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At the Japanese edition of NVIDIAs GPU Technology Conference, NVIDIA revealed some details behind its 2016 graphics architecture, codenamed Pascal.
The Pascal GPU is fabbed in the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) based on the new 16nm FinFET process, a process that uses the popular stacking method that NAND these days uses as well. It should result in significant power savings.
Pascal will bring support for up to 32GB of HBM2 memory. Initial Pascal will launch with 16GB HBM2 memoryfrom SK.Hynix and Samsung. The 16GB HBM SDRAM (packed in four stacked 4GB HBM2 chips) will offer 1TB/s in bandwidth.
"Pascal will also be available in multi-GPU packaging, replacing the Tesla K80 (NVIDIA skipped Maxwell-gen dual-GPU Tesla). Combined figures are very interesting to compare – 24GB GDDR5 and 480GB/s bandwidth should be replaced with 32GB HBM2 and 2TB/s bandwidth, mutually connected through NVLink rather than PCIe. The NVLink will enable up to 80GB/s, which should replace PLX PCIe Gen3 bridge chips that can only support 16GB/s (8GB/s per GPU). This part should be ‘warm up’ for 2018 and the Volta architecture".
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#5191097 Posted on: 11/18/2015 09:29 AM
So...?
There's always something to look forward to. Volta will be old news by the time it is available and people have started looking forward to the next big thing.
So...?
There's always something to look forward to. Volta will be old news by the time it is available and people have started looking forward to the next big thing.
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#5191109 Posted on: 11/18/2015 09:45 AM
Any confirmation on release date yet?
Any confirmation on release date yet?
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#5191133 Posted on: 11/18/2015 10:50 AM
Already looking for Volta? I'd say Pascal looks promising enough and as a 4k gamer - it looks like a must-have to me.
Very much looking forward to Volta, both for architectural changes and performance gains.
Already looking for Volta? I'd say Pascal looks promising enough and as a 4k gamer - it looks like a must-have to me.
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#5191165 Posted on: 11/18/2015 11:48 AM
16 gigs smaller card and less power usage with more performance very nice but how much will it cost and will game developers use the power because the consoles now are struggle to do 1080p and 30 fps in new titles , with pascal the gap will be massive if they dont bring out a ps5 and xbox two
16 gigs smaller card and less power usage with more performance very nice but how much will it cost and will game developers use the power because the consoles now are struggle to do 1080p and 30 fps in new titles , with pascal the gap will be massive if they dont bring out a ps5 and xbox two
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#5191177 Posted on: 11/18/2015 12:07 PM
Let's hope AMD brings some more competition to the table. Otherwise we'll have to shell out 1200+ bucks again for the new Titan.
Let's hope AMD brings some more competition to the table. Otherwise we'll have to shell out 1200+ bucks again for the new Titan.
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#5191188 Posted on: 11/18/2015 12:22 PM
Pascal should allow 4K gaming with 1 GPU.
It has to or it wont sell like the 980/980ti's did.
Already looking for Volta? I'd say Pascal looks promising enough and as a 4k gamer - it looks like a must-have to me.
Pascal should allow 4K gaming with 1 GPU.
It has to or it wont sell like the 980/980ti's did.
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#5191189 Posted on: 11/18/2015 12:23 PM
Yes already looking for Volta, since I don't see too much sense in upgrading from Maxwell to Pascal. Sadly, I wouldn't say you'll be fine with everything just buy getting yourself a single 'big' Pascal at 4K... that's why I hope Volta will bring constant 60fps to 4K with everything looking nicely.
On the other hand, I am mostly hoping for architectural changes or advances, respectively in the matter of how the work queues are treated, and how the driver will work with dx12 (and I expect Pascal to still show some weaknesses at first).
Already looking for Volta? I'd say Pascal looks promising enough and as a 4k gamer - it looks like a must-have to me.
Yes already looking for Volta, since I don't see too much sense in upgrading from Maxwell to Pascal. Sadly, I wouldn't say you'll be fine with everything just buy getting yourself a single 'big' Pascal at 4K... that's why I hope Volta will bring constant 60fps to 4K with everything looking nicely.
On the other hand, I am mostly hoping for architectural changes or advances, respectively in the matter of how the work queues are treated, and how the driver will work with dx12 (and I expect Pascal to still show some weaknesses at first).
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#5191196 Posted on: 11/18/2015 12:37 PM
For sure Big Pascal will play stuff at 4K @ 60fps just like 980 ti does play some now. Volta will do the same but way more consistently.
Next year should be interesting with Pascal and new AMD gpus + Zen.
For sure Big Pascal will play stuff at 4K @ 60fps just like 980 ti does play some now. Volta will do the same but way more consistently.
Next year should be interesting with Pascal and new AMD gpus + Zen.
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#5191276 Posted on: 11/18/2015 02:56 PM
Yes already looking for Volta, since I don't see too much sense in upgrading from Maxwell to Pascal. Sadly, I wouldn't say you'll be fine with everything just buy getting yourself a single 'big' Pascal at 4K... that's why I hope Volta will bring constant 60fps to 4K with everything looking nicely.
On the other hand, I am mostly hoping for architectural changes or advances, respectively in the matter of how the work queues are treated, and how the driver will work with dx12 (and I expect Pascal to still show some weaknesses at first).[
Well one would assume that by the time pascal comes out it would have inherent support for DX12 and most other features that have been available for some time now. Not sure about that "single card" situation, or solution......let us hope so.
If we are still talking about hitting that 60fps mark under 4K come 2017 (Volta) then I would say something is definitely wrong with either ones setup, or an upgrade has been needed. I play 4K at 60+FPS right now with %99 of the bells and whistles turned on. And it is amazing with a monitor supporting more than a meazily 60hz whilst using DSR @ 100hz with 4K enabled.
Main reason I have not stepped up to a 4K monitor as of yet.......60hz feels like garbage after anything 100hz+ for the last couple of years.
Yes already looking for Volta, since I don't see too much sense in upgrading from Maxwell to Pascal. Sadly, I wouldn't say you'll be fine with everything just buy getting yourself a single 'big' Pascal at 4K... that's why I hope Volta will bring constant 60fps to 4K with everything looking nicely.
On the other hand, I am mostly hoping for architectural changes or advances, respectively in the matter of how the work queues are treated, and how the driver will work with dx12 (and I expect Pascal to still show some weaknesses at first).[
Well one would assume that by the time pascal comes out it would have inherent support for DX12 and most other features that have been available for some time now. Not sure about that "single card" situation, or solution......let us hope so.
If we are still talking about hitting that 60fps mark under 4K come 2017 (Volta) then I would say something is definitely wrong with either ones setup, or an upgrade has been needed. I play 4K at 60+FPS right now with %99 of the bells and whistles turned on. And it is amazing with a monitor supporting more than a meazily 60hz whilst using DSR @ 100hz with 4K enabled.
Main reason I have not stepped up to a 4K monitor as of yet.......60hz feels like garbage after anything 100hz+ for the last couple of years.
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#5191288 Posted on: 11/18/2015 03:15 PM
So...?
There's always something to look forward to. Volta will be old news by the time it is available and people have started looking forward to the next big thing.
You're absolutely right. Why should people on an enthusiast forum for hardware get excited over new hardware?
So...?
There's always something to look forward to. Volta will be old news by the time it is available and people have started looking forward to the next big thing.
You're absolutely right. Why should people on an enthusiast forum for hardware get excited over new hardware?
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#5191301 Posted on: 11/18/2015 03:34 PM
I personally won't be considering any new hardware of any kind until nvidia and/or AMD figure out a better way to handle 4k screens. You can keep throwing more memory (and memory bandwidth) and tighter transistor designs at these GPUs but it doesn't seem to be helping enough. 4k is hurting performance on today's hardware the same way AA did 10 years ago. Not that AA's performance hit was ever properly addressed either...
In the meantime, I'm fine with 1080p.
I hope you're trolling...
I personally won't be considering any new hardware of any kind until nvidia and/or AMD figure out a better way to handle 4k screens. You can keep throwing more memory (and memory bandwidth) and tighter transistor designs at these GPUs but it doesn't seem to be helping enough. 4k is hurting performance on today's hardware the same way AA did 10 years ago. Not that AA's performance hit was ever properly addressed either...
In the meantime, I'm fine with 1080p.
Let's hope AMD brings some more competition to the table. Otherwise we'll have to shell out 1200+ bucks again for the new Titan.
I hope you're trolling...
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#5191310 Posted on: 11/18/2015 03:51 PM
I personally won't be considering any new hardware of any kind until nvidia and/or AMD figure out a better way to handle 4k screens. You can keep throwing more memory (and memory bandwidth) and tighter transistor designs at these GPUs but it doesn't seem to be helping enough. 4k is hurting performance on today's hardware the same way AA did 10 years ago. Not that AA's performance hit was ever properly addressed either...
In the meantime, I'm fine with 1080p.
I hope you're trolling...
Maxwell and Fury are both built on the same transistor size as the previous generation and both significantly improve performance at 4K over the previous generation.
If you increase the number of pixels by 4, you need 4X the GPU power to hit the same FPS.
The same thing was the case with 1080p and will be the same again with 8K. It just takes time for GPU power to catch up. I'm with you, I'm also sticking with 1080p for the time being. I value framerate over anything else.
I personally won't be considering any new hardware of any kind until nvidia and/or AMD figure out a better way to handle 4k screens. You can keep throwing more memory (and memory bandwidth) and tighter transistor designs at these GPUs but it doesn't seem to be helping enough. 4k is hurting performance on today's hardware the same way AA did 10 years ago. Not that AA's performance hit was ever properly addressed either...
In the meantime, I'm fine with 1080p.
I hope you're trolling...
Maxwell and Fury are both built on the same transistor size as the previous generation and both significantly improve performance at 4K over the previous generation.
If you increase the number of pixels by 4, you need 4X the GPU power to hit the same FPS.
The same thing was the case with 1080p and will be the same again with 8K. It just takes time for GPU power to catch up. I'm with you, I'm also sticking with 1080p for the time being. I value framerate over anything else.
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#5191324 Posted on: 11/18/2015 04:08 PM
I'm ready!
Can't wait to see my performance Sky Rocket with Pascal.
I'm ready!
Can't wait to see my performance Sky Rocket with Pascal.
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#5191329 Posted on: 11/18/2015 04:16 PM
Maxwell and Fury are both built on the same transistor size as the previous generation and both significantly improve performance at 4K over the previous generation.
If you increase the number of pixels by 4, you need 4X the GPU power to hit the same FPS.
The same thing was the case with 1080p and will be the same again with 8K. It just takes time for GPU power to catch up. I'm with you, I'm also sticking with 1080p for the time being. I value framerate over anything else.
I agree, but they still fall short. I don't remember hardware struggling as much when 1080p started to get popular. The thing is, we're starting to reach the limits of Moore's Law. Back when 1080p went mainstream, we had a long way to go in terms of electrical refinement and just overall architectural design. It's going to be hard to figure out how to fine-tune something that's already near its limits. Companies can keep adding more cores or frequency but efficiency is going to be an issue.
Maxwell and Fury are both built on the same transistor size as the previous generation and both significantly improve performance at 4K over the previous generation.
If you increase the number of pixels by 4, you need 4X the GPU power to hit the same FPS.
The same thing was the case with 1080p and will be the same again with 8K. It just takes time for GPU power to catch up. I'm with you, I'm also sticking with 1080p for the time being. I value framerate over anything else.
I agree, but they still fall short. I don't remember hardware struggling as much when 1080p started to get popular. The thing is, we're starting to reach the limits of Moore's Law. Back when 1080p went mainstream, we had a long way to go in terms of electrical refinement and just overall architectural design. It's going to be hard to figure out how to fine-tune something that's already near its limits. Companies can keep adding more cores or frequency but efficiency is going to be an issue.
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Very much looking forward to Volta, both for architectural changes and performance gains.