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NVIDIA: GeForce 1000 Series To Sell into 2019 - likely no RTX for Lower End Cards
A series of interesting answers have been given in an interview by the executive vice president and chief financial officer of Nvidia, Colette Kress, the interview was performed by Seeking Alpha.
The interviewer asked about the improvements that the Turing architecture would offer for gamers and developers. In the answer to that question, Kress makes an interesting choice in wording in the sentence: "The cards will come out. We'll start with the ray-tracing cards. We have the 2080 Ti, the 2080 and the 2070 overall coming to market."
That answer specifically does not include lower-end model and could mean that (and it makes sense really) that cards like 2050 and 2060 won't be released for a while. Actually it is rumored that they likely do not get Raytracing cores, and actually might remain in the GTX line of naming. It could also mean it might take a while before cards like 2060 would hit the market.
In another sentence, Kress indicates that Nvidia will also be selling Pascal cards in addition to Turing cards. "We will be selling probably for the holiday season, both our Turing and our Pascal overall architecture." And here you read that the existing Pascal line of product will be around for a while, right next to the new RTX products, so that's at least leading into Q1 2019.
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#5582914 Posted on: 09/10/2018 09:06 AM
It doesn't sound like an absolute definite that all Pascal cards will be selling into Q1 2019, because he uses the word "probably" in this following quote: "We will be selling probably for the holiday season, both our Turing and our Pascal overall architecture.". So it sounds like it might just be dependant on what Pascal stock is left over & how long that existing Pascal stock lasts. Although it does imply that this will be the likely scenario. For those deciding to buy Pascal, might make sense to buy sooner rather than later before stocks run out, provided you think prices for Pascal are at their lowest right now! I would guesstimate that Pascal prices will be at their lowest once the Turing cards have been launched from NVidia & also AIB partners, provided there is still sufficient Pascal supply at this point.
It doesn't sound like an absolute definite that all Pascal cards will be selling into Q1 2019, because he uses the word "probably" in this following quote: "We will be selling probably for the holiday season, both our Turing and our Pascal overall architecture.". So it sounds like it might just be dependant on what Pascal stock is left over & how long that existing Pascal stock lasts. Although it does imply that this will be the likely scenario. For those deciding to buy Pascal, might make sense to buy sooner rather than later before stocks run out, provided you think prices for Pascal are at their lowest right now! I would guesstimate that Pascal prices will be at their lowest once the Turing cards have been launched from NVidia & also AIB partners, provided there is still sufficient Pascal supply at this point.
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#5582917 Posted on: 09/10/2018 09:16 AM
This.
Smells like "excess" inventory and lack of competition in the market...Keep paying full price for 3 year old tech!
This.
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#5582919 Posted on: 09/10/2018 09:21 AM
Supply and demand. No buyers => prices drop or nV goes out of business while keeping prices high.
Don't blame bad guy for doing damage when "victims" ask him to do harm.
Smells like "excess" inventory and lack of competition in the market...Keep paying full price for 3 year old tech!
Supply and demand. No buyers => prices drop or nV goes out of business while keeping prices high.
Don't blame bad guy for doing damage when "victims" ask him to do harm.
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#5582926 Posted on: 09/10/2018 09:45 AM
"Actually it is rumored that they likely do not get Raytracing cores, and actually might remain in the GTX line of naming. It could also mean it might take a while before cards like 2060 would hit the market."
It looks like No-vidia is in a deep sh**. That is, the shelves are still full of (overpriced) cards and the new process is doubtful in terms of a yield and overall quality. Greediness takes it's toll.
And most certainly (not just likely) they do not get my money in foreseeable future. Until then, they will offer "raytracing cores" for free, just to sell any kind of cards.
"Actually it is rumored that they likely do not get Raytracing cores, and actually might remain in the GTX line of naming. It could also mean it might take a while before cards like 2060 would hit the market."
It looks like No-vidia is in a deep sh**. That is, the shelves are still full of (overpriced) cards and the new process is doubtful in terms of a yield and overall quality. Greediness takes it's toll.
And most certainly (not just likely) they do not get my money in foreseeable future. Until then, they will offer "raytracing cores" for free, just to sell any kind of cards.
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#5582931 Posted on: 09/10/2018 09:51 AM
I'm quite sure Colette is a woman.
he uses the word "probably" in this following quote:
I'm quite sure Colette is a woman.
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#5582935 Posted on: 09/10/2018 10:03 AM
Considering 2070 will cost more than 1080, they kind of have the lower range covered for the time being even without releasing anything new. At least Nvidia didn't do AMDs and rebrand old Pascals to cover the mainstream and entry levels of the 2000 series.
Considering 2070 will cost more than 1080, they kind of have the lower range covered for the time being even without releasing anything new. At least Nvidia didn't do AMDs and rebrand old Pascals to cover the mainstream and entry levels of the 2000 series.
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#5582943 Posted on: 09/10/2018 10:53 AM
Ah okay so my 1060 is still going to be worth more than i paid for it on ebay, I am hoping AMD step up for the next series of cards.
Ah okay so my 1060 is still going to be worth more than i paid for it on ebay, I am hoping AMD step up for the next series of cards.
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#5582945 Posted on: 09/10/2018 10:55 AM
I still don't understand why some are peed off with Nvidia with regards to this. Pascal cards still offer great performance in all the latest games and this won't change until next gen consoles arrive.
Sure the 2000 series are expensive but it's clear that this range is a test bed for the new architecture and prep for 7nm.
If you don't want to be an early adopter, enjoy Pascal performance and wait for the 7nm gen which will bring RTX to the mainstream at more affordable prices.
I imagine the 7nm range will see similar gains as we saw with Kepler < Maxwell.
I still don't understand why some are peed off with Nvidia with regards to this. Pascal cards still offer great performance in all the latest games and this won't change until next gen consoles arrive.
Sure the 2000 series are expensive but it's clear that this range is a test bed for the new architecture and prep for 7nm.
If you don't want to be an early adopter, enjoy Pascal performance and wait for the 7nm gen which will bring RTX to the mainstream at more affordable prices.
I imagine the 7nm range will see similar gains as we saw with Kepler < Maxwell.
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#5582947 Posted on: 09/10/2018 11:05 AM
The 1080 ti's will run out first, since far less manufactured than the more mainstream 1070s and 1080s. I think the overstock is mainly with the 1070s. The 1080ti's have been between $630-650 a few weeks ago but have now gone back up in price ($50-100), which I think reflects the supply situation of that card.
The 1080 ti's will run out first, since far less manufactured than the more mainstream 1070s and 1080s. I think the overstock is mainly with the 1070s. The 1080ti's have been between $630-650 a few weeks ago but have now gone back up in price ($50-100), which I think reflects the supply situation of that card.
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#5582956 Posted on: 09/10/2018 12:05 PM
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#5582974 Posted on: 09/10/2018 01:06 PM
Oh lordy, I bet you were part of the focus group for BF V who thought it was a good idea to include more woman & disabled people rather than 'focussing' on making a better overall game with decent atmosphere and an ability to turn off the blurry TAA mess! Yes, yes, it's all your fault! ;-) Joke by the way, hadn't noticed she was a women, I am guilty of paying no attention to the name and instead assuming that vice president and chief financial officers sound like men!
I'm quite sure Colette is a woman.
Oh lordy, I bet you were part of the focus group for BF V who thought it was a good idea to include more woman & disabled people rather than 'focussing' on making a better overall game with decent atmosphere and an ability to turn off the blurry TAA mess! Yes, yes, it's all your fault! ;-) Joke by the way, hadn't noticed she was a women, I am guilty of paying no attention to the name and instead assuming that vice president and chief financial officers sound like men!
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#5583060 Posted on: 09/10/2018 04:27 PM
Supply and demand. No buyers => prices drop or nV goes out of business while keeping prices high.
Don't blame bad guy for doing damage when "victims" ask him to do harm.
unfortunately it's not so simple. Nvidia has gotten fat off of the auto, deep learning/AI, and big data industries.
there aren't enough AIB sales to actually force them into a market based price correction.
otherwise i agree with you.
Supply and demand. No buyers => prices drop or nV goes out of business while keeping prices high.
Don't blame bad guy for doing damage when "victims" ask him to do harm.
unfortunately it's not so simple. Nvidia has gotten fat off of the auto, deep learning/AI, and big data industries.
there aren't enough AIB sales to actually force them into a market based price correction.
otherwise i agree with you.
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#5583069 Posted on: 09/10/2018 04:38 PM
Yet
At least Nvidia didn't do AMDs and rebrand old Pascals to cover the mainstream and entry levels of the 2000 series.
Yet
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#5583091 Posted on: 09/10/2018 05:33 PM
The RTX cards seem more and more like a stopgap until Nvidia can move to the next node...
The RTX cards seem more and more like a stopgap until Nvidia can move to the next node...
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Smells like "excess" inventory and lack of competition in the market...Keep paying full price for 3 year old tech!