Guru3D.com
  • HOME
  • NEWS
    • Channels
    • Archive
  • DOWNLOADS
    • New Downloads
    • Categories
    • Archive
  • GAME REVIEWS
  • ARTICLES
    • Rig of the Month
    • Join ROTM
    • PC Buyers Guide
    • Guru3D VGA Charts
    • Editorials
    • Dated content
  • HARDWARE REVIEWS
    • Videocards
    • Processors
    • Audio
    • Motherboards
    • Memory and Flash
    • SSD Storage
    • Chassis
    • Media Players
    • Power Supply
    • Laptop and Mobile
    • Smartphone
    • Networking
    • Keyboard Mouse
    • Cooling
    • Search articles
    • Knowledgebase
    • More Categories
  • FORUMS
  • NEWSLETTER
  • CONTACT

New Reviews
Corsair MM700 & Corsair Katar Pro XT Review
Guru3D Rig of the Month - February 2021
ASUS GeForce RTX 3060 STRIX Gaming OC review
EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 XC Gaming review
MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Gaming X TRIO review
PALIT GeForce RTX 3060 DUAL OC review
ZOTAC GeForce RTX 3060 AMP WHITE review
Fractal Design Meshify 2 Compact chassis review
Sabrent Rocket 4 PLUS 2TB NVMe SSD review
MSI Radeon RX 6900 XT GAMING X TRIO review

New Downloads
Display Driver Uninstaller Download version 18.0.3.7
Guru3D RTSS Rivatuner Statistics Server Download 7.3.0 Final
Media Player Classic - Home Cinema v1.9.10 Download
GeForce 461.72 WHQL driver download
AIDA64 Download Version 6.32.5640 beta
CrystalDiskInfo 8.11.2 Download
AMD Radeon Adrenalin Edition 21.2.3 driver download
GPU-Z Download v2.37.0
Intel HD graphics Driver Download Version: DCH27.20.100.9313
HWiNFO Download v6.43 - 4380 Beta


New Forum Topics
Just did raid 0 m2 ssds RDNA2 RX6000 Series Owners Thread, Tests, Mods, BIOS & Tweaks ! MSI Z490 Motherboards Open Up for PCIe 4.0 Graphics Cards and SSDs AMD Fury X Owners' Thread Intel stops Performance Tuning Protection Plan, PTPP, for all eligible K-series CPUs Review: Corsair MM700 & Corsair Katar Pro XT Radeon RX 6700 XT would have a starting price of 479 USD and see better availability Need help with HPET Next-gen AMD EPYC (Genoa) Would get 50% larger socket SP5, 96 cores and 400W TDP Intel Core i7-11700K Rocket Lake-S is already selling at German etailer




Guru3D.com » News » Nvidia Prevents Reselling Bundled Games By Forcing GeForce Experience

Nvidia Prevents Reselling Bundled Games By Forcing GeForce Experience

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 02/03/2017 11:51 AM | source: | 76 comment(s)
Nvidia Prevents Reselling Bundled Games By Forcing GeForce Experience

Right, this is going to be a complicated story to explain. As you guys know I have been rather critical towards what Nvidia is doing with GeForce Experience. At first it was intended to be a platform that automatically set preferred game settings in relation to a game and your GeForce graphics card.

Then Nvidia came with the idea that all driver downloads would be exclusive towards GFE. Then in a later stage they forced a login to be able to download the driver. Now they did change their mind here as they still offer the drivers as separate download. Somewhere in-between it all Nvidia started collecting all kinds of data and information with GeForce Experience. The GFE application reads out your settings, software and hardware. To date nobody really knows what Nvidia is doing with that big-data that ends up in a cloud at Nvidia.

The new chapter for GeForce experience is that all that data is tied towards a user account. If you haven’t noticed, in order to be able to use GFE for the most simplistic things like recording etc you actually need to (are forced) to login to the software these days. This means that Nvidia is creating profiles based on your email address, Nvidia account, Google account and/or a facebook account.
  



You cannot use GeForce Experience without a mandatory forced login to redeem your game-code

And now we arrive at last weeks game bundle. Last week Nvidia introduced a new game bundle for the GeForce GTX 1070 and 1080. Here’s what is happening, in order to redeem the game codes , you’ll are now forced to have GeForce Experience installed and to be logged in (which is mandatory these days). Nvidia is claiming to do this so that keys will not be resold or given away to your friends. However from here on-wards things get very tricky, Nvidia is now using that GFE data and will be checking your user-info and ties that towards your hardware. E.g. the game-codes will only handed out if you have that GeForce GTX 1070 or 1080 physically installed on your PC. So again, when you redeem the game code that card HAS to be installed in your system and you HAVE to be logged into GFE.

This new chapter has started with the For Honor en Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands Bundle. While Nvidia claims this all has nothing to do with spying, tracking, or other immoral activities, it surely is getting scary to see what they have been doing in the past year or so with GFE.

In my prediction it will not be long before the parties like perhaps EU Commission will start an investigation on Nvidia, they are collecting system and user data of millions of end-users through GeForce Experience. First you spend hundreds of euros/dollars on a graphics cards and then if you want to fully use the features and software they are forcing you to login to their system allowing them to harvest and track data. While many people will have no problem with data-collection, I find the recent developments to have become rather scary - free games or not.

Nvidia's updated terms and conditions for promotional codes are listed in its latest bundle, which offers the choice of For Honor or Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands with the purchase of a GTX 1070 or GTX 1080. Now there is a secondary discussion here as well, if you spend 750 euros/usd on your GeForce GTX 1080 which comes with a free game, why shoudn't it be able for you to giveaway that code if you own the game already - or perhaps make a few bucks by selling it ?

Over the past year GFE slowly is moving from a fairly handy utility towards enforced bloatware it seems. Perhaps I am looking at it in a different way though. I would love to hear from you guys in our forums whether all this is morally acceptable, or us just being a bit too paranoid from my side?.



Nvidia Prevents Reselling Bundled Games By Forcing GeForce Experience




« Acer XR382CQK 38-inch 3440 x 1600 Ultrawide IPS Curved Monitor · Nvidia Prevents Reselling Bundled Games By Forcing GeForce Experience · AMD Ryzen CPU scores pop up in Ashes Of The Singularity Benchmark Database »

Related Stories

Nvidia Pascal GP100 Die Shot Photo - 08/25/2016 09:05 AM
Over at the Hot Chips symposium Nvidia has been sharing a thing or two with media. Quite interesting is a new photo series of the GP100. Now do not confuse GP100 with the GP102 that is housed in the N...

Nvidia Pascal GP104-400 GPU photo surfaces and shows GDDR5X Memory - 04/25/2016 08:45 AM
Yet another PCB photo appeared with on it, a GPU seated. This time it is the  GP104-400-A1 GPU which which would be the 3rd Pascal GPU surfacing, and kind of seems to cinfirm a 980 Ti succesor, the ...

NVIDIA partners halt GeForce GTX 970, 980, 980Ti production and GPU Pascal codenames surface - 04/13/2016 08:25 AM
In anticipation of upcoming Pascal products in the coming month or two, at least that's what hwbattle is reporting this morning. As we get closer to the actual launch more and more tiny little detai...

Nvidia Pascal Consumer card announced during Computex - 04/11/2016 01:48 PM
But they will launch later ... Nvidia is to announce its consumer grade Pascal graphics cards at Computex 2016 from May 31-June 4, graphics card manufacturers include Asus, Gigabyte and MSI. They wou...

NVIDIA Pascal GP104 Die Photo - 04/11/2016 09:39 AM
Last week Nvidia announced the Tesla P100 data-center GPU and if you looked closely at the photo's you could already clearly see that big Pascal 15B transistor GPU being used. A new photo this time...


16 pages « 2 3 4 5 > »


GSDragoon
Senior Member



Posts: 273
Joined: 2006-11-29

#5388261 Posted on: 02/03/2017 01:11 PM
So if you upgrade your video card, you lose access to the game? That would be awful.

FranciscoCL
Senior Member



Posts: 216
Joined: 2015-03-23

#5388263 Posted on: 02/03/2017 01:17 PM
So if you upgrade your video card, you lose access to the game? That would be awful.


Maybe the game is tied to your account and not to specific videocard.

Irenicus
Senior Member



Posts: 578
Joined: 2015-05-03

#5388265 Posted on: 02/03/2017 01:21 PM
"you’ll are now forced to have GeForce Experience installed and to be logged in"

Not true at all. Or are you speaking of only for this bundle? because the way you've worded it you make it sound like we are forced to install it when installing drivers, which is not the case at all. If I want to use GFE I already have all the telemetry disabled and have an old version where I do not need to log in and it retains all it's functionality

I don't agree with this practice, however they are a business and of course they are going to try and find ways to make you use their software.

Singleton99
Senior Member



Posts: 1046
Joined: 2012-04-18

#5388266 Posted on: 02/03/2017 01:21 PM
Im like many others here ,i don't use GFE and haven't for a long time , i also block or remove their telemetry , at the end of the day ,if you get a free game that's it's it free and you should be able to do with as you see fit.

I have a feeling that one day the GFE will become some kind of a DRM system and they will also be selling there own sponsored games ..

If i was in the market for a new graphics card i would different be considering AMD when there new releases come out, it's time to vote with our wallets and teach Nvidia a lesson guys..

Irenicus
Senior Member



Posts: 578
Joined: 2015-05-03

#5388267 Posted on: 02/03/2017 01:23 PM
Another company going corrupt, if I by a piece of hardware like a graphics card, and get a free game, it is up to me want I want to do with it, I should not be forced into installing bloatware, I have no need for Nvidia crappy GFE. I'am getting a 1070 in the next week, and I know it comes with a choice of the 2 free games, which I'm actually not interested in, and when I get asked to choose i will say to the guy you have it.


To be fair, GFE is anything but crappy. Sure the game optimisation is crap as it usually changes my settings to NON optimal settings, the opposite of what it is supposed to do. However, Shadowplay is amazing. But hey if you want to use obsolete FRAPs feel free :)

16 pages « 2 3 4 5 > »


Post New Comment
Click here to post a comment for this news story on the message forum.


Guru3D.com © 2021