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NVIDIA Tegra 6 will be a 64-bit chip for Android devices
A peek at a roadmap from Nvidia learns that the Tegra 6, which is developped under codename Parker will actually be a 64-bit SoC. Initially Parker was scheduled for 2015 however now has been scheduled for 2014. Nvidia started developing this ARMv8 64-bit chip late 2010 already and the first samples should be ready by early 2014 as well.
Nvidia may end up with Tegra 6 chips in phones and tablets by the end of the year 2014, cutting the Tegra 5's lifespan rather short.
Samsung has already acknowledged that it's working on a 64-bit Exynos, and Qualcomm has reportedly been tight-lipped about its 64-bit plans. Intel is already a given, so that leaves Nvidia, which may be forced to accelerate its schedule to keep from lagging behind. A report from ExtremeTech argues that Nvidia may actually release its "Parker" chip, AKA Tegra 6, in 2014 rather than in 2015. This theory is based on Nvidia reportedly having licensed and started working with ARMv8 back in 2010 or early 2011. If that is indeed the case, then the company may have samples of the 64-bit "Denver" CPU cores ready in early 2014.
Denver is Nvidia’s own custom CPU core, based on the64-bit ARMv8 architecture, which they licensed from ARM since 2010, and a CPU core they intend to use from “super phones to super computers” – a phrase Nvidia likes to say many times. Combined with the upcoming Maxwell GPU, that would give them a super streamlined chip product line, because they can re-use the same chips from smartphones, all the way up to servers and even super-computers (where energy efficiency matters).
They’d all have the Denver CPU and Maxwell GPU. That could be great cost-saving for Nvidia. Put all of that on 16nm FinFET, and they would have something really competitive, that other players, especially in the higher-end markets (servers, etc) should really fear.
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#4675778 Posted on: 10/15/2013 07:41 PM
might just be me but i'd like a tegra phone : /
currently have a HTC one-X with tegra 3 soc and i have no complaints.
have about 50% battery charge left after playing music over the speakers nonstop for 9 hours at work, having power for 3-4 days with wifi on at all times. can't complain.
infact the only reason i've not yet went for another soc is because i can't seem to find if they will infact last as long as the tegra 3 with the way i use the phone and well... the interface is never slow the battery lasts seemingly forever and carmageddon runs like a dream so no need for extra power atm.
also tegra 4 is known to have a big powerdraw hence it is only used in tables... like the nexus 7 and tegra 4i which is for smartphone's is due to pop up in phones early next year.
so yea with no SOC currently out for high end smartphones i'm not that supprised that no high end smartphones have a tegra soc, if one did it would suck since tegra 4 as mentioned is aimed at tablets so with a phone battery that probably wont play nice.
might just be me but i'd like a tegra phone : /
currently have a HTC one-X with tegra 3 soc and i have no complaints.
have about 50% battery charge left after playing music over the speakers nonstop for 9 hours at work, having power for 3-4 days with wifi on at all times. can't complain.
infact the only reason i've not yet went for another soc is because i can't seem to find if they will infact last as long as the tegra 3 with the way i use the phone and well... the interface is never slow the battery lasts seemingly forever and carmageddon runs like a dream so no need for extra power atm.
also tegra 4 is known to have a big powerdraw hence it is only used in tables... like the nexus 7 and tegra 4i which is for smartphone's is due to pop up in phones early next year.
so yea with no SOC currently out for high end smartphones i'm not that supprised that no high end smartphones have a tegra soc, if one did it would suck since tegra 4 as mentioned is aimed at tablets so with a phone battery that probably wont play nice.
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#4675783 Posted on: 10/15/2013 07:49 PM
With the performance of Logan showcased in the recent video I can honestly say that if this increase in performance carries on at the rate it is now then we shall see smartphones and tablets able to rival even next gen consoles within the next five years!
Project Logan running Ira was extremely impressive!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx0t-WJFXzo
And using only 2-3watts to produce something like that!!??
With the performance of Logan showcased in the recent video I can honestly say that if this increase in performance carries on at the rate it is now then we shall see smartphones and tablets able to rival even next gen consoles within the next five years!
Project Logan running Ira was extremely impressive!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx0t-WJFXzo
And using only 2-3watts to produce something like that!!??
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#4675804 Posted on: 10/15/2013 08:23 PM
As shown by my avatar I had high hopes for Tegra 5+ years when it was announce as Tegra Apx 2500.
I really hoped they would had better success until now. Well, its never too late.
As shown by my avatar I had high hopes for Tegra 5+ years when it was announce as Tegra Apx 2500.
I really hoped they would had better success until now. Well, its never too late.
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#4675917 Posted on: 10/15/2013 11:02 PM
That's because the main Tegra 4 doesn't have a built in radio and the Tegra4i is under powered compared to other offerings.
If the Tegra 5 has built in radios it should sell well, especially if it's carrying a Kepler GPU.
It'll have to be really impressive. If Nvidia hasn't noticed yet, nobody wants their Tegra 4's. Qualcomm or a homebrew quad core cpu are in all high end phones and tablets. Not Tegra 4.
That's because the main Tegra 4 doesn't have a built in radio and the Tegra4i is under powered compared to other offerings.
If the Tegra 5 has built in radios it should sell well, especially if it's carrying a Kepler GPU.
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It'll have to be really impressive. If Nvidia hasn't noticed yet, nobody wants their Tegra 4's. Qualcomm or a homebrew quad core cpu are in all high end phones and tablets. Not Tegra 4.