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NVIDIA to Announce Ampere at GTC in 2020?
Aside from fast 360 Hz monitors, things have been silent for NVIDIA at CES on the desktop front. However new industry reports indicate that Nvidia plotted an announcement date for its new architecture Ampere GPUs at GTC 2020, which will take place from March 22 to 26.
The news, however, remains to be based upon logic expectations and a rumor. Earlier on the CEO of Nvidia mentioned that there will be a 7 nm product, and a recent report by analyst group recommended investing in Nvidia now "will have their first releases to 7 nm over the next 9 months."
Other rumors have indicated that Ampere will have 50% more performance with only half of the consumption compared to Turing, thanks to improvements in architecture and the reduction to 7nm. There was also another rumor that mentioned that we will see the announcement of the architecture in March, adding that we will not see products based on this architecture until June.
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#5750183 Posted on: 01/13/2020 10:26 AM
Well, it will be interesting to see how the "50% more performance at 50% less power consumption" pitch will hold up in reviews once the cards hit the market. Sounds too good to be anything but a sales pitch. Prices will be another thing as well...
Well, it will be interesting to see how the "50% more performance at 50% less power consumption" pitch will hold up in reviews once the cards hit the market. Sounds too good to be anything but a sales pitch. Prices will be another thing as well...
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#5750184 Posted on: 01/13/2020 10:29 AM
Let's hope this rumor is true:
Because then maybe this rumor will be true:
Let's hope this rumor is true:
this information comes shortly after an unknown AMD Radeon appeared on the OpenVR benchmarking software offering a score higher than an Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 Ti.
Because then maybe this rumor will be true:
the Ampere cards are allegedly going to market cheaper than the Turing cards (especially the high-end RTX 3080 and RTX 3080 Ti), presumably to compete with AMD.
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#5750186 Posted on: 01/13/2020 10:36 AM
I think that if Ampere is going to perform as the rumor claims, then I'm absolutely sure that it will not be cheaper at all and very likely far more expensive than the current lineup. NVIDIA produces huge chips compared to AMD and they are really great that they can optimize design to solve all the problems associated with it, but producing one large chip is still going to be expensive, on smaller node even more so.
I think that if Ampere is going to perform as the rumor claims, then I'm absolutely sure that it will not be cheaper at all and very likely far more expensive than the current lineup. NVIDIA produces huge chips compared to AMD and they are really great that they can optimize design to solve all the problems associated with it, but producing one large chip is still going to be expensive, on smaller node even more so.
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#5750188 Posted on: 01/13/2020 10:46 AM
I doubt that they will have 50% less power consumption and 50% more performance. That can be assumed that they provide 50% more performance at 50% less power usage on a specific clock. That doesn't mean card will be equally efficient at 100% performance.
If NVIDIA achieved such efficient, we will have the same story as with GTX 580, where NVIDIA achieved higher efficiency but instead of offering a significantly better product for the consumer, they have offered a mid range product, for the price of the high end product. Thus started the insane price increase era fpr the GPU market.
They did it once, they will do it again, UNLESS AMD will come up with a highly competitive product. Otherwise, next gen will be yet another 10% performance increase, with 50% more profitability for NVIDIA as in this case yet again they will be able to sell lower class silicon as a high end version.
I doubt that they will have 50% less power consumption and 50% more performance. That can be assumed that they provide 50% more performance at 50% less power usage on a specific clock. That doesn't mean card will be equally efficient at 100% performance.
If NVIDIA achieved such efficient, we will have the same story as with GTX 580, where NVIDIA achieved higher efficiency but instead of offering a significantly better product for the consumer, they have offered a mid range product, for the price of the high end product. Thus started the insane price increase era fpr the GPU market.
They did it once, they will do it again, UNLESS AMD will come up with a highly competitive product. Otherwise, next gen will be yet another 10% performance increase, with 50% more profitability for NVIDIA as in this case yet again they will be able to sell lower class silicon as a high end version.
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#5750192 Posted on: 01/13/2020 11:02 AM
Not sure about the performance or cost but the time frame seems reasonable.
All those 1080 owners who have been hanging on might be happy .....
Not sure about the performance or cost but the time frame seems reasonable.
All those 1080 owners who have been hanging on might be happy .....
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#5750194 Posted on: 01/13/2020 11:08 AM
Market has never really recovered from the mining craze. Even the RX 5700 XT which is a nice card by todays standards and offers the best price/perf ratio in its performance segment - is too expensive. Let alone ANYTHING above its level from nVidia.
Lets hope it gets better with the next generation of cards in 2020
I will hold on to my dear GTX970 until this settles down somehow. Its still really good for 60fps gameplay.
Market has never really recovered from the mining craze. Even the RX 5700 XT which is a nice card by todays standards and offers the best price/perf ratio in its performance segment - is too expensive. Let alone ANYTHING above its level from nVidia.
Lets hope it gets better with the next generation of cards in 2020
I will hold on to my dear GTX970 until this settles down somehow. Its still really good for 60fps gameplay.
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#5750196 Posted on: 01/13/2020 11:18 AM
I thought 7nm was so cutting edge that wafer yields were not great. Other companies like AMD only have to produce relatively small chiplets which gets around this yield issue as it doesn't matter if a few of them fail per wafer.
NVidia has to produce a few great big GPU dies on each wafer, so the chance of a lot of them having small errors will be much greater, so yield will be less, and cost per GPU of those that do work perfectly will be much higher, I'd say.
Going to be an awful lot of semi-broken GPU dies available to them - which they will probably be able to flog as lower-end GPUs like 3050, 3060, 3070 etc. but I'd say the fully working complete GPUs will be rare enough per wafer, so high-end 3080Ti, Titan etc will be expensive.
I thought 7nm was so cutting edge that wafer yields were not great. Other companies like AMD only have to produce relatively small chiplets which gets around this yield issue as it doesn't matter if a few of them fail per wafer.
NVidia has to produce a few great big GPU dies on each wafer, so the chance of a lot of them having small errors will be much greater, so yield will be less, and cost per GPU of those that do work perfectly will be much higher, I'd say.
Going to be an awful lot of semi-broken GPU dies available to them - which they will probably be able to flog as lower-end GPUs like 3050, 3060, 3070 etc. but I'd say the fully working complete GPUs will be rare enough per wafer, so high-end 3080Ti, Titan etc will be expensive.
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#5750197 Posted on: 01/13/2020 11:23 AM
I very much doubt that we see anything related to gaming. GTC is a Deep Learning and AI conference.
If they do show something, it is most likely to be for the professional market.
I very much doubt that we see anything related to gaming. GTC is a Deep Learning and AI conference.
If they do show something, it is most likely to be for the professional market.
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#5750206 Posted on: 01/13/2020 12:13 PM
Not sure about the performance or cost but the time frame seems reasonable.
All those 1080 owners who have been hanging on might be happy .....
Imo theres nothing to hang... I mean my 1070 works wonders under 2560x1440, so far no issues. RTX unless it matures a bit, I can go without.
Will see when Cyberpunk releases if there is a need for upgrade
Not sure about the performance or cost but the time frame seems reasonable.
All those 1080 owners who have been hanging on might be happy .....
Imo theres nothing to hang... I mean my 1070 works wonders under 2560x1440, so far no issues. RTX unless it matures a bit, I can go without.
Will see when Cyberpunk releases if there is a need for upgrade
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#5750213 Posted on: 01/13/2020 12:37 PM
Im glad nvidia continue to dominate, makes amd and intel try their best to fallow. Im only scared nvidia will bump the prices even more.
If 3080 beats 2080ti with some additional rt cores/improvements you can only imagine how much will it cost. Same goes for 3070. Im sure many of us wont even afford 3060.
Im glad nvidia continue to dominate, makes amd and intel try their best to fallow. Im only scared nvidia will bump the prices even more.
If 3080 beats 2080ti with some additional rt cores/improvements you can only imagine how much will it cost. Same goes for 3070. Im sure many of us wont even afford 3060.
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#5750217 Posted on: 01/13/2020 12:49 PM
@Undying Your comment is sad and reveals why the market has come to this state. You're glad Nvidia dominates, but you're scared they'll bump prices even more. What do you think it will happen when a company has the monopoly, offer a ticket plane and 2 weeks at Hawaii?
@Undying Your comment is sad and reveals why the market has come to this state. You're glad Nvidia dominates, but you're scared they'll bump prices even more. What do you think it will happen when a company has the monopoly, offer a ticket plane and 2 weeks at Hawaii?
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#5750221 Posted on: 01/13/2020 12:56 PM
I will never buy blue and green products. All red for ever and consoles. Until Intel and Nvidia ask reasonable money, I have no reason to brag about pc hardware and show my friends anything about it or beg for upgrade discounts and parts swapping. Real life dominates digital one. Amd shows the way, years now. They won cpu battle. If only they could win also gpu front.
We hope Nvidia "to learn" from intel's mistakes. Overspending $ at r&d you should never alleviate the costs through consumers, only partners etc.
I will never buy blue and green products. All red for ever and consoles. Until Intel and Nvidia ask reasonable money, I have no reason to brag about pc hardware and show my friends anything about it or beg for upgrade discounts and parts swapping. Real life dominates digital one. Amd shows the way, years now. They won cpu battle. If only they could win also gpu front.
We hope Nvidia "to learn" from intel's mistakes. Overspending $ at r&d you should never alleviate the costs through consumers, only partners etc.
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#5750237 Posted on: 01/13/2020 01:37 PM
Im glad nvidia continue to dominate, makes amd and intel try their best to fallow. Im only scared nvidia will bump the prices even more.
If 3080 beats 2080ti with some additional rt cores/improvements you can only imagine how much will it cost. Same goes for 3070. Im sure many of us wont even afford 3060.
2K for gaming gpu is nuts.
Im glad nvidia continue to dominate, makes amd and intel try their best to fallow. Im only scared nvidia will bump the prices even more.
If 3080 beats 2080ti with some additional rt cores/improvements you can only imagine how much will it cost. Same goes for 3070. Im sure many of us wont even afford 3060.
2K for gaming gpu is nuts.
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#5750245 Posted on: 01/13/2020 01:48 PM
This so much.
@Undying Your comment is sad and reveals why the market has come to this state. You're glad Nvidia dominates, but you're scared they'll bump prices even more. What do you think it will happen when a company has the monopoly, offer a ticket plane and 2 weeks at Hawaii?
This so much.
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