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It has been a topic of long discussion but in a short and a bit of a confusing explanation, NVIDIA seems to be making a move to support adaptive sync (aka FreeSync). The feature will be enabled in future drivers, however, will only work on selected monitors.
From the looks of the monitors that are going to be supported need to be tested by NVIDIA and thus certified by NVIDIA. We're sure that is a partner certification program that needs to be paid for by the monitor manufacturers to get that new 'GSYNC Compatible' logo. So in one way or another, that might invoke a price premium. According to Nvidia this works on the 10 and 20 series.
Merely (a handful of the current 500+ monitors will be enabled support to Adaptive Sync on GeForce graphics cards. That number should expand over time. Multiple monitors have been tested and certified including monitors from Acer, ASUS, AOC, Agon and BenQ. These will get driver enabled for adaptive sync on January 15th. The certified monitors will be called ' GSYNC Compatible'.
Updated: we reached out to NVIDIA. Not certified monitors will work as well by manually enabling the mode.
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#5624125 Posted on: 01/07/2019 09:22 AM
Once your FPS drops below your monitor refresh rate, you will see same frame 2 or more times ( called "stutter" ). FastSync is basically VSync that pulls latest processed frame.
FreeSync or Gsync adjust monitor refresh rate to GPU, so you don't see same frame twice and as GPU done rendering new frame, it will be shown on the panel.
So FreeSync or Gsync shines if you FPS drops below your panel refresh rate, otherwise, it's not that great.
Advanced users adjust game settings, so they have stable fps above panel refreshrate and cap FPS with software to match refreshrate, without relying on Vsync or other solutions.
I don't get why people care about Adaptive sync on monitors. Nvidia Fast sync or setting the window mode on borderless completely eliminates tearing or stuttering without requiring any specific hardware. can someone explain to me why adaptive sync is needed?
Once your FPS drops below your monitor refresh rate, you will see same frame 2 or more times ( called "stutter" ). FastSync is basically VSync that pulls latest processed frame.
FreeSync or Gsync adjust monitor refresh rate to GPU, so you don't see same frame twice and as GPU done rendering new frame, it will be shown on the panel.
So FreeSync or Gsync shines if you FPS drops below your panel refresh rate, otherwise, it's not that great.
Advanced users adjust game settings, so they have stable fps above panel refreshrate and cap FPS with software to match refreshrate, without relying on Vsync or other solutions.
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#5624127 Posted on: 01/07/2019 09:33 AM
I don't think it has much to do with them. I'd say it's much more to do with all the gripping over the internet these last few years. All of it warranted mind you.
Thanks AMD. You are the best.
I don't think it has much to do with them. I'd say it's much more to do with all the gripping over the internet these last few years. All of it warranted mind you.
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#5624128 Posted on: 01/07/2019 09:34 AM
Nobody ask if frame doubling work when game fps is below VRR range?
Cause in Gsync case, frame doubling/tripling etc is done by the custom Gsync Altera chip in the monitor.
Meanwhile, in AMD Freesync case, frame doubling is done by the GPU. Technical name is Low Framerate Compensation.
Nobody ask if frame doubling work when game fps is below VRR range?
Cause in Gsync case, frame doubling/tripling etc is done by the custom Gsync Altera chip in the monitor.
Meanwhile, in AMD Freesync case, frame doubling is done by the GPU. Technical name is Low Framerate Compensation.
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#5624129 Posted on: 01/07/2019 09:34 AM
This is bad news for AMD. Freesync screens were far more numerous and far cheaper than Gsync screens, despite Nvidia boasting some 70-80% of the gaming video card market. So, there would have been people who liked the AMD side because they could actually afford a screen with adaptive sync. Furthermore, if they already had a Freesync screen, they would be somewhat more likely to stick to AMD. Nvidia's decision to support only their own Gsync this long is because they had such a giant market share and maintaining the strict policy brought them money directly from screen manufacturers who wanted to have Gsync. But practically speaking they were voluntarily limiting themselves out of some potential market, so this move was something that could have happened at any time. Ironically enough this turned the tables because now Nvidia video card owners can use great many more screens, but there's no way for AMD to support existing Gsync screens. But at least Gsync screens will most likely become even more scarce in the future. However, a screen can work for many years.
This is bad news for AMD. Freesync screens were far more numerous and far cheaper than Gsync screens, despite Nvidia boasting some 70-80% of the gaming video card market. So, there would have been people who liked the AMD side because they could actually afford a screen with adaptive sync. Furthermore, if they already had a Freesync screen, they would be somewhat more likely to stick to AMD. Nvidia's decision to support only their own Gsync this long is because they had such a giant market share and maintaining the strict policy brought them money directly from screen manufacturers who wanted to have Gsync. But practically speaking they were voluntarily limiting themselves out of some potential market, so this move was something that could have happened at any time. Ironically enough this turned the tables because now Nvidia video card owners can use great many more screens, but there's no way for AMD to support existing Gsync screens. But at least Gsync screens will most likely become even more scarce in the future. However, a screen can work for many years.
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#5624130 Posted on: 01/07/2019 09:35 AM
Oh, we might never know how much influence AMD and / or Intel has exercised in VESA.
I don't think it has much to do with them. I'd say it's much more to do with all the gripping over the internet these last few years. All of it warranted mind you.
Oh, we might never know how much influence AMD and / or Intel has exercised in VESA.
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#5624131 Posted on: 01/07/2019 09:40 AM
Yes, you could be right there. Anyway, it's good news for those with Nvidia cards and a freesync monitor or those thinking of buying a new monitor. Gives everyone more choice and that can't be bad.
Oh, we might never know how much influence AMD and / or Intel has exercised in VESA.
Yes, you could be right there. Anyway, it's good news for those with Nvidia cards and a freesync monitor or those thinking of buying a new monitor. Gives everyone more choice and that can't be bad.
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#5624160 Posted on: 01/07/2019 10:55 AM
Well this is a nice surprise.
Found the Nvidia Blog post about it:
Announcing G-SYNC Compatible Monitors and BFGD Pre-Orders
And the list of supported monitors:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/g-sync-monitors/specs/
Well this is a nice surprise.
Found the Nvidia Blog post about it:
Announcing G-SYNC Compatible Monitors and BFGD Pre-Orders
And the list of supported monitors:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/g-sync-monitors/specs/
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#5624161 Posted on: 01/07/2019 11:07 AM
I bought an Acer XG270HU 1440p 144hz screen last year. As I exclusively use v-sync off, then, this news is welcome, but, doesn't affect me at all.
It was definitely coming as we've known "freesync" was made a part of the vesa standard for a while now. I can only see this as a positive for Nvidia and it's users.
Long-term, we'll basically see both AMD and Nvidia logos on most monitor products. It's a similar change to the market to when motherboards went from being sli or crossfire exclusive to supporting both standards. Business as usual.
I bought an Acer XG270HU 1440p 144hz screen last year. As I exclusively use v-sync off, then, this news is welcome, but, doesn't affect me at all.
It was definitely coming as we've known "freesync" was made a part of the vesa standard for a while now. I can only see this as a positive for Nvidia and it's users.
Long-term, we'll basically see both AMD and Nvidia logos on most monitor products. It's a similar change to the market to when motherboards went from being sli or crossfire exclusive to supporting both standards. Business as usual.
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#5624165 Posted on: 01/07/2019 11:26 AM
Now that all three support Adaptive Sync things got easy. No need to worry about compatibility in the future. However, it's probably best to buy properly certified screens since most Adaptive Sync screens are trash.
Now that all three support Adaptive Sync things got easy. No need to worry about compatibility in the future. However, it's probably best to buy properly certified screens since most Adaptive Sync screens are trash.
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#5624166 Posted on: 01/07/2019 11:27 AM
Will they add support to older cards or just 2xxx and later? I hope that older cards will be included as well. There shouldn't really be a reason to not include them (especially since they already branded Adaptive Sync as "Gsync" on laptops for their Pascal lineup), unless it is to boost sales of their 2xxx cards.
In any case, it will be good being able to buy a monitor independent of the video card brand one uses.
Will they add support to older cards or just 2xxx and later? I hope that older cards will be included as well. There shouldn't really be a reason to not include them (especially since they already branded Adaptive Sync as "Gsync" on laptops for their Pascal lineup), unless it is to boost sales of their 2xxx cards.
In any case, it will be good being able to buy a monitor independent of the video card brand one uses.
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#5624167 Posted on: 01/07/2019 11:32 AM
Will they add support to older cards or just RTX and later? I hope that older cards will be included as well.
In any case, it will be good being able to buy a monitor independent of the video card brand one uses.
Pascal based 10 series are included, not sure about Maxwell though.
Will they add support to older cards or just RTX and later? I hope that older cards will be included as well.
In any case, it will be good being able to buy a monitor independent of the video card brand one uses.
Pascal based 10 series are included, not sure about Maxwell though.
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#5624169 Posted on: 01/07/2019 11:34 AM
Will they add support to older cards or just RTX and later? I hope that older cards will be included as well.
In any case, it will be good being able to buy a monitor independent of the video card brand one uses.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/g-sync-ces-2019-announcements/
It says in that article 10 and 20 series. My best guess is that Maxwell is either left behind or a "use at your own risk" thing.
Will they add support to older cards or just RTX and later? I hope that older cards will be included as well.
In any case, it will be good being able to buy a monitor independent of the video card brand one uses.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/g-sync-ces-2019-announcements/
It says in that article 10 and 20 series. My best guess is that Maxwell is either left behind or a "use at your own risk" thing.
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#5624170 Posted on: 01/07/2019 11:36 AM
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/g-sync-ces-2019-announcements/
It says in that article 10 and 20 series. My best guess is that Maxwell is either left behind or a "use at your own risk" thing.
It's not like any of the Maxwell cards could show any muscle in RTX scenarios.... maybe the older Titans, but I wouldn't guess anything else before Pascal's top end cards even makes sense to run.
It would be much easier to use and make more sense if they'd introduce DLSS for older cards. Much, much more useful.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/g-sync-ces-2019-announcements/
It says in that article 10 and 20 series. My best guess is that Maxwell is either left behind or a "use at your own risk" thing.
It's not like any of the Maxwell cards could show any muscle in RTX scenarios.... maybe the older Titans, but I wouldn't guess anything else before Pascal's top end cards even makes sense to run.
It would be much easier to use and make more sense if they'd introduce DLSS for older cards. Much, much more useful.
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#5624171 Posted on: 01/07/2019 11:37 AM
If Nvidia ever takes this a few steps further, and allows Freesync to work on all Freesync monitors without first having to approve said monitors, and then lowers their obscene prices, AMD is going to have a serious problem. AMD is competing well in the CPU market, but not in the high end video card segment. Come on AMD, get off your duffs and build us some higher end video cards!
If Nvidia ever takes this a few steps further, and allows Freesync to work on all Freesync monitors without first having to approve said monitors, and then lowers their obscene prices, AMD is going to have a serious problem. AMD is competing well in the CPU market, but not in the high end video card segment. Come on AMD, get off your duffs and build us some higher end video cards!
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Thanks AMD. You are the best.