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NVIDIA: GPU prices will continue increasing through Q3 2018
You guys all have been able to observe the graphics card price spikes the past half year. Though things are a bit more steady and stable it seems that the trend might continue for a while. Nvidia now as well mentions that GPU prices will continue increasing through Q3 2018.
The news reaches us through dsogaming through hardware seller Massdrop, the pricing in the market will continue to go up through Q3 of this year. In specific, a discussion post on a GTX 1080 Ti on Massdrop from tech community lead Brian Hutchins talked about a visit from Nvidia to Massdrop HQ, in which they discussed the causes for the current shortages. As we've reported for a while now, it's now stated by green team, the two main reasons causing the GPU prices to increase each and every month are the mining craze and the graphics memory shortage.
“While NVIDIA was here they also let us know that the pricing in the market will continue to go up through Q3 of this year most likely before we start seeing any type of relief,” Hutch says. “So, unfortunately, the end to this is not right around the corner and we have not seen the worst of it yet.”
Miners are still purchasing every new high-end graphics card they can get their hands on and as a result of that, all NVIDIA and AMD partners have a hard time filling up inventory and stock. On the other hand, Apple and Samsung are willing to pay more for the memory that will be used in their smartphones. Factories are using the same production lines for the memory that is used in graphics cards and in smartphones and this has created a shortage of memory for companies like MSI, Gigabyte, Asus, and EVGA to make graphics cards. From the looks of it, things are not going to improve in the next couple of months.
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#5522808 Posted on: 02/25/2018 11:01 AM
I'm glad I don't need a new video card any time soon, but this sucks for anyone who does....and I feel bad for those people.
I'm glad I don't need a new video card any time soon, but this sucks for anyone who does....and I feel bad for those people.
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#5522809 Posted on: 02/25/2018 11:04 AM
Can someone tell me who is doing the price gouging?
Nvidia/AMD; do they put the trade price up because of Ram shortages?
Are the Retailers adding extra money to the original price to screw over customers?
Who is turning the £300 cards to £600? Who is making that extra £300 profit?
From what I've heard a chunk of the gouging is the RAM suppliers causing nVidia/AMD to increase their official MSRP, but the vast majority of it is the retailers selling cards at insane prices. Every official partner site I've seen selling cards had them far closer to MSRP or at MSRP versus what's available in stores at 2-3x that. The big issue with the RAM isn't that it just raises the direct price (last increase I heard was $30 USD per 8GB GDDR5 direct cost to the card manufacturers), it's that it's part of the reason for the shortage. Partners are hesitant to order enough RAM at such high prices to keep enough stock going for prices to not go nuts. They don't want to risk being stuck with a ton of overstock like the last time a crash happened.
Great for nVidia and would have been great for AMD if they were selling anything, but 2017 and now 2018 are turning out to be the (relative) worst year for PC gamers that I can remember. We're not going to get high frame rates at 4K becoming a standard anytime soon.
Can someone tell me who is doing the price gouging?
Nvidia/AMD; do they put the trade price up because of Ram shortages?
Are the Retailers adding extra money to the original price to screw over customers?
Who is turning the £300 cards to £600? Who is making that extra £300 profit?
From what I've heard a chunk of the gouging is the RAM suppliers causing nVidia/AMD to increase their official MSRP, but the vast majority of it is the retailers selling cards at insane prices. Every official partner site I've seen selling cards had them far closer to MSRP or at MSRP versus what's available in stores at 2-3x that. The big issue with the RAM isn't that it just raises the direct price (last increase I heard was $30 USD per 8GB GDDR5 direct cost to the card manufacturers), it's that it's part of the reason for the shortage. Partners are hesitant to order enough RAM at such high prices to keep enough stock going for prices to not go nuts. They don't want to risk being stuck with a ton of overstock like the last time a crash happened.
Great for nVidia and would have been great for AMD if they were selling anything, but 2017 and now 2018 are turning out to be the (relative) worst year for PC gamers that I can remember. We're not going to get high frame rates at 4K becoming a standard anytime soon.
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#5522812 Posted on: 02/25/2018 11:13 AM
Maybe some people thought I was joking when I suggested buying an Xbox 1 X previously, but these days it's the best gaming experience you're going to get on a budget. It can deliver a 1080p/60fps or 4K/30fps experience at high enough of a quality that it should be fine for PC gamers, if the loading times and input lag don't kill you. When a video card that's not even the top model costs $1.5K, it's time to ask yourself how much of an increase to the enjoyment it will bring over a $500 XB1X.
I hate the tight restrictions, and horrible loading times, (and plethora of other issues) of consoles as much anyone, but if I really wanted to play games at a decent quality, was on a budget, and couldn't wait, I'd actually buy a console. Unlike the PS3/360 generation, there isn't some horrendous face-melting difference versus a mid range PC. No 1024x576 res games running at 20fps with textures so low res that you can count the pixels. *cough*Platinum Games*cough*
The market due to video card and RAM prices is so screwed that it's actually cheaper to buy a pre-built system than build your own. Time to buy consoles folks.
When Nvidia releases their new line up in the next few months, these miners will buy up every single damn card that is available. A GTX 2080 is going to end up costing 1500 bucks as a result. Mining, the way gamers are meant to be played. We are going to have some disappointing times ahead for all who just want to buy a card for gaming.
Maybe some people thought I was joking when I suggested buying an Xbox 1 X previously, but these days it's the best gaming experience you're going to get on a budget. It can deliver a 1080p/60fps or 4K/30fps experience at high enough of a quality that it should be fine for PC gamers, if the loading times and input lag don't kill you. When a video card that's not even the top model costs $1.5K, it's time to ask yourself how much of an increase to the enjoyment it will bring over a $500 XB1X.
I hate the tight restrictions, and horrible loading times, (and plethora of other issues) of consoles as much anyone, but if I really wanted to play games at a decent quality, was on a budget, and couldn't wait, I'd actually buy a console. Unlike the PS3/360 generation, there isn't some horrendous face-melting difference versus a mid range PC. No 1024x576 res games running at 20fps with textures so low res that you can count the pixels. *cough*Platinum Games*cough*
The market due to video card and RAM prices is so screwed that it's actually cheaper to buy a pre-built system than build your own. Time to buy consoles folks.
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#5522814 Posted on: 02/25/2018 11:20 AM
If the hardware you currently have is functional and sufficient to run newer games, there's no reason to jump over to consoles. If you actually NEED a new graphics card, on the other hand, consoles aren't a bad idea as a way to hold out until prices finally become reasonable again.
What I wonder is, how much of this shortage is real and how much is just a way to justify higher prices down the road.....
If the hardware you currently have is functional and sufficient to run newer games, there's no reason to jump over to consoles. If you actually NEED a new graphics card, on the other hand, consoles aren't a bad idea as a way to hold out until prices finally become reasonable again.
What I wonder is, how much of this shortage is real and how much is just a way to justify higher prices down the road.....
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i really wish cpu mining was the in thing, not GPUs, cos gpu upgrading is more important when it comes to gamiing, cpu can survive a fair amount of time