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So word out on the street is that the new NAVI cards might be named Radeon RX 3080. Guess what NVIDIA did when they learned about that, they filed a trademark on these 'numbers'. Of course, Nvidia's last two GPU series were named GTX 1080 (Ti) and RTX 2080 (Ti) and yes that could stir up some confusion on brand naming.
NVIDIA now has requested trademarks for "3080", "4080" and "5080". You can read about it on EUIPO (European Union Intellectual Property Office) where the claim has been filed, let me also reiterate that the trademarks have not been granted just. And quite honestly, I doubt you can trademark numbers.
We'll update once we learn more about this ruling.
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#5673357 Posted on: 05/26/2019 09:10 PM
That's weird:
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=72350803&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
Here is 747 Trademarked by Boeing. I guess 747 isn't a number?
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=75439039&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
Here is the number 1 trademarked by Dale Earnhardt. Who knew the Number 1 wasn't a number?
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=74597692&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch - 33 is trademarked
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=73788555&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch - 5 is trademarked
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=73768165&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch - 501 is trademarked
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=75717545&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch - 8675309 is trademarked
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=72172718&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch - 31 is trademarked
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=73127572&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch - 57 is trademarked
You can definitely trademark numbers.
Not sure how far that applies. Understandable if it were to prevent another plane manufacturer from using 747, but what about non-related products? What if a beer or a car or GPU were to use that number?
That's weird:
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=72350803&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
Here is 747 Trademarked by Boeing. I guess 747 isn't a number?
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=75439039&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
Here is the number 1 trademarked by Dale Earnhardt. Who knew the Number 1 wasn't a number?
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=74597692&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch - 33 is trademarked
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=73788555&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch - 5 is trademarked
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=73768165&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch - 501 is trademarked
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=75717545&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch - 8675309 is trademarked
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=72172718&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch - 31 is trademarked
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=73127572&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch - 57 is trademarked
You can definitely trademark numbers.
Not sure how far that applies. Understandable if it were to prevent another plane manufacturer from using 747, but what about non-related products? What if a beer or a car or GPU were to use that number?
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#5673360 Posted on: 05/26/2019 09:24 PM
Not sure how far that applies. Understandable if it were to prevent another plane manufacturer from using 747, but what about non-related products? What if a beer or a car or GPU were to use that number?
Why would it lead to a lot of trouble? When you trademark a generic term/word it protects competing companies from using it - it doesn't prevent everyone from using it. Boeing trademarked 747 - its not like no other company can use 747. Apple owns "Apple" - probably one of the most common words in the english language yet there is no problem with other companies like Scholastic for example using the word Apple in their own products. In fact both companies own the trademark for the word "Apple".
If Nvidia is granted 3080/4080/5080 (I don't think they will be but it's definitely possible) it's not like it takes those numbers off the table for everyone else. It just prevents companies selling similar products to Nvidia, in this case AMD, from producing products with those numbers. Which IMO is fine. I've not seen a single good reason why AMD should name their GPUs with the exact same number scheme as Nvidia. The best argument is that it matches their processor branding - in which case let them name it RX 3700 or something. There is no reason for them to use 30X0/40X0 other then to purposely confuse customers.
Not sure how far that applies. Understandable if it were to prevent another plane manufacturer from using 747, but what about non-related products? What if a beer or a car or GPU were to use that number?
Why would it lead to a lot of trouble? When you trademark a generic term/word it protects competing companies from using it - it doesn't prevent everyone from using it. Boeing trademarked 747 - its not like no other company can use 747. Apple owns "Apple" - probably one of the most common words in the english language yet there is no problem with other companies like Scholastic for example using the word Apple in their own products. In fact both companies own the trademark for the word "Apple".
If Nvidia is granted 3080/4080/5080 (I don't think they will be but it's definitely possible) it's not like it takes those numbers off the table for everyone else. It just prevents companies selling similar products to Nvidia, in this case AMD, from producing products with those numbers. Which IMO is fine. I've not seen a single good reason why AMD should name their GPUs with the exact same number scheme as Nvidia. The best argument is that it matches their processor branding - in which case let them name it RX 3700 or something. There is no reason for them to use 30X0/40X0 other then to purposely confuse customers.
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#5673361 Posted on: 05/26/2019 09:28 PM
Fine. AMD can name their GPU the RX 3085 :p
Fine. AMD can name their GPU the RX 3085 :p
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#5673367 Posted on: 05/26/2019 09:50 PM
Trademarks are given in specific areas of application. AFAIK, they are not blanket in nature, across all possible uses.
Trademarks are given in specific areas of application. AFAIK, they are not blanket in nature, across all possible uses.
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That's weird:
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=72350803&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
Here is 747 Trademarked by Boeing. I guess 747 isn't a number?
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=75439039&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
Here is the number 1 trademarked by Dale Earnhardt. Who knew the Number 1 wasn't a number?
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=74597692&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch - 33 is trademarked
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=73788555&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch - 5 is trademarked
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=73768165&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch - 501 is trademarked
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=75717545&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch - 8675309 is trademarked
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=72172718&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch - 31 is trademarked
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=73127572&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch - 57 is trademarked
You can definitely trademark numbers.