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NVIDIA Snags Away Market Share From AMD, now sells 80 percent of dedicated GPUs
The GPU market results for the second quarter of 2020 have been posted. The second quarter of 2020 saw a 2.5% increase in GPU shipments compared to Q1 2020. Q2 typically declines every year, but as seen in the results, NVIDIA and AMD moved a good number of units.
The most striking data:
- AMD's total unit shipments increased 8.4% quarter-over-quarter, Intel's total shipments decreased -2.7% from the prior quarter, and Nvidia's increased 17.8% .
- The overall rate from GPUs (includes integrated and dedicated GPUs, desktops, laptops, and workstations) to PCs for the quarter was 126% , up 2.3% from the prior quarter.
- The overall PC market increased by 0.68% quarter-over-quarter and 12.54% year-over-year.
- In the second quarter of 2020, there were no changes in the number of shipments since the last quarter.
Speaking of total GPU shipments, AMD shipments led the company to an 18% market share, NVIDIA shipments led to a 19% share, and finally Intel shipments (which fell), led it to a 2.7% share of the market.
NVIDIA gained a huge market share, climbing back to 80% from 75% in the previous quarter. For its part, AMD did not do so well in the dedicated GPU segment, as its share fell to 20% . AMD lost 9% of its graphics footprint since last year. These numbers could be attributed to the launch of NVIDIA's GeForce Super line , both for the desktop and mobile segments. Additionally, promotions for older GeForce Turing graphics cards appeared, which would have boosted the company's sales.
By the second half of 2020, NVIDIA is expected to retain or even further push its share as it is about to launch its Ampere GeForce RTX 3000 series graphics cards. For its part, AMD plans to launch its Big Navi “Radeon graphics cards. RX ”around the fourth quarter of 2020.
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#5822628 Posted on: 08/28/2020 11:19 AM
lol wtf?
While I understand your frustration couldn't those same people play devil's advocate and retort "well we never tried meth but know it's bad" ? Personal first-hand exposure with something doesn't necessarily qualify one in every case.
I understand undying frustration. Me personally I have no problem with people who keep buying Nvidia and will never give a fair shot to AMD, (I own personally both). But some Nvidia user are like iPhone user who will never touch an Android phone even with a 10 foots pole, but can't stop complaining about apple price.
If you are Nvidia for life, no problem, you are not happy with Nvidia pricing, no problem either, but stop complaining about it and put the fault on AMD "lack" of competition !
lol wtf?
While I understand your frustration couldn't those same people play devil's advocate and retort "well we never tried meth but know it's bad" ? Personal first-hand exposure with something doesn't necessarily qualify one in every case.
I understand undying frustration. Me personally I have no problem with people who keep buying Nvidia and will never give a fair shot to AMD, (I own personally both). But some Nvidia user are like iPhone user who will never touch an Android phone even with a 10 foots pole, but can't stop complaining about apple price.
If you are Nvidia for life, no problem, you are not happy with Nvidia pricing, no problem either, but stop complaining about it and put the fault on AMD "lack" of competition !
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#5822633 Posted on: 08/28/2020 11:39 AM
I understand undying frustration. Me personally I have no problem with people who keep buying Nvidia and will never give a fair shot to AMD, (I own personally both). But some Nvidia user are like iPhone user who will never touch an Android phone even with a 10 foots pole, but can't stop complaining about apple price.
If you are Nvidia for life, no problem, you are not happy with Nvidia pricing, no problem either, but stop complaining about it and put the fault on AMD "lack" of competition !
I buy NVIDIA & complain about its prices. I also buy Apple & complain about its prices. I'm an American and complain about my Government. I imagine my list could go on and on... my point being this is normal and there is nothing wrong with it.
EDIT: lol I buy AMD graphics and complain about their shit drivers. (granted I buy workstation GPUs but hey still counts)
I'm an equal opportunity complainist'
I understand undying frustration. Me personally I have no problem with people who keep buying Nvidia and will never give a fair shot to AMD, (I own personally both). But some Nvidia user are like iPhone user who will never touch an Android phone even with a 10 foots pole, but can't stop complaining about apple price.
If you are Nvidia for life, no problem, you are not happy with Nvidia pricing, no problem either, but stop complaining about it and put the fault on AMD "lack" of competition !
I buy NVIDIA & complain about its prices. I also buy Apple & complain about its prices. I'm an American and complain about my Government. I imagine my list could go on and on... my point being this is normal and there is nothing wrong with it.
EDIT: lol I buy AMD graphics and complain about their shit drivers. (granted I buy workstation GPUs but hey still counts)
I'm an equal opportunity complainist'
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#5822638 Posted on: 08/28/2020 12:00 PM
If this is true, this is the epitome of bad. It means they don't test properly.
You understand that in this specific case then it might be his system, but the reason they put this in the driver release notes is for the majority of cases, right? You basically consider your sample of one to be of greater validity than the sample that AMD has.
I am actually optimistic it might. AMD will probably hit the /70 /80 card sweet spot against Nvidia. I suspect they will have lower prices of around $100, but slower ray tracing and no DLSS. Which means they'll be kind of DOA again, like Navi.
1st) Power management "fix" is not proof of regression. They simply had adequate reference systems and could not catch issues people with damn bad systems and cabling habits got.
If this is true, this is the epitome of bad. It means they don't test properly.
2nd) As I wrote, I can literally take those "fixed" drivers (which cousin has anyway), and replicate issue on system that works perfectly well in my place just by letting him mess his cabling way he did before.
You understand that in this specific case then it might be his system, but the reason they put this in the driver release notes is for the majority of cases, right? You basically consider your sample of one to be of greater validity than the sample that AMD has.
I do not think there is going to be Big Navi powerful enough to be what I call upgrade over 2080 Ti.
I am actually optimistic it might. AMD will probably hit the /70 /80 card sweet spot against Nvidia. I suspect they will have lower prices of around $100, but slower ray tracing and no DLSS. Which means they'll be kind of DOA again, like Navi.
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#5822649 Posted on: 08/28/2020 12:55 PM
I buy NVIDIA & complain about its prices. I also buy Apple & complain about its prices. I'm an American and complain about my Government. I imagine my list could go on and on... my point being this is normal and there is nothing wrong with it.
EDIT: lol I buy AMD graphics and complain about their crap drivers. (granted I buy workstation GPUs but hey still counts)
I'm an equal opportunity complainist'
You do understand that complaining about something that you are a part of it will do nothing to correct the problem.
Nvidia price won't come down because for probably 70% or even more of their customer base, they are only competing with themselves.
Turing RTX pre-super didn't sell well not because AMD had a strong offering (at that time it was awful), but because Turing was weak in term of value against Nvidia own Pascal card.
The super card sold better not because AMD was weaker, but because the super cards were better AGAIN against Pascal card....
Edit: it is exactly the same problem at an even stronger degree with Apple. I wouldn't be surprised if it was for 90% or more of their customer base
I buy NVIDIA & complain about its prices. I also buy Apple & complain about its prices. I'm an American and complain about my Government. I imagine my list could go on and on... my point being this is normal and there is nothing wrong with it.
EDIT: lol I buy AMD graphics and complain about their crap drivers. (granted I buy workstation GPUs but hey still counts)
I'm an equal opportunity complainist'
You do understand that complaining about something that you are a part of it will do nothing to correct the problem.
Nvidia price won't come down because for probably 70% or even more of their customer base, they are only competing with themselves.
Turing RTX pre-super didn't sell well not because AMD had a strong offering (at that time it was awful), but because Turing was weak in term of value against Nvidia own Pascal card.
The super card sold better not because AMD was weaker, but because the super cards were better AGAIN against Pascal card....
Edit: it is exactly the same problem at an even stronger degree with Apple. I wouldn't be surprised if it was for 90% or more of their customer base
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Right, so you're saying that they lied on their release notes? Why would they do that? Why would they even acknowledge what they acknowledged, if they could just write:
"Fixed a regression in the boost algorithm that might cause a crash for some users".
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What I understand from this is that you don't understand how any of these things work. All hardware works with specific tolerance levels, and in different voltages etc. There are no "stable conditions", there is a "range of stable conditions". You can never have the exact same configuration, even in exactly replicated hardware like the consoles. Software and hardware design is supposed to take this into account, if it doesn't, it fails. I cannot understand how this is still a conversation when AMD themselves literally admitted it was a driver issue in their own driver notes.
Oh yea, and with the exception of Vulkan, AMD drivers do suck.
1st) Power management "fix" is not proof of regression. They simply had adequate reference systems and could not catch issues people with damn bad systems and cabling habits got.
2nd) As I wrote, I can literally take those "fixed" drivers (which cousin has anyway), and replicate issue on system that works perfectly well in my place just by letting him mess his cabling way he did before.
So tell me, is black screen fixed or not? Because I can intentionally cause it not by messing with driver and software, but by electrical interference means.
Mind you, I'd gladly try Big Navi (if it's fast enough) but I would want to be sure that the chance of things working is high enough before taking the leap.
I do not think there is going to be Big Navi powerful enough to be what I call upgrade over 2080 Ti.