NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 to be released on April 22nd

#5656154 Posted on: 04/02/2019 12:57 AM

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Uh... you can't judge products based on what you paid for when used. The 770 was $400 new; more than double the price of the 1650.
Also, I have a hard time believing the 1650 is worse than 770. The 1650 has double the memory, much higher clock speeds, presumably a few hundred more CUDA cores, smaller transistors, etc.
If you're basing your judgment on this one game, I would take that graph with a bucket of salt. There are many GPUs in that list that seem oddly slower than they should be.

The 1650 is overpriced, but my point is you can't really judge a product's price based on the price of an old used model.

I know the 770 was much more than 50 bucks new and maybe your right with aprox 400$. but that isn`t the point. The point is that a such an old gpu still matches up with a card with a msrp of 179$ and that is pretty terrible. Wrong you allso get the 770GTX with 4GB, clockspeed in it self doesn`t really matter, its what the gpu can do with the cycles that counts. the 770 got the same amount of unified shaders that the 1660ti have acording to hwcompare. true it may outperform the 770 in some games, but that still dont change that this card still got terrible performence to value ratio in my opinion.

I agree with aura89 in that buy whatever you like, want or need, but i disagree in that you can`t compare old stuff with new. is there any other way to measure progress?

#5656157 Posted on: 04/02/2019 01:45 AM

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I know the 770 was much more than 50 bucks new and maybe your right with aprox 400$. but that isn`t the point. The point is that a such an old gpu still matches up with a card with a msrp of 179$ and that is pretty terrible. Wrong you allso get the 770GTX with 4GB, clockspeed in it self doesn`t really matter, its what the gpu can do with the cycles that counts. the 770 got the same amount of unified shaders that the 1660ti have acording to hwcompare. true it may outperform the 770 in some games, but that still dont change that this card still got terrible performence to value ratio in my opinion.

I agree with aura89 in that buy whatever you like, want or need, but i disagree in that you can`t compare old stuff with new. is there any other way to measure progress?

I didn't say you can't compare old to new. Never once did i say that. You can compare old to new.

So lets compare old to new:

GTX 770, $399
Vs
GTX 1660, $179

Now you can compare.

But i don't understand this nonsense of something old being able to compete being a bad thing, i would hope if you buy something for $400, it would last a few years. The fact that a high end range card in 2013 can compete with a low end card today means nothing.

But i also agree with schmidtbag about this one benchmark being off.

According to this benchmark, both the gtx 1050 ti and 770 beat the 1650, even though:

GTX 1650 896 cores @ 1395mhz and 4gb gddr5, 128bit, 128gb bandwidth. (Rumored)
GTX 1050 ti, 768 cores @1290mhz and 4gb gddr5, 128bit, 128gb bandwidth

And granted that is rumored, but thats the only information i can find, which tells me if true, this benchmark here is not correct.

Here's all the information from that website, which, you'll see, the GTX 1650 being better then a 780, is all over the place.





techpowerups estimated relative performance looks more correct

#5656161 Posted on: 04/02/2019 02:23 AM

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So this card is for 1080p low quality settings, right?

#5656162 Posted on: 04/02/2019 02:25 AM

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aura89 "try to complain about new products MSRPs because of sales and used sales. There's nothing to compare." Yes i do compare the used price when it comes to my 6 year old 770GTX.
I have never said that it`s bad that my old 770 still can hang with newer products, this card has given me many many hours gameplay
I agree that the benchmark dosnt show how this product will really perform overall but that we will see in the not so distance future.

#5656165 Posted on: 04/02/2019 03:03 AM

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I don't think that is the most reliable benchmark personally, but in any case it appears they are launching a GPU that matches the performance of the 1050 Ti and at the same price point (going by newegg's current low end model pricing). That's a pretty crap release even without the deals for AMD RX 580s at the same price and noticeably more powerful. Doesn't Nvidia realize that people don't want same performance for the same price (or higher)? We want better performance for the same price otherwise there is zero reason to upgrade....