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NVIDIA P102-100 GPU Spotted For Crypto - has 3200 shader cores and 5GB
One of the more amazing trends in 2017/2018 has got to be the rise in demand for anything crypto related. The entire hardware industry took a dive in it, from motherboards to graphics cards to even more efficient power supplies. Now, a new NVIDIA GPU has been spotted. Well, not entirely new, but reconfigured.
Nvidia seems to be putting a crypto version of an existing GPU on the market, the P102-100 is based on the same GP102 chip that the GeForce GTX 1080 Ti and GTX Titan Xp use. It, however, will be reconfigured, it'll get fewer memory channels, fewer shader cores and less memory. All this makes the crypto card cheaper to make and sell while retaining high hash rates. The GP102-100 card leaked originates from Inno3D and will have 3200 out of its 3840 shader cores activated.
Inno3D P102-100 Specifications
- GPU: P102-100
- CUDA Cores: 3200
- Base Clock: 1582 MHz
- Memory Clock: 11 Gbps
- Physical Memory Size: 5 GB
- Memory Type: GDDR5X
- Memory Interface Width: 320-bit
- Memory Bandwidth: 400 GB / s
- Bus Support: PCIe Gen3 x4
- Card Size: 21.5 cm length, 12.5 cm height, dual slot
- Max TDP: 250 Watt
- Power Connectors: 2x 8-pin PCI-E
Inno3D P102-100 Hashrate
- ETH: ~ 47 MHS
- ZEC: ~ 660 Sol / s
- XMR: ~ 879 H / s
The memory controllers normally get 2GB per controller assigned, now just 1GB, the card this has 5GB of VRAM. There's more cut away, only 4 PCIe lanes will be used, this to be able to add more (other) cards onto a motherboard. Prices have not been shared, availability remains a huge question mark as well. From what I understand, these cards receive one month of warranty.
Source: cryptomining-blog via HWI.
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#5527737 Posted on: 03/13/2018 03:58 PM
Probably a smart move, make separate mining cards from actual graphics cards. Can be made with same process with tweaks.
How long it will take before this helps the situation idk. If even true but don't see why not.
"These cards will get one month warranty" Haha
I also think GPU makers should start programming firmware or drivers for graphics cards so that they don't run mining software at all to really help resolve the situation.
Only mining accelerators run mining software. So in other words mining cards would use a separate driver / firmware branch that is not compatible with actual graphics cards and vice versa.
Shouldn't be too much effort either, make a mining branch from geforce drivers that only supports mining devices.
Obviously sophisticated enough so that .inf modding or BIOS hacking isn't possible.
Otherwise miners will still buy graphics cards if mining accelerators are unavailable etc.
Probably a smart move, make separate mining cards from actual graphics cards. Can be made with same process with tweaks.
How long it will take before this helps the situation idk. If even true but don't see why not.
"These cards will get one month warranty" Haha
I also think GPU makers should start programming firmware or drivers for graphics cards so that they don't run mining software at all to really help resolve the situation.
Only mining accelerators run mining software. So in other words mining cards would use a separate driver / firmware branch that is not compatible with actual graphics cards and vice versa.
Shouldn't be too much effort either, make a mining branch from geforce drivers that only supports mining devices.
Obviously sophisticated enough so that .inf modding or BIOS hacking isn't possible.
Otherwise miners will still buy graphics cards if mining accelerators are unavailable etc.
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#5527745 Posted on: 03/13/2018 04:14 PM
I also think GPU makers should start programming firmware or drivers for graphics cards so that they don't run mining software at all to really help resolve the situation.
Oh yes, lets limit what our graphics cards are capable of doing because of selfishness among gamers. Totes makes sense brah.
Man you guys sure do think up some screwed up things, and not even realize how screwed up it is.
Time and time again people want to do more with what they buy, and are pissed off when companies specifically make a product not be able to do something it otherwise should be able to do.
But hey, when its your own selfishness coming to the door, who cares about all that right? You throw it all away for your own selfishness.
And how exactly do you expect them to not run "mining software"? Or, wait, you're one of those people who probably don't understand what mining is, how many different algorithms there are, how they'd have to block each one (screwing up their gaming performance along the way) all to stop what? Nothing, because then they'd use a previously unknown algorithm, or one they just made?
Or, do you want them to simply...stop doing math on GPUs? Yeah, good luck with that.
Shouldn't be too much effort either
lol, yeah that pretty much sums up your whole post. Not knowing how difficult something would be, how much harm it'd do, and then "shouldn't be too much effort"
You know it's also funny that gamers think that GPU miners (which for clarification sake i do not do, i find it to be too costly for the profits) are happy that it's both hard and expensive to buy GPUs as well. As if GPU miners wouldn't benefit from a better supply then what has been being given out.
So what, GPU miners come into play, create a lot more demand, and now it's up to nvidia and AMD to step up their game to provide it. But hey, lets not blame nvidia or AMD for not providing enough, lets blame the people who are buying GPUs legally and rightfully.
Next we'll be complaining that a family of 10 is buying too much of what i like from the market for my family of 2, and tell everyone that this product should only be available for people with 4 or less family members, and anyone with more, can buy something else that isn't as low on quantities.
I also think GPU makers should start programming firmware or drivers for graphics cards so that they don't run mining software at all to really help resolve the situation.
Oh yes, lets limit what our graphics cards are capable of doing because of selfishness among gamers. Totes makes sense brah.
Man you guys sure do think up some screwed up things, and not even realize how screwed up it is.
Time and time again people want to do more with what they buy, and are pissed off when companies specifically make a product not be able to do something it otherwise should be able to do.
But hey, when its your own selfishness coming to the door, who cares about all that right? You throw it all away for your own selfishness.
And how exactly do you expect them to not run "mining software"? Or, wait, you're one of those people who probably don't understand what mining is, how many different algorithms there are, how they'd have to block each one (screwing up their gaming performance along the way) all to stop what? Nothing, because then they'd use a previously unknown algorithm, or one they just made?
Or, do you want them to simply...stop doing math on GPUs? Yeah, good luck with that.
Shouldn't be too much effort either
lol, yeah that pretty much sums up your whole post. Not knowing how difficult something would be, how much harm it'd do, and then "shouldn't be too much effort"
You know it's also funny that gamers think that GPU miners (which for clarification sake i do not do, i find it to be too costly for the profits) are happy that it's both hard and expensive to buy GPUs as well. As if GPU miners wouldn't benefit from a better supply then what has been being given out.
So what, GPU miners come into play, create a lot more demand, and now it's up to nvidia and AMD to step up their game to provide it. But hey, lets not blame nvidia or AMD for not providing enough, lets blame the people who are buying GPUs legally and rightfully.
Next we'll be complaining that a family of 10 is buying too much of what i like from the market for my family of 2, and tell everyone that this product should only be available for people with 4 or less family members, and anyone with more, can buy something else that isn't as low on quantities.
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#5527751 Posted on: 03/13/2018 04:28 PM
I guess an opportunity for Nvidia to get rid of any failed GP-102 chips that didnt make the bin for the 1080ti, but may still be good enough for mining.
I guess an opportunity for Nvidia to get rid of any failed GP-102 chips that didnt make the bin for the 1080ti, but may still be good enough for mining.
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#5527771 Posted on: 03/13/2018 05:42 PM
Probably a smart move, make separate mining cards from actual graphics cards. Can be made with same process with tweaks.
How long it will take before this helps the situation idk. If even true but don't see why not.
"These cards will get one month warranty" Haha
I also think GPU makers should start programming firmware or drivers for graphics cards so that they don't run mining software at all to really help resolve the situation.
Only mining accelerators run mining software. So in other words mining cards would use a separate driver / firmware branch that is not compatible with actual graphics cards and vice versa.
Shouldn't be too much effort either, make a mining branch from geforce drivers that only supports mining devices.
Obviously sophisticated enough so that .inf modding or BIOS hacking isn't possible.
Otherwise miners will still buy graphics cards if mining accelerators are unavailable etc.
One month warranty might be too short to have miners jump onto that wagon, sadly. They at least want warranty until the cards have earned enough money to justify the purchase, or people will just ignore it and pay a few $ extra for gaming card's warranty. Completely missed the warranty part I have to admit... doesn't make it such a good counter strategy to "free up" the gaming GPU market situation.
Well, if they start to read out your program use there's enough people not wanting the bloatware / spyware in their drivers, they would just get rid of that too, or block the program's functionality somehow. Driver hacking isn't as easy as it was before Pascal, that might work, drivers with crappy mining performance for gaming cards and well, a more mining based driver for cards like the one leaked.
I guess an opportunity for Nvidia to get rid of any failed GP-102 chips that didnt make the bin for the 1080ti, but may still be good enough for mining.
Yes, it is exactly that, getting rid of failed GP-102 chips. Very smart move. And more than AMD did so far.
Probably a smart move, make separate mining cards from actual graphics cards. Can be made with same process with tweaks.
How long it will take before this helps the situation idk. If even true but don't see why not.
"These cards will get one month warranty" Haha
I also think GPU makers should start programming firmware or drivers for graphics cards so that they don't run mining software at all to really help resolve the situation.
Only mining accelerators run mining software. So in other words mining cards would use a separate driver / firmware branch that is not compatible with actual graphics cards and vice versa.
Shouldn't be too much effort either, make a mining branch from geforce drivers that only supports mining devices.
Obviously sophisticated enough so that .inf modding or BIOS hacking isn't possible.
Otherwise miners will still buy graphics cards if mining accelerators are unavailable etc.
One month warranty might be too short to have miners jump onto that wagon, sadly. They at least want warranty until the cards have earned enough money to justify the purchase, or people will just ignore it and pay a few $ extra for gaming card's warranty. Completely missed the warranty part I have to admit... doesn't make it such a good counter strategy to "free up" the gaming GPU market situation.
Well, if they start to read out your program use there's enough people not wanting the bloatware / spyware in their drivers, they would just get rid of that too, or block the program's functionality somehow. Driver hacking isn't as easy as it was before Pascal, that might work, drivers with crappy mining performance for gaming cards and well, a more mining based driver for cards like the one leaked.
I guess an opportunity for Nvidia to get rid of any failed GP-102 chips that didnt make the bin for the 1080ti, but may still be good enough for mining.
Yes, it is exactly that, getting rid of failed GP-102 chips. Very smart move. And more than AMD did so far.
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Well, cut down memory connection and no graphics outputs? This seems to be a card that is truely aimed at miners. Not the worst of moves considering the market situation.