Nvidia Talks About Higher OC clocks on the Founder 2080 cards - also PCB Photo

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 08/21/2018 05:39 PM | source: nvidia | 47 comment(s)

NVIDIA just posted a blog post, and it is a rather unusual one. In the blog post, they pretty much state that they've always had an issue with the founders' edition cards, to reach higher boost clocks as to what the board partners have been able to achieve.

NVIDIA claims that with the new design a 90 MHz higher factory overclock is possible. That at least is the claim, and they also mention that each card is tested at the factory to ensure rock-solid OC stability which is backed by a 3-year standard warranty.

We've always had our comments about the blower style coolers from NVIDIA, they allowed a thermal threshold of 80 degrees, and all cards reached that in return throttling down.

The new two fan (13 blades) cooler design should be much better in that respect. And as long as the cards do not hit a too high-temperature target, of course, they will not throttle down, and in fact can even be clocked higher. NVIDIA mentioned that the new cooler will be much more silent as well, which is something I've complained about a lot with last-gen cooler. The new claim is that the cards will produce just a fifth of the acoustics compared to the last-gen design coolers, they mention it to be 8 DBa lower in noise, and that's a good value alright. We do wonder if NVIDIA isn't pushing too hard, as they are starting to really compete with their own AIB partners this way.

In other news, in the same blog-post, NVIDIA also posted a PCB shot and shows a photo of the new vapor chamber which covers the TU104 GPU (RTX 2080). GeForce RTX 2080 uses 225 Watts of power out of the box, and tops out around 280 Watts for enthusiasts chasing overclocking performance.

The power delivery system has been rebuilt for GeForce RTX Founders Edition graphics cards, starting with the all-new 13-phase iMON DrMOS power supply. Of particular note here is a new ability to switch off arbitrarily phases, for reduced power consumption at low workloads, which increases power efficiency.

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fantaskarsef
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#5576195 Posted on: 08/21/2018 05:45 PM

The way I read it this means higher factory overclock as in higher boost clock. Probably means not too much for manual overclocking...
Interesting that they now can save some more power in low workloads (2D)

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#5576197 Posted on: 08/21/2018 05:52 PM

So Nvidia is grabbing AIB partners by the balls..... we need competition or this is gonna get worse and worse

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#5576240 Posted on: 08/21/2018 07:18 PM

At least they are not taking the p*** with their prices like Asus. I was all set to buy the strix but at £1499 on OC UK they can do one.

Went for the founders edition this time as it does seem they have made a lot if effort to improve the cooler compared to previous releases.

Mind you...at that price you would hope they would

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#5576266 Posted on: 08/21/2018 07:53 PM

I won't be buying any of them until i see some solid performance in benchmarks. So far nvidia has only told us about how great these cards can do ray tracing. But they mentioned absolutely nothing in terms of FPS or benchmark scores etc.

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#5576271 Posted on: 08/21/2018 08:01 PM

.....just like how their AIB partners will do so...and call it : OC EDITION

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#5576273 Posted on: 08/21/2018 08:04 PM

i believe anyone know that with bigger heatsink + more fan = lower temperature
its no-brainer fix... and been AIB partners solution for years thus OC cards on the market

i guess this wont means anything... other than they ditch old-blower-style
not even means cherry-picked (binned) chips for founder edition
well they already did binning it, so there 2080ti - 2080 - 2070 and its not like better quality chips = instant better performance anyways... so yeah

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#5576303 Posted on: 08/21/2018 09:40 PM

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#5576314 Posted on: 08/21/2018 10:04 PM

So aside from color choices...what's the value of buying an AIB card over a Founder's Edition now that Nvidia is putting out cards with open air dual fan coolers? This feels like Nvidia is now looking to cannibalize their own AIBs and eventually cut them out completely. All they need to do is start offering water cooled versions of their cards at +$150 and the AIBs are trading solely based on their brand names.

This feels like preparation for Nvidia to take the whole thing in-house. I don't really have any strong feelings one way or the other on that, but it seems obvious moves are being made...
If that's NVidia's plan, then I'm not a fan of that plan. Cutting out AIB cards makes the market less diverse & interesting, less choice, less competition too, less likely to get good deals, plus you don't get the choice of aesthetics. I hope AIB partners continue.

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#5576316 Posted on: 08/21/2018 10:10 PM

well, you would be considered pretty much brain dead if you bought one without seeing proper benches. Talk about stating the obvious.

So aside from color choices...what's the value of buying an AIB card over a Founder's Edition now that Nvidia is putting out cards with open air dual fan coolers?

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#5576318 Posted on: 08/21/2018 10:19 PM

Why anyone would pre order a card with no benchmarks out baffles me. I "suspect" that the new cards are not much of an improvement over the 10 series, and this is why they have given no information on actual performance. If you look at the actual specs on the cards, one could surmise a performance increase of around 10-20% over the 1080Ti (the 2080Ti), which is pretty nauseating given the 70% price premium over the 1080Ti

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#5576320 Posted on: 08/21/2018 10:24 PM

Did you just "surmise" the 2080ti performance from a pure CUDA core number count analysis? Just wow.

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#5576330 Posted on: 08/21/2018 10:58 PM

I hope your joking? Custom PCBs, better power phases, better cooling enabling lower temps alongside less noise. And seeing as many care about the visuals of the inside of their cases, matchy matchy also plays a part.

Nothing wrong with the FE, in fact kudos to Nvidia for coming out with a decent cooler for their cards but not seeing what 3rd party cards offer is a bit blind.

I'm not saying I want this to happen. I understand some people want all the options they can get - consumer choice - etc. I'm not arguing in favor of cutting out the board partners.

I'm saying I don't think the majority of people buying graphics cards will care about the differences you mentioned enough that they would be upset if Nvidia cut out their board partners. I'm wondering if Nvidia would potentially try to do that, and if it would be to their advantage (higher margins) to do so? Selling hardware direct has made a lot of money for Apple, Samsung, the game console makers, etc. I'm wondering if Nvidia would like to elbow out their partners entirely.

That might sound crazy, but it seems like now would be the time if they were going to make this move, given they have no competition in this space. Just look at what they've done with the pricing.

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#5576335 Posted on: 08/21/2018 11:05 PM

well, you would be considered pretty much brain dead if you bought one without seeing proper benches. Talk about stating the obvious.

And you could have ignored my post,. I bet you have loads of friends with that attitude.

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#5576337 Posted on: 08/21/2018 11:07 PM

And you could have ignored my post but you went out of your way to be a c*nt. I bet you have loads of friends with that attitude.

You said you won't be buying one without seeing a proper gaming bench. I said you'd be pretty much brainless if you did.

Basically saying that you're not brainless because you're not preordering one. Now... what is it with your attitude?

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#5576340 Posted on: 08/21/2018 11:12 PM

I'm not saying I want this to happen. I understand some people want all the options they can get - consumer choice - etc. I'm not arguing in favor of cutting out the board partners.

I'm saying I don't think the majority of people buying graphics cards will care about the differences you mentioned enough that they would be upset if Nvidia cut out their board partners. I'm wondering if Nvidia would potentially try to do that, and if it would be to their advantage (higher margins) to do so? Selling hardware direct has made a lot of money for Apple, Samsung, the game console makers, etc. I'm wondering if Nvidia would like to elbow out their partners entirely.

That might sound crazy, but it seems like now would be the time if they were going to make this move, given they have no competition in this space. Just look at what they've done with the pricing.
I would say that anyone who buys a £1000 gpu and doesn't care about every single bit of spec deserves to be burnt. No way in hell I would buy anything worth a grand without doing some research. Therefore, I don't buy crap.

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