (by both sides).
I for one care little about all this, as I never personally experienced this issue on my 970s SLI (yet) and I won't go through the hassle of returning and then wait for several months until both amd and nvidia put out their new stuff. Hell this was the REASON I went for 970s now so I can enjoy all the games coming out NOW and they served me great so far, especially in DA:I. Yes nvidia did **** up with hiding this, but all this way overrated.
Both AMD and nvidia will win me over with raw performance gains, not bull**** marketing/PR wars, I'm looking forward to the new cards, although a little bit less than I did a while ago.
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#5004039 Posted on: 01/30/2015 02:19 PM
Yeah, as expected this turned out to an all out marketing war between AMD and nvidia... I might even go as far as thinking that all of this was a planned move to smear nvidia on one side and promote anticipation for the next AMD cards on the other. I bet a good number of the January 2015 registered members posting arround these threads are "sponsored" too (by both sides).
I for one care little about all this, as I never personally experienced this issue on my 970s SLI (yet) and I won't go through the hassle of returning and then wait for several months until both amd and nvidia put out their new stuff. Hell this was the REASON I went for 970s now so I can enjoy all the games coming out NOW and they served me great so far, especially in DA:I. Yes nvidia did **** up with hiding this, but all this way overrated.
Both AMD and nvidia will win me over with raw performance gains, not bull**** marketing/PR wars, I'm looking forward to the new cards, although a little bit less than I did a while ago.
There is no win-win situation as it is now.
Some people get their full refund, wait for nV reaction to this and get 970 for $50-$100 less.
Then those who did not ask for refund will be pissed instead. More bad things will come to nV.
If they do not reduce price, those refund money may likely go to 290(x) as step to 980 is a lot of money customers did not want to invest in 1st place. And no reasonable jump in performance per $.
Yeah, as expected this turned out to an all out marketing war between AMD and nvidia... I might even go as far as thinking that all of this was a planned move to smear nvidia on one side and promote anticipation for the next AMD cards on the other. I bet a good number of the January 2015 registered members posting arround these threads are "sponsored" too (by both sides).
I for one care little about all this, as I never personally experienced this issue on my 970s SLI (yet) and I won't go through the hassle of returning and then wait for several months until both amd and nvidia put out their new stuff. Hell this was the REASON I went for 970s now so I can enjoy all the games coming out NOW and they served me great so far, especially in DA:I. Yes nvidia did **** up with hiding this, but all this way overrated.
Both AMD and nvidia will win me over with raw performance gains, not bull**** marketing/PR wars, I'm looking forward to the new cards, although a little bit less than I did a while ago.
There is no win-win situation as it is now.
Some people get their full refund, wait for nV reaction to this and get 970 for $50-$100 less.
Then those who did not ask for refund will be pissed instead. More bad things will come to nV.
If they do not reduce price, those refund money may likely go to 290(x) as step to 980 is a lot of money customers did not want to invest in 1st place. And no reasonable jump in performance per $.
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You are gullible enough to believe that the difference between a stock and an overclocked card is 6W.
LE: This is estimated by our respected HH:
Yeah, that's a factory overclocked card.
I also noticed from anandtech's results, you are comparing a 970 vs a 290x in quiet mode. Else the difference would be almost 100W. Seriously, what do you hope to gain from being biased?