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Nvidia settles GeForce GTX 970 memory scandal in the USA
Nvidia gives American owners of GTX 970 may receive $ 30 back. That is the outcome of a settlement that the company has made in a class action case from disgruntled buyers after the scandal about the 3.5 / 4.0 amount of memory.
The parties settled at an amount of $ 30, according to Top Class Action who was behind the law-suit. The nukber is based on an average selling price of $ 350. It is an interim arrangement, the details of have not been disclosed. Nvidia promises to offer the amount to any American buyer who purchased the 970 and makes the claim. Nvidia also pays the legal fees for the lawsuit.
End-uers were dissatisfied that the GTX 970 did not use the amount of memory that Nvidia advertised and sold the product for. The company claimed in its introduction to a GTX 970 with 4GB GDDR5, but later had to admit that the memory was divided into a portion of 3,5GB and a slower partition of 512MB. These cards also had 56 instead of 64 rops, while the company initially advertised 56 initially. In addition, the amount of L2 cache used is 1792KB instead of 2048KB. Nvidia has always denied that there was any intent and dismissed this as communication error.
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#5313571 Posted on: 07/29/2016 11:39 PM
Gimped settlement for a garbage gimped product.. I wish the users got more than 30 bucks.
Gimped settlement for a garbage gimped product.. I wish the users got more than 30 bucks.
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#5313573 Posted on: 07/29/2016 11:44 PM
Garbage product?
Gimped settlement for a garbage gimped product.. I wish the users got more than 30 bucks.
Garbage product?
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#5313601 Posted on: 07/30/2016 12:36 AM
Time for Fermi DirectX 12 and Vulkan advertisement lawsuit ?
Nvidia has such a great DirectX 12 and Vulkan drivers since the company has promised it to Fermi. Ohh , wait! They don't.
Time for Fermi DirectX 12 and Vulkan advertisement lawsuit ?
Nvidia has such a great DirectX 12 and Vulkan drivers since the company has promised it to Fermi. Ohh , wait! They don't.
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#5313618 Posted on: 07/30/2016 01:06 AM
I bought a second 970 even after the 3.5/0.5 news leaked.
I would have preferred they were honest about it, but it never become a problem performance wise, even when downsampling from 4k.
I bought a second 970 even after the 3.5/0.5 news leaked.
I would have preferred they were honest about it, but it never become a problem performance wise, even when downsampling from 4k.
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#5313630 Posted on: 07/30/2016 01:25 AM
Time for Fermi DirectX 12 and Vulkan advertisement lawsuit ?
Nvidia has such a great DirectX 12 and Vulkan drivers since the company has promised it to Fermi. Ohh , wait! They don't.
Fermi nevercoming dx12 driver, abusing excessive tessellation in gameworks tittles, downgrading older gen cards, disabling async compute via driver. What a list.
I wonder why AMD has nothing of this kind. I guess 4GB means 4GB.
Time for Fermi DirectX 12 and Vulkan advertisement lawsuit ?
Nvidia has such a great DirectX 12 and Vulkan drivers since the company has promised it to Fermi. Ohh , wait! They don't.
Fermi nevercoming dx12 driver, abusing excessive tessellation in gameworks tittles, downgrading older gen cards, disabling async compute via driver. What a list.
I wonder why AMD has nothing of this kind. I guess 4GB means 4GB.
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#5313638 Posted on: 07/30/2016 01:32 AM
Fermi nevercoming dx12 driver, abusing excessive tessellation in gameworks tittles, downgrading older gen cards, disabling async compute via driver. What a list.
I wonder why AMD has nothing of this kind. I guess 4GB means 4GB.
You have forgotten Fastsync. It has been disabled on kepler and fermi . Since lot of us made noise about this, not only pascal but maxwell can have this very sophisticated feature.
Since Fermi has been advertised as DX 12 api supported hw. Nvidia has lost already. Specially, after GTX 970 issue.
Fermi nevercoming dx12 driver, abusing excessive tessellation in gameworks tittles, downgrading older gen cards, disabling async compute via driver. What a list.
I wonder why AMD has nothing of this kind. I guess 4GB means 4GB.
You have forgotten Fastsync. It has been disabled on kepler and fermi . Since lot of us made noise about this, not only pascal but maxwell can have this very sophisticated feature.
Since Fermi has been advertised as DX 12 api supported hw. Nvidia has lost already. Specially, after GTX 970 issue.
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#5313642 Posted on: 07/30/2016 01:40 AM
mmmm i wonder
People here think its ok to lie on the box and mislead the consumer.
This is a company selling a product to us and lying about it.
What is they was selling compressed air for divers or tires for cars or fuel consumption rating or maximum safe temperature of a cooker or the strength of a rope.
Its a company selling us a product and people seem to forget this simple fact.
If it was any of the above no one would be saying it was a fiasco would they.
mmmm i wonder
People here think its ok to lie on the box and mislead the consumer.
This is a company selling a product to us and lying about it.
What is they was selling compressed air for divers or tires for cars or fuel consumption rating or maximum safe temperature of a cooker or the strength of a rope.
Its a company selling us a product and people seem to forget this simple fact.
If it was any of the above no one would be saying it was a fiasco would they.
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#5313645 Posted on: 07/30/2016 01:46 AM
No way around the fact we have all been lied to even the people who dont own one.
Its still false advertising and saying its fine for them to do it sets a bad precedent for the future.
The reason behind the logic some people use to defend is the reason nvidia feel its ok for them to sell people the FE cards
and gift them 100$ on top of disgusting prices.
And yet people go out and buy them and then complain about the price, You are you own worst enemy and ask for it.
No way around the fact we have all been lied to even the people who dont own one.
Its still false advertising and saying its fine for them to do it sets a bad precedent for the future.
The reason behind the logic some people use to defend is the reason nvidia feel its ok for them to sell people the FE cards
and gift them 100$ on top of disgusting prices.
And yet people go out and buy them and then complain about the price, You are you own worst enemy and ask for it.
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#5313646 Posted on: 07/30/2016 01:48 AM
I don't think anyone here said it was ok.
I was annoyed when i first found out but got over it when i had no performance issues because of it, even picked up a second card cheap(ish) because of it.
Every cloud etc...
I don't think anyone here said it was ok.
I was annoyed when i first found out but got over it when i had no performance issues because of it, even picked up a second card cheap(ish) because of it.
Every cloud etc...
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#5313652 Posted on: 07/30/2016 02:00 AM
No way around the fact we have all been lied to even the people who dont own one.
Its still false advertising and saying its fine for them to do it sets a bad precedent for the future.
The reason behind the logic some people use to defend is the reason nvidia feel its ok for them to sell people the FE cards
and gift them 100$ on top of disgusting prices.
And yet people go out and buy them and then complain about the price, You are you own worst enemy and ask for it.
Oh you haven't been keeping up with NVIDIA's latest scandal. FE cards are all superior to non FE cards.
No way around the fact we have all been lied to even the people who dont own one.
Its still false advertising and saying its fine for them to do it sets a bad precedent for the future.
The reason behind the logic some people use to defend is the reason nvidia feel its ok for them to sell people the FE cards
and gift them 100$ on top of disgusting prices.
And yet people go out and buy them and then complain about the price, You are you own worst enemy and ask for it.
Oh you haven't been keeping up with NVIDIA's latest scandal. FE cards are all superior to non FE cards.
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#5313658 Posted on: 07/30/2016 02:09 AM
Fermi nevercoming dx12 driver, abusing excessive tessellation in gameworks tittles, downgrading older gen cards, disabling async compute via driver. What a list.
I wonder why AMD has nothing of this kind. I guess 4GB means 4GB.
And limiting newer cards on 60Hz monitors to prevent them from setting custom resolutions and refresh rates.
I "upgraded" to a 970 fromo a 580, but i now get 15fps less (from 75) in alot my games (older one obv) as setting a custom refresh rate is no longer working.
Fermi nevercoming dx12 driver, abusing excessive tessellation in gameworks tittles, downgrading older gen cards, disabling async compute via driver. What a list.
I wonder why AMD has nothing of this kind. I guess 4GB means 4GB.
And limiting newer cards on 60Hz monitors to prevent them from setting custom resolutions and refresh rates.
I "upgraded" to a 970 fromo a 580, but i now get 15fps less (from 75) in alot my games (older one obv) as setting a custom refresh rate is no longer working.
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#5313664 Posted on: 07/30/2016 02:23 AM
And limiting newer cards on 60Hz monitors to prevent them from setting custom resolutions and refresh rates.
I "upgraded" to a 970 fromo a 580, but i now get 15fps less (from 75) in alot my games (older one obv) as setting a custom refresh rate is no longer working.
Well, you have been lucky not to experience the black screen issue as i did and many of us. To be honest, i never learned about this kind of issue what you have describe before of me. Always something new to pop up, unfortunately.
I am still very sad about the major lack of communication of Nvidia representatives in Fermi DX 12 and other matters. Seems to me, care is forgotten and only something to drive to show them up if they really need to make some good impression. After that, silents . Huge ignorance shows from them and Nvidia. Since representatives are represent the company of behalf , it is unacceptable .
Just for the fact, ManuelG is online in this very moment and just staying into the shadows. He's a representative of Nvidia. http://forums.guru3d.com/member.php?u=226764
And limiting newer cards on 60Hz monitors to prevent them from setting custom resolutions and refresh rates.
I "upgraded" to a 970 fromo a 580, but i now get 15fps less (from 75) in alot my games (older one obv) as setting a custom refresh rate is no longer working.
Well, you have been lucky not to experience the black screen issue as i did and many of us. To be honest, i never learned about this kind of issue what you have describe before of me. Always something new to pop up, unfortunately.
I am still very sad about the major lack of communication of Nvidia representatives in Fermi DX 12 and other matters. Seems to me, care is forgotten and only something to drive to show them up if they really need to make some good impression. After that, silents . Huge ignorance shows from them and Nvidia. Since representatives are represent the company of behalf , it is unacceptable .
Just for the fact, ManuelG is online in this very moment and just staying into the shadows. He's a representative of Nvidia. http://forums.guru3d.com/member.php?u=226764
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#5313667 Posted on: 07/30/2016 02:27 AM
I will trade my 4GB 960 for anyone's 3.5GB 970.....any takers?....
I will trade my 4GB 960 for anyone's 3.5GB 970.....any takers?....
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#5313669 Posted on: 07/30/2016 02:31 AM
Well, like someone is trying to make an international call from phone booth , for free.(without toll free numbers of course)
I will trade my 4GB 960 for anyone's 3.5GB 970.....any takers?....
Well, like someone is trying to make an international call from phone booth , for free.(without toll free numbers of course)
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I wouldn't say it doesn't matter. Nvidia should definitely be penalized for it, regardless to whether it was intentional or not.
That being said, I agree with you that it was mostly overblown. The vast majority of people look at the initial benchmarks and buy the cards, they don't scrutinize memory configurations or architecture faults. Had Nvidia explained the memory situation for the cards launch, I doubt anyone would have cared.
I got the card based solely on it's performance. Memory configuration was never a consideration and had it been advertised accurately, I'd have still bought the card. If I was a gamer, I'd even buy a second for SLI without hesitation.