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Nvidia might overhaul GeForce GTX 1060 with GP104 (a GTX 1070 GPU)
A new rumor just surfaced, fresh from Asia. Nvidia seems to be overhauling the GeForce GTX 1060 one more time. We’ve seen a 6GB 8 Gbps and then 9 Gbps model, of course, the three GB model, heck even a 5GB model for the Asia region, and the latest rumor now indicates a GTX 1060 with a hacked GTX 1070 GPU.
It’s surely been silent at team green, Volta is kept for HPC, AI, and Deep learning usage, and the earlier rumors of a Pascal respin this year, have gone silent. As it seems now though, Nvidia might release a new GeForce GTX 1060 (GP106-400), however now based on a GP104-300 GPU. And that’s the chip used in the GeForce GTX 1070, reports Asia based Expreview.
Now before you get all excited (or not), the specifications in terms of graphics memory and 192-bit memory bus, shader count (1280), clocks and TDP etc, would remain the same and as such the performance levels would be the same as well. That begs the question, as to why Nvidia would release these revised GTX 1060 cards? Perhaps clearing GPU stock to make room for new products? Then again, the 1070's have been selling like puppies with the recent mining craze, weird huh?
The original GeForce GTX 1060 Founders edition with the Nvidia GP106-A1 GPU ( 1,506 MHz core / 1,709 MHz boost / 8,008 MHz memory )
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#5546614 Posted on: 05/14/2018 03:48 PM
And if this rumor is true they will be named 1060, even though they should be named 1065.
I guess it could be worse. Could be Intel. They take the cake by a wide margin.
(same specs as GTX 1060, same performance, same name).
And if this rumor is true they will be named 1060, even though they should be named 1065.
I guess it could be worse. Could be Intel. They take the cake by a wide margin.
(same specs as GTX 1060, same performance, same name).
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#5546627 Posted on: 05/14/2018 04:29 PM
For once they could leave some extra cuda cores enabled and name it the same.
Ps.- With faster memory too
For once they could leave some extra cuda cores enabled and name it the same.
Ps.- With faster memory too
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#5546628 Posted on: 05/14/2018 04:30 PM
No need to think that cutting chips is magic. It will have different thermal profile and OC potential will be different too.
Because you can't do 100% gating of everything. And because even with same building blocks, 1060 and 1070 have different block diagram, bit different size of each block. And while blocks are hand made, those transistors inside are positioned by AI in design phase to be most efficient within given limits.
GTX 1070 has 22.93M transistors per mm^2, GTX 1060 has 22M transistors per mm^2.
You can compare 120W TDP GTX 1060 3GB based on GTX1070 which has less enabled functional blocks than regular 120W TDP GTX 1060 6GB , and performs worse.
In a way nVidia is already turning GTX 1070s into GTX 1060s, just more crippled.
(same specs as GTX 1060, same performance, same name).
No need to think that cutting chips is magic. It will have different thermal profile and OC potential will be different too.
Because you can't do 100% gating of everything. And because even with same building blocks, 1060 and 1070 have different block diagram, bit different size of each block. And while blocks are hand made, those transistors inside are positioned by AI in design phase to be most efficient within given limits.
GTX 1070 has 22.93M transistors per mm^2, GTX 1060 has 22M transistors per mm^2.
You can compare 120W TDP GTX 1060 3GB based on GTX1070 which has less enabled functional blocks than regular 120W TDP GTX 1060 6GB , and performs worse.
In a way nVidia is already turning GTX 1070s into GTX 1060s, just more crippled.
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#5546645 Posted on: 05/14/2018 05:01 PM
I meant soft lock. Because on AMD's side, people try to unlock almost everything and with some manufacturers and production runs, they get lucky.
If it had more than spec sheet stated out of the box, it would be too obvious. People have to either mod vBIOS or just flash 1070 in there.
Soft locks aren't happening for NV.
Last soft lock(which was only for early production models) was the GTX 465 that was unlocked by flashing 470 bios on it.
AMD commonly uses soft locks because it's one less process(aka less cost) in manufacturing.
I meant soft lock. Because on AMD's side, people try to unlock almost everything and with some manufacturers and production runs, they get lucky.
If it had more than spec sheet stated out of the box, it would be too obvious. People have to either mod vBIOS or just flash 1070 in there.
Soft locks aren't happening for NV.
Last soft lock(which was only for early production models) was the GTX 465 that was unlocked by flashing 470 bios on it.
AMD commonly uses soft locks because it's one less process(aka less cost) in manufacturing.
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And if this rumor is true they will be named 1060, even though they should be named 1065.
I guess it could be worse. Could be Intel. They take the cake by a wide margin.